Are heavy weights generally recommended?

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”. How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement.

Other than biceps curls, what are they and how much weight do you use when doing them?

Isolations are any movements that only work one muscle, so for example tricep extensions, leg extensions (for quads), leg curls (hamstrings); chest flies, rear delt flies etc. The weight really depends on the muscle and how many reps I am targeting. My reps are usually between 8 and 12 on isolation movements and I tend to go to failure. On free weight compounds (squats, bench, deadlifts) I rarely do more than 5 reps and usually leave 1-3 reps in the tank. If I can exceed the number of reps I target at a specific weight, I add weight. Heavy is relative to your strength and you should not compare yourself to others, just make sure you are pushing yourself and improving over time.

I can’t imagine a reason to train this way other than arthritis. Sorry to hear it, if so.

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”. How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement.

Other than biceps curls, what are they and how much weight do you use when doing them?

Isolations are any movements that only work one muscle, so for example tricep extensions, leg extensions (for quads), leg curls (hamstrings); chest flies, rear delt flies etc. The weight really depends on the muscle and how many reps I am targeting. My reps are usually between 8 and 12 on isolation movements and I tend to go to failure. On free weight compounds (squats, bench, deadlifts) I rarely do more than 5 reps and usually leave 1-3 reps in the tank. If I can exceed the number of reps I target at a specific weight, I add weight. Heavy is relative to your strength and you should not compare yourself to others, just make sure you are pushing yourself and improving over time.

I can’t imagine a reason to train this way other than arthritis. Sorry to hear it, if so.

Not that poster but what they outlined is the pretty typical approach to lifting. What do you do?

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”. How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement.

Other than biceps curls, what are they and how much weight do you use when doing them?

Isolations are any movements that only work one muscle, so for example tricep extensions, leg extensions (for quads), leg curls (hamstrings); chest flies, rear delt flies etc. The weight really depends on the muscle and how many reps I am targeting. My reps are usually between 8 and 12 on isolation movements and I tend to go to failure. On free weight compounds (squats, bench, deadlifts) I rarely do more than 5 reps and usually leave 1-3 reps in the tank. If I can exceed the number of reps I target at a specific weight, I add weight. Heavy is relative to your strength and you should not compare yourself to others, just make sure you are pushing yourself and improving over time.

I can’t imagine a reason to train this way other than arthritis. Sorry to hear it, if so.

Actually it prevents arthritis

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”. How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement.

Other than biceps curls, what are they and how much weight do you use when doing them?

Isolations are any movements that only work one muscle, so for example tricep extensions, leg extensions (for quads), leg curls (hamstrings); chest flies, rear delt flies etc. The weight really depends on the muscle and how many reps I am targeting. My reps are usually between 8 and 12 on isolation movements and I tend to go to failure. On free weight compounds (squats, bench, deadlifts) I rarely do more than 5 reps and usually leave 1-3 reps in the tank. If I can exceed the number of reps I target at a specific weight, I add weight. Heavy is relative to your strength and you should not compare yourself to others, just make sure you are pushing yourself and improving over time.

I can’t imagine a reason to train this way other than arthritis. Sorry to hear it, if so.

Well, tell me you know nothing about lifting without telling me. There was not even a mention of frequency, reps, sets etc to make any such conclusion. And yes, as PP mentioned this is pretty standard.

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Anonymous wrote:No. You need full range of motion with lighter weights.

This will do absolutely nothing for you. Literally nothing.

Haha so true.

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

So in the world of powerlifters, the term "heavy lifting" means...whatever you said. Fine. That doesn't mean that you can't do "heavy" isolation movements...and call them "heavy lifts" or whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”. How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement.

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

So in the world of powerlifters, the term "heavy lifting" means...whatever you said. Fine. That doesn't mean that you can't do "heavy" isolation movements...and call them "heavy lifts" or whatever.

