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Anonymous
There are no desirable employers that purposely do not hire from ivies. There may be some small chip on the shoulder managers who do not but i guarantee the ivy kids and the rest of the T20 are not looking at these places for jobs. When the top professional schools and top white collar firms have an overrepresentation of T20 and some even target the same 20 ish before other college grads get a look it says all that needs to be said about the desirability of the top school grads |
Anonymous
+1. The stated fact that employers are not hiring from Ivies is a myth perpetuated by those who do not attended. I attended and I hire |
Anonymous
Live in NC, and with 80% from instate it is just not seen as a top place where smart kids go, other than the ones who get morehead. we know many top business school grads who struggled to get a job with a starting salary over 75k, and these were phi beta kappa level grads from unc. Unfortunately with Duke nearby the top consulting and other. business related top jobs go to those grads (econ, math, physics majors are snapped up by MBB, jane street, etc) UNC grads either have to take regional jobs or head to SC to get more pay, or go to DC NY or Boston for much less known companies and less pay than the Duke counterparts. |
Anonymous
No one’s saying they don’t prioritize diversity, we’re saying you can’t just claim that “only minorities” get in OOS or “the vast majority of OOS accepted are minorities.” It’s North Carolina, it’s not like they need to go outside of their state to get racial diversity. What’s silly is how quick some people are to claim this without evidence. Though silly isn’t really the word I would probably use for this trash claim. |
Anonymous
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What about kids who are planning to go to law school? What is the trajectory like out of UNC vs a school like UT or UF or even UVA?
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Anonymous
I mean, you’re really just begging others to mock you with the “kids who will not attend HYP for principled reasons” nonsense. If they are truly principled, they obviously won’t apply - so the decision is not even in their hands. But even if they did apply, statistically speaking, those kids don’t have a goddamned snowball’s chance in hell of seeing an acceptance from HYP anyway. |
Anonymous
You got any data/ sources to back up the BS you just made up and posted? 1) that smart NC kids prefer Duke, 2) that Carolina grads only get regional or SC job offers bc of Duke being 8 miles away, 3) that Carolina grads who do go to DC/NY/Boston get jobs are lesser known companies for less pay than their Duke counterparts? Post it. I’d love to read more about it. |
Anonymous
That wasn’t my post and I have no clue on any of those claims. Only thing I can somewhat agree with is that top students at the most rigorous high schools in state do feel that way a bit. They pull top kids from all schools all over state as they should, so the sentiment you hear people say about oos kids sticking out is also how the very top at strong magnets and privates feel also. Not all, some, not making a giant claim. Plenty of other top kids just love the school spirit and sports and vibe and would not have same issue. |
Anonymous
Yes. The student I coached this year who was admitted EA is white, unhooked and TO even. Excellent writing and ECs. |
Anonymous
+1. This is absurd. |
Anonymous
| I do think based on results I’ve seen over years that UNC is more focused on supplementals than most large publics. |
Anonymous
You know most of the "top kids at the most rigorous high schools in the state"? Every year? UNC is pulling top kids within its own state just like other very good and super popular flagships in other states (like UT Austin, UVA and UGA) and a lot of it has to do with the fact that those in state kids can get a great education in a fun environment for a great price. I am not sure why people seem to think that NC is full of dumb kids and that top NC kids who pick UNC or heaven forbid NC State aren't smart or top of their class. The same in state percentage can be used for a school like Texas. I don't read the same stuck up attitudes about Texas kids that go there like I do about UNC kids here on DCUM. Duke is a perfectly fine school and I'd be happy if any of my kids went there. BUT NC kids aren't overwhelmingly picking it or trying to go there and this is supported by their admissions data (usually less than 10% of their incoming freshmen class are in state, this is public info). Duke has started an outreach and scholarship program just for NC kids because they want to actively change that and kudos to them. Duke also is the perfect school for a certain kind of student, and its environment and culture aren't like those at UNC and other in state options. Just like W&M vs UVA (2 great schools, really different in most ways). And that's ok. Grads from neither UNC nor Duke are hurting for job prospects because of the other. |
Anonymous
I didn’t say all, I said some, also said I wasn’t making a giant claim and wasn’t signing on to the outcome comment someone made. I agree all phenomenal schools, NCSU is terrific for what’s it’s known for. It’s a common sentiment at some area schools, I think it’s exacerbated by the fact that they are in such close proximity. |
Anonymous
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so?
What does this matter? |
Anonymous
Well, if we’re using anecdotal data, I have two fellow Ivy alum friends who won’t hire from Ivies. |