UVA vs Ga Tech Engineering

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who thing UVA > GA Tech are UVA students or their parents…

The only people that act like this are parents whose kids didn't get in. Ridiculous. Engineering is hard at any school and respected.

We are oos for both VA and GA. I know several eng/cs major kids from a magnet program. They all applied to GA Tech but not UVA. That was not even on their radar. Some even applied to VA Tech, but not UVA.

And. yet, my Aerospace Engineering kid applied to GT, Purdue, and UVA. Got into all three. Picked UVA and was taught by a woman astronaut. She decided after Calc 3 that engineering wasn't for her - not surprising since 80% of all grads change their majors at least once. She moved towards UVA electives she had enjoyed in econ and poli sci and wound up a PPL (politics, pholosophy & law) major. She's now on full scholarship at Oxford and applying to T8 law schools. We joke often "Thank heavens she didn't pick GT" because you don't go there for poli sci. UVA is more prestigious and a better chance for that 80% who may change majors.

I don't consider UVA more prestigious than Georgia Tech. It does have greater balance in majors.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who thing UVA > GA Tech are UVA students or their parents…

The only people that act like this are parents whose kids didn't get in. Ridiculous. Engineering is hard at any school and respected.

We are oos for both VA and GA. I know several eng/cs major kids from a magnet program. They all applied to GA Tech but not UVA. That was not even on their radar. Some even applied to VA Tech, but not UVA.

And. yet, my Aerospace Engineering kid applied to GT, Purdue, and UVA. Got into all three. Picked UVA and was taught by a woman astronaut. She decided after Calc 3 that engineering wasn't for her - not surprising since 80% of all grads change their majors at least once. She moved towards UVA electives she had enjoyed in econ and poli sci and wound up a PPL (politics, pholosophy & law) major. She's now on full scholarship at Oxford and applying to T8 law schools. We joke often "Thank heavens she didn't pick GT" because you don't go there for poli sci. UVA is more prestigious and a better chance for that 80% who may change majors.

No one's arguing that Political Science isn't better at UVA. Georgia Tech wouldn't have been a good fit for this student. But I'm pretty sure 80 percent of Georgia Tech students don't change their major. Most people applying to Georgia Tech know exactly want they want to do. Engineering is totally not a good major for students who are still dabbling with what they want to do. If they drop the major, it's usually freshman year when they are overwhelmed by how difficult it can be.

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Anonymous wrote:To the one who said UVA is more prestigious, absolutely not in engineering.

GT is like Ivy League of engineering. UVA is not known for engineering. Indeed, Virginia Tech would be higher status than UVA in engineering.

This isn't how undergrad prestige works, that's why grad schools have subject rankings and undergrad has overall rankings. UVa is simply more prestigious for undergrad...

Undergrad engineering is not like other major/subject areas, which is why they are generally in separate school. They don’t have broad liberal arts requirements - like foreign language, English, philosophy, etc. It’s why engineering programs are different from typical university rankings.

DC is in an engineering program and his courses requirements only included one humanities course. The rest were math, chemistry, computer and physics courses. DC was shocked they didn’t even have to take an English class and happy about skipping a foreign language.

A top 25 school has the same outcomes as T10 engineering schools, that's why I posted the salaries. It has little to do with location because Emory CS grads also make more than GT CS grads. The difference is prestige, the reason GT grads can't get jobs outside the south is because the degree isn't as portable as a UVA or Emory degree. They're more likely to be stuck in the south with lower salaries. This isn't new information. If UVA costs less then it's the obvious choice, if they cost the same it's still the obvious choice.

You are delusional with your UVA boosterism and clearly unfamiliar with engineering. While it is true that on paper most ABET certified engineering schools appear similar, the best schools have much stronger students that allow for a deeper and more comprehensive understanding of the topic. And Georgia Tech gets some of the best engineering students in the country. It as a perennial top 5 program. And there is no comparison with UVA. Even in Virginia, the top STEM students don't go to UVA. And trust me, any West Coast company hiring engineers is going to be far more impressed with a degree from Georgia Tech than one from UVA. This isn't 1980 anymore.

Exactly.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering

#1 GA Tech
#14 UMD
#22 VA Tech
#24 UVA

I stated up thread, I know several magnet students who are majoring in Eng/CS who applied to GATech, UMD, and some even VATech. No one applied to UVA.

There is no adjustment for size (# of engineering graduates) in that ranking. MIT is ranked 23, which is between VT and UVA. MIT is obviously considered better, but it is much smaller. It has 4,500 undergraduates with about 30% majoring in Engineering. VT has 30,000 undergraduates with 24% majoring in engineering. So VT has 5.3X as many engineering graduates.