It is not even true in the powerlifting world. Many power lifters now incorporate isolations too as the industry understood you can increase your strength on the big 3 by incorporating accessory movements, including isolations, as needed. They can be also helpful for preventing imbalances and injuries.

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”. How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement.

Other than biceps curls, what are they and how much weight do you use when doing them?

Isolations are any movements that only work one muscle, so for example tricep extensions, leg extensions (for quads), leg curls (hamstrings); chest flies, rear delt flies etc. The weight really depends on the muscle and how many reps I am targeting. My reps are usually between 8 and 12 on isolation movements and I tend to go to failure. On free weight compounds (squats, bench, deadlifts) I rarely do more than 5 reps and usually leave 1-3 reps in the tank. If I can exceed the number of reps I target at a specific weight, I add weight. Heavy is relative to your strength and you should not compare yourself to others, just make sure you are pushing yourself and improving over time.

I can’t imagine a reason to train this way other than arthritis. Sorry to hear it, if so.

Not that poster but what they outlined is the pretty typical approach to lifting. What do you do?

Squats, deadlifts, bench press, pull-ups, chin-ups, and push-ups. Really trying to push out one’s max on these requires more reps and more variations on patterns than PP described.

It is also way less time-consuming and more habilitative for the strength demands of everyday life than that “pretty typical approach.”

Bonus: way less boring to execute!

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

So in the world of powerlifters, the term "heavy lifting" means...whatever you said. Fine. That doesn't mean that you can't do "heavy" isolation movements...and call them "heavy lifts" or whatever.

It is not even true in the powerlifting world. Many power lifters now incorporate isolations too as the industry understood you can increase your strength on the big 3 by incorporating accessory movements, including isolations, as needed. They can be also helpful for preventing imbalances and injuries.

The fact that powerlifters do accessory movements does not mean that they are picturing those movements when they talk about “lifting heavy.”

All of that other stuff is true, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”. How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement.

Other than biceps curls, what are they and how much weight do you use when doing them?

Isolations are any movements that only work one muscle, so for example tricep extensions, leg extensions (for quads), leg curls (hamstrings); chest flies, rear delt flies etc. The weight really depends on the muscle and how many reps I am targeting. My reps are usually between 8 and 12 on isolation movements and I tend to go to failure. On free weight compounds (squats, bench, deadlifts) I rarely do more than 5 reps and usually leave 1-3 reps in the tank. If I can exceed the number of reps I target at a specific weight, I add weight. Heavy is relative to your strength and you should not compare yourself to others, just make sure you are pushing yourself and improving over time.

I can’t imagine a reason to train this way other than arthritis. Sorry to hear it, if so.

Not that poster but what they outlined is the pretty typical approach to lifting. What do you do?

Squats, deadlifts, bench press, pull-ups, chin-ups, and push-ups. Really trying to push out one’s max on these requires more reps and more variations on patterns than PP described.

It is also way less time-consuming and more habilitative for the strength demands of everyday life than that “pretty typical approach.”

Bonus: way less boring to execute!

JFC. I was trying to give a sense to someone who is an obvious beginner how they could approach their lifting. My own program has a lot of variety and periodization. My rep schemes change week to week but none of that is necessary for a beginner. I have been lifting for almost two decades and I am very strong (on all the movements you mentioned) and rarely injured, but please go on and keep patronizing me.

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”. How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement.

Other than biceps curls, what are they and how much weight do you use when doing them?

Isolations are any movements that only work one muscle, so for example tricep extensions, leg extensions (for quads), leg curls (hamstrings); chest flies, rear delt flies etc. The weight really depends on the muscle and how many reps I am targeting. My reps are usually between 8 and 12 on isolation movements and I tend to go to failure. On free weight compounds (squats, bench, deadlifts) I rarely do more than 5 reps and usually leave 1-3 reps in the tank. If I can exceed the number of reps I target at a specific weight, I add weight. Heavy is relative to your strength and you should not compare yourself to others, just make sure you are pushing yourself and improving over time.

