How to deal with Deposits May 1st if you are still on a waitlist elsewhere?

[Anonymous]

Hate to admit it, but my daughter double deposited last year at 2 ivies.

She was waiting on communication back from the 2 schools whether they would grant her a gap year request. One said yes, the other no because the request was too late. In the end she finally selected the one who did on May 25th and let the other one know she decided not to attend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP is weirdly howyile and controlling. Her Kid WILL be taking more than 30 days to decide.

ok lady. I guess you speak for your 18 year old. not how it works in my family but good for you.

I dont speak for my 17 year old. My 17 yr old TOLD ME he will need more than 30 days. I’m just relaying the information. Stop the condescending comments.

That's nice. I'll tell my 17 year old to enjoy paying the second deposit himself. Yours sounds extremely out of touch and entitled. Just one MORE reason to stay away from Ivies! If anyone ever needed a reason they should just read these threads!

What a bunch of BS. You are either mad DC didnt get in or waitlisted. Don’t take it out on me.
I will be spending $400k on an Ivy degree, do you think I care about $1000 deposit? The defense of universities here is just absurd. Bunch of sheep followers here.

Guess what happens to sheep that stray.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We paid for top choice ($900) May 1st. Then, got off an Ivy (first choice) WL, within days of submitting that deposit- of course.

Oh well. You need to have something locked down by the deadline. There is a real chance you might not get off any WLs.

This is completely fine. It's what you have to do. That is not considered a double deposit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still have yet to see any written, contractual language that would deem a double deposit improper or unethical. If it exists, please provide it! And I don’t mean an opinion from a college consultant, I mean something binding that means you are only permitted to make one deposit.

There is the following term that the student explicitly agrees to when they sign the Common app
https://www.commonapp.org/application-affirmations:

"I affirm that I will send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to only one institution; sending multiple deposits (or equivalent) may result in the withdrawal of my admission offers from all institutions. [Note: students may send an enrollment deposit (or equivalent) to a second institution where they have been admitted from the waitlist, provided that they inform the first institution that they will no longer be enrolling.]"

This is what I was coming to post. Every student who uses the Common App agrees to this, so yes, double depositing is unethical.

+1 and our college counselors specifically reminds students of this. Unless you are on a WL and tell them, they send your transcript to the school you tell them you accepted and deposited. They will only send a second transcript if it is to a WL school that accepted you later. They take ethics VERY seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hate to admit it, but my daughter double deposited last year at 2 ivies.

She was waiting on communication back from the 2 schools whether they would grant her a gap year request. One said yes, the other no because the request was too late. In the end she finally selected the one who did on May 25th and let the other one know she decided not to attend.

What high school allowed this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:HS Counselors and consultants have an obligation to scare you when it comes to double depositing…..but the reality is that it is NOT illegal. And IF a university dares to rescind admission to a student who double deposited they would be sued so fast that the amount of money they would spend on litigation would be the equivalent of giving away 100% merit awards to more than 100 kids…

From another website: “Andrew Flagel, former SVP for Students and Enrollment at Brandeis University, once suggested to his colleagues:

“I really like when the argument gets all fired up as a debate on ethics. It seems particularly charming that the same universities that are sending massively manipulative marketing materials (oh how I love alliteration) and providing entirely opaque information on scholarship and financial aid policies [that] they manipulate behind the scenes, then call students unethical for not being able to make up their minds by May 1…. I know I’ll catch a lot (A LOT) of flack for this, but it isn’t unethical, it’s a purchasing decision (let the flack begin!). You can place deposits on any number of items (say a car, just to draw the comparison most likely to inflame my colleagues) and decide NOT to make that purchase without being in the least unethical, can’t you?”

Exactly.

No, you signed a statement saying you would not do it. It is nothing like a car purchase.

Sounds like you'd both be awesome in the Trump administration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate to admit it, but my daughter double deposited last year at 2 ivies.

She was waiting on communication back from the 2 schools whether they would grant her a gap year request. One said yes, the other no because the request was too late. In the end she finally selected the one who did on May 25th and let the other one know she decided not to attend.

What high school allowed this?

I’m not PP but guessing the gap year request circumstances put this situation into a gray area. I don’t think I consider this double depositing. It sounds like the second school didn’t notify student until May 25th and when they did student made decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate to admit it, but my daughter double deposited last year at 2 ivies.

She was waiting on communication back from the 2 schools whether they would grant her a gap year request. One said yes, the other no because the request was too late. In the end she finally selected the one who did on May 25th and let the other one know she decided not to attend.

What high school allowed this?

it is none of your business is it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HS Counselors and consultants have an obligation to scare you when it comes to double depositing…..but the reality is that it is NOT illegal. And IF a university dares to rescind admission to a student who double deposited they would be sued so fast that the amount of money they would spend on litigation would be the equivalent of giving away 100% merit awards to more than 100 kids…

From another website: “Andrew Flagel, former SVP for Students and Enrollment at Brandeis University, once suggested to his colleagues:

“I really like when the argument gets all fired up as a debate on ethics. It seems particularly charming that the same universities that are sending massively manipulative marketing materials (oh how I love alliteration) and providing entirely opaque information on scholarship and financial aid policies [that] they manipulate behind the scenes, then call students unethical for not being able to make up their minds by May 1…. I know I’ll catch a lot (A LOT) of flack for this, but it isn’t unethical, it’s a purchasing decision (let the flack begin!). You can place deposits on any number of items (say a car, just to draw the comparison most likely to inflame my colleagues) and decide NOT to make that purchase without being in the least unethical, can’t you?”

Exactly.

No, you signed a statement saying you would not do it. It is nothing like a car purchase.

Sounds like you'd both be awesome in the Trump administration.

You signed a non-binding statement. A Letter of Intent. Nothing else. Stop defending universities. They are to blame for this ridiculous process.
Sorry but there is nothing LEGAL about the common app stmt.

There is NOTHING wrong with double depositing if you need another 30 days or so. I do draw the line on waiting until August. That is terrible.