Are heavy weights generally recommended?

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Anonymous wrote:OP - What do you consider heavy weights?


Above 10 lbs for biceps probably, above 5-6 for shoulders and triceps. Heavier for squats.


That’s extremely low. Also you don’t need to do biceps isolation.
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Anonymous wrote:Middle-aged woman here – I work out typically six days a week, Including varying forms of vigorous aerobics, HIIT, and weight lifting…but always lighter weights with reps up to fatigue. Should I add a heavy weightlifting class?


Yes. You should be able to do unassisted pull-ups and chin-ups.

A good goal squat is your body weight (in addition to the weight of your body).

A good goal deadlift is 150% of your bodyweight.

You will be fatigued when done; fear not!

Good form is critical. A class may or may not give you that.


Also farmer's carry approx 80% of your weight. The amount decreases as you age but it's one indicator of longevity.



I'm sorry, but 150 lb. women are not walking around the gym with a 60 lb. dumbbell in each hand for any distance.


That’s the problem they aren’t but should be if they don’t want to a frail elderly woman.


I don’t think I have the grip strength for that even thought I could probably manage that weight for maybe 10 steps.
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Anonymous wrote:Middle-aged woman here – I work out typically six days a week, Including varying forms of vigorous aerobics, HIIT, and weight lifting…but always lighter weights with reps up to fatigue. Should I add a heavy weightlifting class?


Yes. You should be able to do unassisted pull-ups and chin-ups.

A good goal squat is your body weight (in addition to the weight of your body).

A good goal deadlift is 150% of your bodyweight.

You will be fatigued when done; fear not!

Good form is critical. A class may or may not give you that.


I would call all those “upper-limit goals” not “good” (which implies they’re easily within reach for everyone). A pull-up/chin-up is a very lofty goal for most women. I have been lifting heavy for 5 months and am still not even close to getting an unassisted chin-up/pull-up, and I am not overweight. I’m almost able to deadlift my body weight and can squat 70% of my body weight.

I love lifting, but it takes a long time to build that kind of muscle, especially at my age (late 40s), where I have to progress slowly as to not injure myself.


I am 50. It took me five years, in my 20s, to get to these goals; now I maintain them and occasionally build on one or another.

5 months is not a meaningful duration for measuring strength improvement; most of the progress in that time is neurological.


Are these your max out weights? As in you can do this for one rep? Because I ageee this seems like a lot lofty goal for most women. And not a good goal for someone starting in their 40s unless they’re with a private trainer enforcing good form.


I started in my early 30s completely out of shape. I am now 43 and can deadlift 2x my body weight, squat 1.5x my BW and bench my body weight. I can also do 7-10 chin-ups or pull ups and would have no problem walking around with 60s in my hands at 150lbs. And no, I don’t live in the gym. I have a full time job and a kid. Those goals that were mentioned are not lofty at all. They should be easily achievable for a female who regularly works out following a program with progressive overload.


I mean... these are "easily achievable" in the sense that with regular effort, many women can get there. But for someone who has not lifted at all, it's going to take years to get there. That's not what most people think of when they hear the word "easily."


I don’t think it takes years to get there. I am 49 and working with a great trainer monthly went from zero deadlift to about 90lbs in less than a year. If I had been seeing her weekly and was more focused on deadlifting more, I probably could have gotten to at least 1.5x my body weight within the year.
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Yes, age 64 woman

Lifting heavy also allows me to eat more
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