I can’t imagine a reason to train this way other than arthritis. Sorry to hear it, if so.

Not that poster but what they outlined is the pretty typical approach to lifting. What do you do?

Squats, deadlifts, bench press, pull-ups, chin-ups, and push-ups. Really trying to push out one’s max on these requires more reps and more variations on patterns than PP described.

It is also way less time-consuming and more habilitative for the strength demands of everyday life than that “pretty typical approach.”

Bonus: way less boring to execute!

JFC. I was trying to give a sense to someone who is an obvious beginner how they could approach their lifting. My own program has a lot of variety and periodization. My rep schemes change week to week but none of that is necessary for a beginner. I have been lifting for almost two decades and I am very strong (on all the movements you mentioned) and rarely injured, but please go on and keep patronizing me.

Beginners quit for a lot of reasons, but one of them is that they are pretty typically encouraged to do way more individual isolation exercises, way more times, and with far lower weight than would be safe and productive for their strength development.

I'm not trying to patronize you. I suspect if we spoke in person we would agree more than we don't. Have a good one.

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”. How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement.

Other than biceps curls, what are they and how much weight do you use when doing them?

Isolations are any movements that only work one muscle, so for example tricep extensions, leg extensions (for quads), leg curls (hamstrings); chest flies, rear delt flies etc. The weight really depends on the muscle and how many reps I am targeting. My reps are usually between 8 and 12 on isolation movements and I tend to go to failure. On free weight compounds (squats, bench, deadlifts) I rarely do more than 5 reps and usually leave 1-3 reps in the tank. If I can exceed the number of reps I target at a specific weight, I add weight. Heavy is relative to your strength and you should not compare yourself to others, just make sure you are pushing yourself and improving over time.

I can’t imagine a reason to train this way other than arthritis. Sorry to hear it, if so.

Not that poster but what they outlined is the pretty typical approach to lifting. What do you do?

No clue what PP is talking about arthritis as this is a pretty traditional weight training routine. I do it all the time like this.

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Anonymous wrote:For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.

A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements.

I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it.

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around.

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”. How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement.

Other than biceps curls, what are they and how much weight do you use when doing them?

Isolations are any movements that only work one muscle, so for example tricep extensions, leg extensions (for quads), leg curls (hamstrings); chest flies, rear delt flies etc. The weight really depends on the muscle and how many reps I am targeting. My reps are usually between 8 and 12 on isolation movements and I tend to go to failure. On free weight compounds (squats, bench, deadlifts) I rarely do more than 5 reps and usually leave 1-3 reps in the tank. If I can exceed the number of reps I target at a specific weight, I add weight. Heavy is relative to your strength and you should not compare yourself to others, just make sure you are pushing yourself and improving over time.

I can’t imagine a reason to train this way other than arthritis. Sorry to hear it, if so.

Actually it prevents arthritis

I can attest to this. Training this way keeps my chronic pain at bay.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s been proven that lifting weights, any weights, but particularly heavier ones increase longevity and mobility as you age.

My mother and MIL are both in their early eighties. MIL has exercised via walking and jazzercise for most of her life but never lifted a weight over 5lbs. She still walks daily but struggles to carry a laundry basket or groceries up the stairs. My mother is even worse since she stopped working out at all years ago and never lifted weights. They’re both small women who cannot lift anything over a few pounds. My mother has osteoporosis and has shattered bones.

I don’t want to go out that way so I’m lifting heavy things as long as I can.

Genes also play a huge role.

My MIL loves to walk and do Jazzercise as well, she has never done any weights and the lady, almost 70, is strong like a rock.

My mother has never exercised but eats very healthy (fish, vegetables, fruits, no meat), takes daily vitamins and stays away from the sun and alcohol. She enjoys "house chores" and doesn't have any health issues. She might not be lifting anything over 5lbs but people say she looks younger than her age.