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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For those that say “lift heavy,” what would a heavy bicep workout weight be.[/quote]

[b]A bicep-specific exercise is not really part of “lifting heavy.” “Lifting heavy” means compound, multi-muscle movements. 
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I do chins and pulls; once in a while I throw in biceps curls for variety. I can curl 25 lbs and that’s about it. [/quote]

Says who? You? That's a dumb take and totally untrue.[/quote]

Me and Olympic and powerlifters, but you do you. That's what makes the world go around. [/quote]

I train in a powerlifting style, though I do not compete, and [b]I still consider heavy isolation movements “lifting heavy”.[/b] How many muscles are involved is irrelevant. The point is that you are doing something challenging for that specific muscle or movement. [/quote]

Other than biceps curls, what are they and how much weight do you use when doing them?[/quote]

Isolations are any movements that only work one muscle, so for example tricep extensions, leg extensions (for quads), leg curls (hamstrings); chest flies, rear delt flies etc. The weight really depends on the muscle and how many reps I am targeting. My reps are usually between 8 and 12 on isolation movements and I tend to go to failure. On free weight compounds (squats, bench, deadlifts) I rarely do more than 5 reps and usually leave 1-3 reps in the tank. If I can exceed the number of reps I target at a specific weight, I add weight.  Heavy is relative to your strength and you should not compare yourself to others, just make sure you are pushing yourself and improving over time. [/quote]

I can’t imagine a reason to train this way other than arthritis. Sorry to hear it, if so.[/quote]
Not that poster but what they outlined is the pretty typical approach to lifting. What do you do?[/quote]

Squats, deadlifts, bench press, pull-ups, chin-ups, and push-ups. Really trying to push out one’s max on these requires more reps and more variations on patterns than PP described.

It is also way less time-consuming and more habilitative for the strength demands of everyday life than that “pretty typical approach.”

Bonus: way less boring to execute![/quote]

JFC. I was trying to give a sense to someone who is an obvious beginner how they could approach their lifting. My own program has a lot of variety and periodization. My rep schemes change week to week but [b]none of that is necessary for a beginner.[/b] I have been lifting for almost two decades and I am very strong (on all the movements you mentioned) and rarely injured, but please go on and keep patronizing me. [/quote]

Beginners quit for a lot of reasons, but one of them is that they are pretty typically encouraged to do way more individual isolation exercises, way more times, and with far lower weight than would be safe and productive for their strength development.

I'm not trying to patronize you. I suspect if we spoke in person we would agree more than we don't. Have a good one.[/quote]

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