DEI RIFs

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Are they given 2 weeks or a month of administrative leave or just fired on the spot?


www.opm.gov/media/0gpnja24/opm-memo-guidance-regarding-rifs-of-deia-offices-1-24-2025.pdf


action to terminate, to the maximum extent allowed by law, "

so basically the question is-what does law or federal job safeties allow?

I am so hoping they are offered laterals.

Doing what???


there are many administrative roles with similar skill requirements (e.g., management of staff) but without the DEI focus. I'd imagine that in many settings the skill set is the same. The people being lateralled would just do other functions, using the same skills and qualifications.


I think people believe the federal government is like academia where these positions had obscure dei requirements in the job posting and only had dei skillsets. In our agency they just added dei to existing HR positions


Most people on these threads like to pretend that the government is going to crumble without their expertise and historical knowledge, but the fact that you can just move a DEI person to any other admin job is pretty good evidence to the contrary. *literally* anyone can do most of these jobs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Department of Veterans Affairs placed 60 DEI employees on leave pending their removal.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/department-veterans-affairs-says-60-dei-employees-put-leave-8-million-in-savings


Why there are so many DEI employees at Veterans affairs?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are they given 2 weeks or a month of administrative leave or just fired on the spot?


www.opm.gov/media/0gpnja24/opm-memo-guidance-regarding-rifs-of-deia-offices-1-24-2025.pdf


action to terminate, to the maximum extent allowed by law, "

so basically the question is-what does law or federal job safeties allow?

I am so hoping they are offered laterals.

Doing what???


there are many administrative roles with similar skill requirements (e.g., management of staff) but without the DEI focus. I'd imagine that in many settings the skill set is the same. The people being lateralled would just do other functions, using the same skills and qualifications.


I think people believe the federal government is like academia where these positions had obscure dei requirements in the job posting and only had dei skillsets. In our agency they just added dei to existing HR positions


Most people on these threads like to pretend that the government is going to crumble without their expertise and historical knowledge, but the fact that you can just move a DEI person to any other admin job is pretty good evidence to the contrary. *literally* anyone can do most of these jobs.


DEI in action is a natural flow from Human Resources. Yes, they can definitely go into hour an reproduce positions, other recruitment positions, contracting review, and other public facing roles.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Department of Veterans Affairs placed 60 DEI employees on leave pending their removal.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/department-veterans-affairs-says-60-dei-employees-put-leave-8-million-in-savings


Why there are so many DEI employees at Veterans affairs?


The Department of Veterans Affairs employs over 400,000 people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Department of Veterans Affairs placed 60 DEI employees on leave pending their removal.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/department-veterans-affairs-says-60-dei-employees-put-leave-8-million-in-savings


can they sue? what about job protections?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Department of Veterans Affairs placed 60 DEI employees on leave pending their removal.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/department-veterans-affairs-says-60-dei-employees-put-leave-8-million-in-savings


can they sue? what about job protections?


presumably they can be lateralled or they will receive severance. Those would be the protections, if they are calling it a RIF.

but it is a good question on what they can call a RIF.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Yee-hah! No more DEI. Merit is back!


Back? Meh, merit will never be a thing until there is flat out blind hiring. Give managers qualifications and interviews without faces. Then we can focus on merit.


They’ve tried that. It’s leads to fewer minorities being hired. The navy eliminated pictures of candidates on the assumption that people were discriminating when they could tell the race of candidates during promotion boards. When pictures were eliminated, the rate of promotions for minorities dropped significantly. Turns out there was discrimination, but it was against white candidates. The navy’s response to this was to add back pictures.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2021/08/03/cnp-removing-photos-from-promotion-boards-has-hurt-diversity/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Department of Veterans Affairs placed 60 DEI employees on leave pending their removal.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/department-veterans-affairs-says-60-dei-employees-put-leave-8-million-in-savings


Why there are so many DEI employees at Veterans affairs?


Are you joking?

You don’t understand why there are so many DISABLED Vets?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Department of Veterans Affairs placed 60 DEI employees on leave pending their removal.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/department-veterans-affairs-says-60-dei-employees-put-leave-8-million-in-savings


Why there are so many DEI employees at Veterans affairs?


Because it's healthcare and they serve every type of person imaginable, many of those disabled homeless veterans that get overlooked and sneered at on streets because people have no idea they served. Yep, those are vets. It takes a diverse healthcare workforce and social worker network to understand and help the myriad of circumstances. It's not uncommon for most hospitals, VA or otherwise to have robust diversity training programs for their healthcare employees.
Anonymous
What ? Why would anyone bump anyone?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Department of Veterans Affairs placed 60 DEI employees on leave pending their removal.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/department-veterans-affairs-says-60-dei-employees-put-leave-8-million-in-savings


Why there are so many DEI employees at Veterans affairs?


Are you using DEI as a code word for brown person? Perhaps because a third of the military identifies as non-white.
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