And JD Vance and former AG Bill Bar are likewise cafeteria Catholics. But I suggest that Biden is a better human being than either Vance or Barr, even if you disagree with Biden on abortion. |
You mean the MAGA Catholics and the right wing evangelicals. |
Today's version of the John Birch Society. |
+1 |
Latin is the normative liturgical language of the Roman (aka Latin Rite) Catholic Church. Vatican II called for priests to be “very well trained” in Latin and for the use of Latin to be preserved in the liturgy. |
Have you ever met a member of Opus Dei? Attended one of their liturgies or events? Consulted one of their priests? Read any of their publications? You genuinely don’t know what you’re talking about. |
I can't stand the Catholic Church and I can't stand vance. |
Not PP: But yes I have, and they are cuckoo. |
Yes because he's educated and is able to think for himself and not listen to every controlling lie the church feeds its parishioners. You are the VERY definition of an idiot |
But the Latin Mass is really only relevant to the 80yo+ crowd. It's not a part of the tradition for any GenXer or younger. |
You call people names, you suck. |
Simply untrue. First, Latin is the normative/authoritative language not only of the Missal of Paul V (the “Vetus Ordo” or “Old Mass”), but also of the Missal of Paul V (the “Novus Ordo” or “New Mass” of Vatican II). Second, even if one is discussing the Vetus Ordo there are many people far younger than 80 who were raised in that tradition. Third, as noted, Vatican II called for Latin to be preserved, not eradicated, and the Novus Ordo is frequently celebrated in Latin, including by the Popes, when universality of language is desired. Accordingly, whether or not one prefers Latin as a liturgical language is a political irrelevancy. |
Pejorative epithets may be the safe harbor of the intellectually deficient, but they hardly explain the purported defects in the beliefs and practices of Opus Dei adherents. |
Dude, I am a graduate of one of the top SLACs in this country and have two advanced degrees from an Ivy League institution. I am more than intellectually sufficient and I call it like I see it. |
We found the weirdo rightwing convert. |