Yes exactly, and why do you think VATech has so many more eng graduates than UVA? Because VAtech has a stronger program so more Eng majors apply to VAtech.

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Anonymous wrote:To the one who said UVA is more prestigious, absolutely not in engineering.

GT is like Ivy League of engineering. UVA is not known for engineering. Indeed, Virginia Tech would be higher status than UVA in engineering.

This isn't how undergrad prestige works, that's why grad schools have subject rankings and undergrad has overall rankings. UVa is simply more prestigious for undergrad...

And yet, look how many folks on this board who know engineering were like absolutely GT without a question. If you care about prestige in your neighborhood, sure, maybe UVA. If you care about prestige in the field your child is entering, there is just no comparison. GT is one of the top schools and EVERY engineering firm knows it. GT is way way way way more prestigious in engineering. You should understand that in engineering, it's like not far behind MIT. So it's just not true that UVA is "simply more prestigious."

Before my kid went into engineering I thought Georgia Tech was a good-ish school but I wouldn't have known the difference between Georgia Tech and UGA. Now I find that crazy that I didn't know that Georgia Tech is truly in top 5 reputation in country for engineering. The prestige is through the roof. Including for undergrad graduates.

Completely agree with this. My boyfriend in HS got in to both Georgia Tech and MIT for Aerospace. He picked Georgia Tech and loved that it had D1 sports and better weather.

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I’m a Virginia Tech engineering graduate from years ago, having spent nearly 7 years there.

First of all, Georgia Tech engineering is truly superb. It’s upside down though, with many more graduate students than undergraduates.

UVA is going to provide an excellent engineering education and I suspect their engineering graduates will come minted with writing, communication, and critical thinking skills that are about as good as any institution you could name.

About Georgia Tech, you should be aware that much has been written about the undergraduate experience and mental health, and it may be concerning. Here is an article from AJC:

https://www.ajc.com/blog/get-schooled/why-student-mental-health-georgia-tech-and-other-schools-worsening

According to the article:

Georgia Tech has long had a reputation as a school that demands excellence and where students work night and day to meet that expectation. While school leaders have been working to create a more holistic and humane culture, Collin says there is more to do to address what one report called a “shared despair.”

Georgia Tech is not alone here, but there seems to be a lot written about it. Certainly factor this in when considering fit.

If I were advising a really smart kid, I’d probably steer them toward UVA for undergrad and then consider GT for graduate school.

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Anonymous wrote:GA Tech has amazing co ops and internships in Atlanta. You can put your degree to work before graduating. I can't imagine you get anything close to this in Charlottesville.

This board is so ridiculous it makes me laugh. Comments like this with no knowledge of either of their programs offered for their students, yet feel the need to type.

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Anonymous wrote:GA Tech has amazing co ops and internships in Atlanta. You can put your degree to work before graduating. I can't imagine you get anything close to this in Charlottesville.

This board is so ridiculous it makes me laugh. Comments like this with no knowledge of either of their programs offered for their students, yet feel the need to type.

Seems like you "feel the need to type."

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Anonymous wrote:To the one who said UVA is more prestigious, absolutely not in engineering.

GT is like Ivy League of engineering. UVA is not known for engineering. Indeed, Virginia Tech would be higher status than UVA in engineering.

This isn't how undergrad prestige works, that's why grad schools have subject rankings and undergrad has overall rankings. UVa is simply more prestigious for undergrad...

Undergrad engineering is not like other major/subject areas, which is why they are generally in separate school. They don’t have broad liberal arts requirements - like foreign language, English, philosophy, etc. It’s why engineering programs are different from typical university rankings.

DC is in an engineering program and his courses requirements only included one humanities course. The rest were math, chemistry, computer and physics courses. DC was shocked they didn’t even have to take an English class and happy about skipping a foreign language.

A top 25 school has the same outcomes as T10 engineering schools, that's why I posted the salaries. It has little to do with location because Emory CS grads also make more than GT CS grads. The difference is prestige, the reason GT grads can't get jobs outside the south is because the degree isn't as portable as a UVA or Emory degree. They're more likely to be stuck in the south with lower salaries. This isn't new information. If UVA costs less then it's the obvious choice, if they cost the same it's still the obvious choice.

OMG this "prestige" obsessed poster is so so so so so uneducated about engineering. And resistant to feedback. Listen, Georgia Tech is WORLD FAMOUS in engineering. How many more people need to tell you that? Go tell any engineer that you think "GT grads can't get jobs outside of the south because the degree isn't as portable as UVA or Emory" and watch the smirk on their face, like "WHAAAAAT?"

