Consensus world view of TOP 5/6 UK University Rankings (Prestige/Research)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP: It was wrong to exclude LSE from your list.

OP did mention LSE and made it clear it belonged in his list. I think he excluded since it is a narrowed focus school…

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Anonymous wrote:American parent here. So happy for our two kids that we found out about these schools early on. Both of my kids were decent students with good grades (1420 -1460 SATs and right at 3.75 UW) but not much in ECs. No luck with t25. We are CA, so it was tough at UCs. Their options were expensive private schools in the t-50/t-80 range or OOS publics with tuition costs that were almost as high….

They both went to the UK. My daughter to Exeter (Marine Sciences) and is now at UCSD working on her graduate degree/research.
My son went to Bristol (Civil Eng) and is now at Imperial doing his masters.

We saved a TON of money here and they received an amazing education.

I think the $$$ savings are going away...at least at Oxbridge.

The new international tuition at Oxford is between 35,000 - 59,000 pounds, so $43,260 - $72,924. This is tuition only.

The high number is for Medicine, etc.

Econ is 41k Pounds….Savings are not going away when compared to full private tuition for 4 years in the US…..

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Anonymous wrote:Oxford and Cambridge - everyone knows them. Someone tells me they went there and I think =s our tip 3 Ivies.

Never heard of any of the others and I doubt many Americans have either.

this is like the DCUMers who have never heard of Williams. Whatever! This is about you, not the real world

Maybe. But I doubt it.
I’ve heard of Williams - of course - and work with a mix of international people too. And if even I have never heard of these other spots I feel quite confident your normal hiring staff person has also not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From an international perspective:

Oxford/Cambridge ~ Harvard/MIT/Stanford -> True global recognition and importance

Imperial/UCL/LSE ~ Princeton/Caltech/Duke/Columbia/Yale/Wharton -> Very influential and popular but can be hit or miss on recognition

Edinburgh/King's ~ Lower Ivies/Northwestern/Johns Hopkins/UChicago -> Known in elite circles but general public will struggle

That being said, the US schools are generally more selective, and for purposes of working in the US, any US T10 should get picked over Oxbridge

In line with my international experience as well, although Caltech is very hit or miss, but the ones who know it hold it in highest regard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:American parent here. So happy for our two kids that we found out about these schools early on. Both of my kids were decent students with good grades (1420 -1460 SATs and right at 3.75 UW) but not much in ECs. No luck with t25. We are CA, so it was tough at UCs. Their options were expensive private schools in the t-50/t-80 range or OOS publics with tuition costs that were almost as high….

They both went to the UK. My daughter to Exeter (Marine Sciences) and is now at UCSD working on her graduate degree/research.
My son went to Bristol (Civil Eng) and is now at Imperial doing his masters.

We saved a TON of money here and they received an amazing education.

This is interesting. DCUM is so focused on Oxbridge and Ivy’s. For those students like your kids and thousands of others hanging around t30 to t-75, this looks like it makes a lot of sense. Especially if you have an independent kid.

My niece just graduated from Edinburgh and is now working at Mckinsey in the US. She was in a similar situation as your kids. Good student, but didnt get in t25 schools. She had offers from St Andrews, Exeter, Kings and Edinburgh and went to Edinburgh and graduated with a first.

The truth is, she would ‘ve never had the opportunity to start her career at McKinsey from any of the t50 schools she was accepted to as they just dont recruit there…….like a PP said, those who matter, know these schools.

[Anonymous]

If you look at the list of UK schools where McKinsey recruits from (active on campus recruiting) it matches well with the above list:

Oxbridge
Imperial
LSE
UCL
Edinburgh
Warwick
Durham
St Andrews

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The above is for Undergraduate recruiting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:American parent here. So happy for our two kids that we found out about these schools early on. Both of my kids were decent students with good grades (1420 -1460 SATs and right at 3.75 UW) but not much in ECs. No luck with t25. We are CA, so it was tough at UCs. Their options were expensive private schools in the t-50/t-80 range or OOS publics with tuition costs that were almost as high….

They both went to the UK. My daughter to Exeter (Marine Sciences) and is now at UCSD working on her graduate degree/research.
My son went to Bristol (Civil Eng) and is now at Imperial doing his masters.

We saved a TON of money here and they received an amazing education.

I think the $$$ savings are going away...at least at Oxbridge.

The new international tuition at Oxford is between 35,000 - 59,000 pounds, so $43,260 - $72,924. This is tuition only.

The high number is for Medicine, etc.

Econ is 41k Pounds….Savings are not going away when compared to full private tuition for 4 years in the US…..

That’s still like double what it was just a year or two ago and that’s just tuition. Tack on living expenses and travel and it’s up there. Obviously no financial aid available.

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Ok, say room and board is about 10k per yr. That is 30k plus 123k =153k . Say $188k total.

Tell me a university in the US where u can get better than or an equivalent to an Oxford degree in Economics for $188k including room and board?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, say room and board is about 10k per yr. That is 30k plus 123k =153k . Say $188k total.

Tell me a university in the US where u can get better than or an equivalent to an Oxford degree in Economics for $188k including room and board?

That would be $47k per yr for a US school including room and board. Basically $35kin tuition would be the equivalent.

There is no equivalent …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, say room and board is about 10k per yr. That is 30k plus 123k =153k . Say $188k total.

Tell me a university in the US where u can get better than or an equivalent to an Oxford degree in Economics for $188k including room and board?

Berkeley in-state. But that’s about it.

[Anonymous]

Is room and board in the UK really only 10k per year? Doesn't seem realistic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is room and board in the UK really only 10k per year? Doesn't seem realistic.

7.5k GBP? No way in London

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is room and board in the UK really only 10k per year? Doesn't seem realistic.

PP is saying 10k Pounds…..he converted the 153 pounds to 188 dollars…please..pay attention

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is room and board in the UK really only 10k per year? Doesn't seem realistic.

7.5k GBP? No way in London

Again…PP said 10k pounds…..and in case you didnt know…Oxford is NOT in London….