One of the groups that debated with Paul on the streets of Athens was Epicurean (Acts 17:18) Epicurus thought gods did exist, but they lived so far away from the world of mankind. Epicurus was a classical Greek philosopher (341 BCE), and his arguments are not focused towards Christians, because he predates the Jewish based religions which conquered the Roman Empire after 300 CE under the Byzantine Emperor Constantine the Great. Here are six (6) responses to the Epicurean paradox. https://www.pharosjot.com/uploads/7/1/6/3/7163688/article_25_vol_99_2018_-_philippines.pdf |
Again you do not answer the questions, and respond with strawmen. The fact that Epicurus predates christianity is evidence against christianity because the questions still exist. A quick glance at that document indicates its assertion and reliance on faith-based ignorance in the abstract paragraph. It basically ignores the questions and says "nahhh.. god is good" using biblical quotes without addressing the problem of evil in any way. Just like you and everyone else. |
Atheists aren’t basing their criticism in Christian theology. They are basing it on inaccurate interpretations and personal opinions. God in Christianity does not give babies cancer to punish them. God created man to be His companion. Man wanted to be like God and disobeyed God, and man introduced sin into the world. If you don’t like it, that’s your choice, but that is what Christians believe. Making up personal fan fiction about God and Christianity proves nothing except you are too busy making up stories to learn about Christianity. You can criticize Christianity everyday all day long, but nowhere does the Bible or God state that cancer is given to babies by God to punish them and cause their death. |
Everyone agrees the bible doesn't say god gives babies cancer - although it says he does lots of other really horrible stuff like killing a bunch of kids with a bear because they called a guy baldy, and drowning nearly everyone on the planet, men women and children. Please address Epicurus' and other's question of evil. |
Again, it's much more commonly Christians who claim God is punishing people for sin. Claiming this is something atheists commonly do (because you read one mocking post on DCUM?) Isn't accurate. |
you read, critiqued, and dismissed every point in the linked article in 5 minutes? lol, ok. Q. Did God create evil? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/did-God-create-evil.html Q. Why does God allow evil? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/God-allow-evil.html Q. Did God create sin? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/did-God-create-sin.html Q. How can I believe in the goodness of God when there is so much evil in the world? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/goodness-of-God.html Q. Why does God create people when He knows they are going to go to hell? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/God-create-doomed-people.html Q. Does God make mistakes? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/does-God-make-mistakes.html This site will answer any questions you have about the Christian God. I do not write fan fiction about the Christian God. The Christian God has an entire book we can read and refer to. You are making up stories that fit your personal beliefs (which are fine for you, but not necessarily accurate to Christianity nor are they pertinent to the beliefs of others) and asking Christians to explain Christianity and God to you…there is literally a site that lays everything out in black and white. |
I could give a fat shit about Epicurus. If you like him and his philosophy and writings, that is wonderful. I am so glad he makes sense to you. Q. Is God evil? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/is-God-evil.html |
No, which is why I typed "quick glance at that document indicates its assertion and reliance on faith-based ignorance in the abstract paragraph". We can't have a discussion if you won't read my responses.
It seems like everything you post uses the same defense which is "no god is great the bible says so" without actually addressing the problem of evil. But I can't know what YOU think or believe because you won't answer specifically. |
I mean there's literally a Psalm that says "happy are they that seize their infants and dash them against rocks".
The Bible is pretty violent. |
Try a search on this topic. It's been here before.
My take? I don't care what you believe or practice as long as it doesn't harm anyone (including through restriction of freedoms, such as the FLDS) and you don't bring it to my doorstep. |
Yes, my very weird neighbor is always trying to get me to go to church. No, thanks. She never shuts about it. We just avoid her now. |
There are enough people that leave and join churches, coming and going. Why are atheists so convinced that people won’t see a church for what it is? That they’ll be exploited. Most intelligent people can see. Unintelligent people will be exploited by anything, let alone a church. |
What you mean is you don't give a $%$%# about the question. I get it, because there is no logical answer. If there was you would provide it. As for your link, you need only read past the paragraph that asserts the people of Sodom deserved what god did to them: The claim that those God punished were “uniformly blameless” is completely without merit and historically inaccurate. The Bible records the exact opposite about the peoples whom God acted upon in judgment. A few examples include: “After the LORD your God has driven them out before you, do not say to yourself, ‘The LORD has brought me here to take possession of this land because of my righteousness.’ No, it is on account of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD is going to drive them out before you. It is not because of your righteousness or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land; but on account of the wickedness of these nations, the LORD your God will drive them out before you, to accomplish what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” (Deuteronomy 9:4-5, emphasis added). Those are words from YOUR link, and not only do they not address the problem of evil, they pinpoint illustrate the need for the question, because this behavior attributed to god is objectively evil. |
Maybe because the atheists are simply stating facts. |
I do and I believed them for a long time, because I was taught them by reputable adults and it seemed like everyone believed them. |