DEI RIFs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just wondering how many people impacted by this are straight white men? I’m guessing not to many.

Guessing not many White men got these jobs in the first place.

Exactly. So this is effectively targeting minorities.

Only because the original hiring was discriminatory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DEI sucks and on January 21, 2021 they were forcing us to declare our pronouns in emails and meetings.

No they weren’t.

We were told that a proper signature block should include pronouns

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI sucks and on January 21, 2021 they were forcing us to declare our pronouns in emails and meetings.

No they weren’t.

We were told that a proper signature block should include pronouns

I have friends at several agencies. Some agencies directed their employees to include pronouns and other agencies did not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI sucks and on January 21, 2021 they were forcing us to declare our pronouns in emails and meetings.

No they weren’t.

We were told that a proper signature block should include pronouns

I have friends at several agencies. Some agencies directed their employees to include pronouns and other agencies did not.

This. Although I have colleagues who put it in their signature block; I did not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just wondering how many people impacted by this are straight white men? I’m guessing not to many.

Guessing not many White men got these jobs in the first place.

Exactly. So this is effectively targeting minorities.

Only because the original hiring was discriminatory.

So hiring anyone who isn’t white is discrimination

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI sucks and on January 21, 2021 they were forcing us to declare our pronouns in emails and meetings.

No they weren’t.

We were told that a proper signature block should include pronouns

I have friends at several agencies. Some agencies directed their employees to include pronouns and other agencies did not.

Wow I am surprised about that. Was that in writing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI sucks and on January 21, 2021 they were forcing us to declare our pronouns in emails and meetings.

No they weren’t.

We were told that a proper signature block should include pronouns

I have friends at several agencies. Some agencies directed their employees to include pronouns and other agencies did not.

Which agencies did? You should be able to say.

[Anonymous]

My agency must have had some inside information because last fall they changed the name of the DEI office to EEO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's not what a RIF is, OP.

The OPM memo calls it a RIF.

Holy shit, the OPM memo is a bloodbath. Wow. The EO stopped short of this, this is absolutely nuts.

https://chcoc.gov/sites/default/files/OPM%20Memo%20Initial%20Guidance%20Regarding%20DEIA%20Executive%20Orders.pdf

I would assume that this will be challenged in court. Am not a federal labor law expert, but this seems like targeted firings disguised as a RIF.

The courts will uphold these terminations. They’re based on the work division- not targeting individuals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI sucks and on January 21, 2021 they were forcing us to declare our pronouns in emails and meetings.

No they weren’t.

We were told that a proper signature block should include pronouns

I have friends at several agencies. Some agencies directed their employees to include pronouns and other agencies did not.

Wow I am surprised about that. Was that in writing?

Our signature templates were updated to include it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI sucks and on January 21, 2021 they were forcing us to declare our pronouns in emails and meetings.

No they weren’t.

We were told that a proper signature block should include pronouns

I have friends at several agencies. Some agencies directed their employees to include pronouns and other agencies did not.

Wow I am surprised about that. Was that in writing?

Our signature templates were updated to include it

That is not “forcing” anything

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just wondering how many people impacted by this are straight white men? I’m guessing not to many.

Guessing not many White men got these jobs in the first place.

Exactly. So this is effectively targeting minorities.

Only because the original hiring was discriminatory.

So hiring anyone who isn’t white is discrimination

Anyone? Of course not. But if you ONLY hire people who aren’t white…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah eeo is required under title vii. We're not listing any eeo complaint folks as dei. Ugh.

But at some agencies, the dei and eeo functions are in the same office. This will be a mess to implement.

Yes. Mine spend the majority of their time on dei and not eeo.

There were a lot of employees disgruntled over their high salaries and the fact that they could hire more people when critical programs couldn’t. But damn. That opm memo is a bloodbath. I didn’t want them to be fired.

why not fire them? They are useless and a waste of money ?

They will. My guess is it’s to work out issues such as distinguishing between which offices also handle EEO and other responsibilities so they make sure they leave staff for those types of duties and don’t give the optics to the courts or the public that they’re eliminating these duties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI sucks and on January 21, 2021 they were forcing us to declare our pronouns in emails and meetings.

No they weren’t.

We were told that a proper signature block should include pronouns

Same. Only about 30% of my coworkers complied. Let them waste their time chasing us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look I hate to see anyone's job impacted by this administration, but do people genuinely feel like these sorts of initiatives/programs do anything to actually enhance any aspect of the workplace?

This. I don’t want to see anyone lose their job but these positions were tenuous.

My DH (a fed) had encouraged me to apply to some at one point because I’m a minority and the jobs were such a boondoggle. I never applied because I realized it was a temporary trend. Plus, I overheard a number of DH’s “trainings” and yikes. Some were good but many I would not want to be associated with.