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Virginia Tech engineering graduate from years ago, having spent nearly 7 years there.

First of all, Georgia Tech engineering is truly superb. It’s upside down though, with many more graduate students than undergraduates.

UVA is going to provide an excellent engineering education and I suspect their engineering graduates will come minted with writing, communication, and critical thinking skills that are about as good as any institution you could name.

About Georgia Tech, you should be aware that much has been written about the undergraduate experience and mental health, and it may be concerning. Here is an article from AJC:

https://www.ajc.com/blog/get-schooled/why-student-mental-health-georgia-tech-and-other-schools-worsening

According to the article:

Georgia Tech has long had a reputation as a school that demands excellence and where students work night and day to meet that expectation. While school leaders have been working to create a more holistic and humane culture, Collin says there is more to do to address what one report called a “shared despair.”

Georgia Tech is not alone here, but there seems to be a lot written about it. Certainly factor this in when considering fit.

If I were advising a really smart kid, I’d probably steer them toward UVA for undergrad and then consider GT for graduate school.

This tells me that GATech is more hardcore for engineering than UVA, and that UVA has ore of a liberal artsy engineering program. Hardcore STEM students would probably prefer GT than UVA. Those who don't want harder math/eng classes might prefer UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who thing UVA > GA Tech are UVA students or their parents…

The only people that act like this are parents whose kids didn't get in. Ridiculous. Engineering is hard at any school and respected.

We are oos for both VA and GA. I know several eng/cs major kids from a magnet program. They all applied to GA Tech but not UVA. That was not even on their radar. Some even applied to VA Tech, but not UVA.

And. yet, my Aerospace Engineering kid applied to GT, Purdue, and UVA. Got into all three. Picked UVA and was taught by a woman astronaut. She decided after Calc 3 that engineering wasn't for her - not surprising since 80% of all grads change their majors at least once. She moved towards UVA electives she had enjoyed in econ and poli sci and wound up a PPL (politics, pholosophy & law) major. She's now on full scholarship at Oxford and applying to T8 law schools. We joke often "Thank heavens she didn't pick GT" because you don't go there for poli sci. UVA is more prestigious and a better chance for that 80% who may change majors.

No one's arguing that Political Science isn't better at UVA. Georgia Tech wouldn't have been a good fit for this student. But I'm pretty sure 80 percent of Georgia Tech students don't change their major. Most people applying to Georgia Tech know exactly want they want to do. Engineering is totally not a good major for students who are still dabbling with what they want to do. If they drop the major, it's usually freshman year when they are overwhelmed by how difficult it can be.

Actually, the political science / policy studies faculty at Georgia Tech is top notch. Lots of publications and research prestige -- as good as if not better than UVA.

Does that matter much to the undergraduate experience? Perhaps not. Both great schools.

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Anonymous wrote:To the one who said UVA is more prestigious, absolutely not in engineering.

GT is like Ivy League of engineering. UVA is not known for engineering. Indeed, Virginia Tech would be higher status than UVA in engineering.

This isn't how undergrad prestige works, that's why grad schools have subject rankings and undergrad has overall rankings. UVa is simply more prestigious for undergrad...

Undergrad engineering is not like other major/subject areas, which is why they are generally in separate school. They don’t have broad liberal arts requirements - like foreign language, English, philosophy, etc. It’s why engineering programs are different from typical university rankings.

DC is in an engineering program and his courses requirements only included one humanities course. The rest were math, chemistry, computer and physics courses. DC was shocked they didn’t even have to take an English class and happy about skipping a foreign language.

A top 25 school has the same outcomes as T10 engineering schools, that's why I posted the salaries. It has little to do with location because Emory CS grads also make more than GT CS grads. The difference is prestige, the reason GT grads can't get jobs outside the south is because the degree isn't as portable as a UVA or Emory degree. They're more likely to be stuck in the south with lower salaries. This isn't new information. If UVA costs less then it's the obvious choice, if they cost the same it's still the obvious choice.

Georgia Tech is significantly stronger than both UVA and Emory in computer engineering and engineering overall. UVA is clearly stronger than Emory in computer science and is generally a better institution.

Um no, GT is stronger in engineering it is not more prestigious overall. And also no, Emory is the most prestigious of the 3. Is why when comparing major for major is has the highest salary and highest test scores.
Emory-1500
UVa-1470
Gatech-1440

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who thing UVA > GA Tech are UVA students or their parents…

The only people that act like this are parents whose kids didn't get in. Ridiculous. Engineering is hard at any school and respected.

We are oos for both VA and GA. I know several eng/cs major kids from a magnet program. They all applied to GA Tech but not UVA. That was not even on their radar. Some even applied to VA Tech, but not UVA.

