How to deal with Deposits May 1st if you are still on a waitlist elsewhere?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

This is what I was coming to post. Every student who uses the Common App agrees to this, so yes, double depositing is unethical.

[Anonymous]

I guess. Although there is a mechanism for consequences for doing so and they are choosing to take that risk. I’m on the fence if that is unethical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

This is what I was coming to post. Every student who uses the Common App agrees to this, so yes, double depositing is unethical.

The fact we constantly have to "debate" that fact shows how unethical so many people are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

As an attorney, I can tell you that this is irrelevant. None of that Common App bs would hold in court.

[Anonymous]

“ In the anti-trust case of United States vs Brown University, it was determined that the Ivy League colleges actually shared info about applying students. They were legally forced to stop this practice. But this hasn't stopped colleges from their on-going practice of intimidating students. That's because intimidation doesn't mean violation of the law, just an obnoxious violation of a student's peace of mind.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

As an attorney, I can tell you that this is irrelevant. None of that Common App bs would hold in court.

Correct, as a legal matter.

As an ethical matter, not so much.

[Anonymous]

It is 'ethical' to give 2 weeks notice but that does not always mean it is smart.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

As an attorney, I can tell you that this is irrelevant. None of that Common App bs would hold in court.

Correct, as a legal matter.

As an ethical matter, not so much.

I dont get all of the “not ethical” BS in defense of colleges. If u want to defend other students on waitlists, fine. But colleges created this problem. I dont feel sorry for them that kids double deposit.

Is ethical for Colleges to build a waitlist of 7000 kids????? When they typically take 50?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

As an attorney, I can tell you that this is irrelevant. None of that Common App bs would hold in court.

Correct, as a legal matter.

As an ethical matter, not so much.

I dont get all of the “not ethical” BS in defense of colleges. If u want to defend other students on waitlists, fine. But colleges created this problem. I dont feel sorry for them that kids double deposit.

Is ethical for Colleges to build a waitlist of 7000 kids????? When they typically take 50?

What college has 7000 waitlist

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

As an attorney, I can tell you that this is irrelevant. None of that Common App bs would hold in court.

Correct, as a legal matter.

As an ethical matter, not so much.

I dont get all of the “not ethical” BS in defense of colleges. If u want to defend other students on waitlists, fine. But colleges created this problem. I dont feel sorry for them that kids double deposit.

Is ethical for Colleges to build a waitlist of 7000 kids????? When they typically take 50?

What college has 7000 waitlist

DP. Lots of them. Then about half opt-in to stay on the waitlist. There are reasons.

Michigan's waitlist last year - after three fourths opted in - was >18k, LOL, though they did end up take nearly 1000.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

Thank you! I have a junior so not into the application process far enough yet and just kept wondering. Seems pretty definitive as written.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

Thank you! I have a junior so not into the application process far enough yet and just kept wondering. Seems pretty definitive as written.

Not definitive. Do not buy whatever the Common App, Universities or their Counselors tell you…… This is illegal and any state court in the US would agree with me. Show me one precedence of them removing someone’s admission due to double depositing. You are not going to find any, do you know why? Because schools know they could never win this argument in the court of law. It is that simple.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

Thank you! I have a junior so not into the application process far enough yet and just kept wondering. Seems pretty definitive as written.

Not definitive. Do not buy whatever the Common App, Universities or their Counselors tell you…… This is illegal and any state court in the US would agree with me. Show me one precedence of them removing someone’s admission due to double depositing. You are not going to find any, do you know why? Because schools know they could never win this argument in the court of law. It is that simple.

Why is it illegal? Isn’t it essentially a contract with offer, acceptance, and consideration (deposit)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are always talking about ethics here. This is not a big deal. You should see the people who submit 2 deposits to postpone their decision until the summer. Happens all the time. We know of at least a dozen people that have done this in our district in Va.

Same here. Nobody on DCUM is going to admit to doing this. But we also know several people who have double deposited in the past and we know several that double deposited this year already. All in the name of waiting another 30-60 days to decide.

Why would they already have double deposited? You still have a full month to decide!

They might break up with their bf/gf, a new tik tok may make one cooler in June, and similar quality logic I presume.

LOL. This is so true. My daughter 2 years ago had a plus and minus chart and decided by April 5. My son this year is on straight vibes.