And. yet, my Aerospace Engineering kid applied to GT, Purdue, and UVA. Got into all three. Picked UVA and was taught by a woman astronaut. She decided after Calc 3 that engineering wasn't for her - not surprising since 80% of all grads change their majors at least once. She moved towards UVA electives she had enjoyed in econ and poli sci and wound up a PPL (politics, pholosophy & law) major. She's now on full scholarship at Oxford and applying to T8 law schools. We joke often "Thank heavens she didn't pick GT" because you don't go there for poli sci. UVA is more prestigious and a better chance for that 80% who may change majors.

I don't consider UVA more prestigious than Georgia Tech. It does have greater balance in majors.

Too bad you aren't USnews.

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Anonymous wrote:To the one who said UVA is more prestigious, absolutely not in engineering.

GT is like Ivy League of engineering. UVA is not known for engineering. Indeed, Virginia Tech would be higher status than UVA in engineering.

This isn't how undergrad prestige works, that's why grad schools have subject rankings and undergrad has overall rankings. UVa is simply more prestigious for undergrad...

Undergrad engineering is not like other major/subject areas, which is why they are generally in separate school. They don’t have broad liberal arts requirements - like foreign language, English, philosophy, etc. It’s why engineering programs are different from typical university rankings.

DC is in an engineering program and his courses requirements only included one humanities course. The rest were math, chemistry, computer and physics courses. DC was shocked they didn’t even have to take an English class and happy about skipping a foreign language.

A top 25 school has the same outcomes as T10 engineering schools, that's why I posted the salaries. It has little to do with location because Emory CS grads also make more than GT CS grads. The difference is prestige, the reason GT grads can't get jobs outside the south is because the degree isn't as portable as a UVA or Emory degree. They're more likely to be stuck in the south with lower salaries. This isn't new information. If UVA costs less then it's the obvious choice, if they cost the same it's still the obvious choice.

OMG this "prestige" obsessed poster is so so so so so uneducated about engineering. And resistant to feedback. Listen, Georgia Tech is WORLD FAMOUS in engineering. How many more people need to tell you that? Go tell any engineer that you think "GT grads can't get jobs outside of the south because the degree isn't as portable as UVA or Emory" and watch the smirk on their face, like "WHAAAAAT?"

If it was more prestigious it would show...SOMEWHERE! GT is the lowest ranked of the 3, the lowest salary of the 3 when comparing corresponding majors like CS, and the lowest test scores. But should be considered better for undergrad because the GRAD? Students pump out research? Give me a break. Also Emory is ranked higher than GT globally, which is understood to be an research/grad ranking...
But keep clinging to those niche engineering rankings, it'll soothe your ego.

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Anonymous wrote:If instate for UVa then go there.

OOS Tuition/Fees at GA Tech are $36k
In State at UVA are $31k
Not a slam dunk to go in state for the savings.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who thing UVA > GA Tech are UVA students or their parents…

The only people that act like this are parents whose kids didn't get in. Ridiculous. Engineering is hard at any school and respected.

We are oos for both VA and GA. I know several eng/cs major kids from a magnet program. They all applied to GA Tech but not UVA. That was not even on their radar. Some even applied to VA Tech, but not UVA.

And. yet, my Aerospace Engineering kid applied to GT, Purdue, and UVA. Got into all three. Picked UVA and was taught by a woman astronaut. She decided after Calc 3 that engineering wasn't for her - not surprising since 80% of all grads change their majors at least once. She moved towards UVA electives she had enjoyed in econ and poli sci and wound up a PPL (politics, pholosophy & law) major. She's now on full scholarship at Oxford and applying to T8 law schools. We joke often "Thank heavens she didn't pick GT" because you don't go there for poli sci. UVA is more prestigious and a better chance for that 80% who may change majors.

No one's arguing that Political Science isn't better at UVA. Georgia Tech wouldn't have been a good fit for this student. But I'm pretty sure 80 percent of Georgia Tech students don't change their major. Most people applying to Georgia Tech know exactly want they want to do. Engineering is totally not a good major for students who are still dabbling with what they want to do. If they drop the major, it's usually freshman year when they are overwhelmed by how difficult it can be.

Actually, the political science / policy studies faculty at Georgia Tech is top notch. Lots of publications and research prestige -- as good as if not better than UVA.

Does that matter much to the undergraduate experience? Perhaps not. Both great schools.

Emory political science
19

UVa
Polisci
28
Public policy
34

Gatech
Public policy
47

(UGA is ranked 4 Public policy)

I don't really see the Gatech prestige you're talking about.