WIC..pay for each item separately?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As an adult, I'd never take that as a gift.

Be an adult and pay for it yourself.

Why?

I am not as old as some of you cranky hags so I don't see anything wrong with it.

Drive my old car that keeps breaking down, go into debt just to prove myself, or accept a generous offer.....hmmm tough choice.

I like my car and my debt free status.

Enjoy your $800 a month car payments. I'm glad I can use my money on other things.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I had relatives buy me a car when we had our first child. It felt weird, but at the time all we had was DH's truck, which we had free and clear. I got over the weird pretty damn fast.

Now that we have 2, I dream about having a minivan or an SUV. Then I think about how I get pretty decent gas mileage, and how, thanks to familial generosity I have one less bill to worry about every month, and I wake up with a smile on my face.

[Anonymous]

My grandmother bought me a car as a graduation gift. I insisted on paying her back each month, and although she finally caved b/c we came to an agreement on a "discounted" price, I felt I did the right thing.

Anonymous wrote:"As an adult, I'd never take that as a gift.

Be an adult and pay for it yourself. "

You don't know what you would do until it happened to you.

[Anonymous]

This cranky hag and her husband paid cash for our new car.
no car note . . .

My $800/month goes toward our children's tuition instead.

Cranky Hag - I like it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an adult, I'd never take that as a gift.

Be an adult and pay for it yourself.

Why?

I am not as old as some of you cranky hags so I don't see anything wrong with it.

Drive my old car that keeps breaking down, go into debt just to prove myself, or accept a generous offer.....hmmm tough choice.

I like my car and my debt free status.

Enjoy your $800 a month car payments. I'm glad I can use my money on other things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This cranky hag and her husband paid cash for our new car.
no car note . . .

My $800/month goes toward our children's tuition instead.

Cranky Hag - I like it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an adult, I'd never take that as a gift.

Be an adult and pay for it yourself.

Why?

I am not as old as some of you cranky hags so I don't see anything wrong with it.

Drive my old car that keeps breaking down, go into debt just to prove myself, or accept a generous offer.....hmmm tough choice.

I like my car and my debt free status.

Enjoy your $800 a month car payments. I'm glad I can use my money on other things.

Then you obviously don't know what it's like to not have nothing.

[Anonymous]

I have no problem with the OP being baffled or annoyed or questioning about the Lincoln Navigator. If someone needs WIC then they need to turn that monster in for a gas sipping sedan. She could get more in gas savings than she benefits from WIC.


It's really not that easy to turn in an expensive car, particularly now. I long to get rid of our 20 mpg Ford Taurus, but it's not worth enough to get another usuable car. Sure, over 3 years the gas savings would pay for a new (used) car. But one of the things about being poor is not having the cash on hand (or the credit on reasonable terms) to make long-term decisions like that.

Plus if the family has more than three kids in carseats, they need an SUV or a minivan.

I agree with PP on this. I volunteer at a food shelter and every month when we help carry bags of food out to people's cars, I find myself loading bags of free groceries into BMW SUVs, HUMVs, and Mercedes SUVs. It is a little strange - and most of these are newer models. Maybe they bought it and find themselves stuck with the payment now, maybe they just have different priorities, but it totally makes me wonder who really buys these cars, anyway. My husband and I make $250K and we drive a Corolla and a Sonata.

You may need a larger vehicle if you have more than 3 kids (and it IS possible to fit 3 carseats even in a Corolla), but you don't need a 2010 Mercedes SUV to transport your kids if you are on food stamps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"It's not as easy as showing up somewhere, sticking your hand out, and saying *Where the free shit at?* "

My kids got free breakfasts, lunches, and snacks at school (plus a whole mess of other free shit). All I did was fill out a few forms every year for each kid.

Well if it's that easy then I have one more thing about going to school to look forward to. Except for the fact that they'll probably be feeding my kids crap.

The free/reduced price meals at school is VERY easy if your income is low enough to qualify. Just fill out some forms each year at the start of the school year, and your kid is in.

Over the summer some schools offer free/reduced lunch, no income requirments.

The food, unfortunately, is crap. THe milk was OK but the rest of the food was absolute crap. (I showed up a few times over the summer just to see what the meals were like and to help promote the program.) The food that we as a nation are providing to poor kids is, again, crap. Sad that we can't even provide sandwiches on whole grain bread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lincoln Navigator!?!?!?
That annoys me.
I don't have a Lincoln Navigator - and I would love one. Maybe if I cheated the system, I too could afford one.

UGH

15:32 here. And how do you know that's what she's doing? I worked, and paid taxes, for 16 years before I had kids and had to sign up for WIC. If the experience of getting checks wasn't so frustrating, and the choices so limited and in some cases unhealthy (I can't have Giant brand organic apple juice, but JUICY JUICE is OK!?! Really?), I'd have no problem taking everything I could get out of the system. I paid enough into it, now that I need help the system can damn well pay me back.

You sound bitter for someone who is getting something for free! You may not think it's for free because you "paid" into it for 16 years, but there are many people who pay into the system for many more years than that and don't ever get anything back. You sound ungrateful!! It people with this attitude- "I'd have no problem taking everything I could get" - that hurt the system.

I've never been on WIC, but my sister has been and while I understand the system's not perfect she actually APPRECIATED the help and busts her ass every day to stay off welfare now that the kids are a little older. She takes what she needs for now, but understands it's help while she's getting on her feet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This cranky hag and her husband paid cash for our new car.
no car note . . .

My $800/month goes toward our children's tuition instead.

Cranky Hag - I like it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an adult, I'd never take that as a gift.

Be an adult and pay for it yourself.

Why?

I am not as old as some of you cranky hags so I don't see anything wrong with it.

Drive my old car that keeps breaking down, go into debt just to prove myself, or accept a generous offer.....hmmm tough choice.

I like my car and my debt free status.

Enjoy your $800 a month car payments. I'm glad I can use my money on other things.

And like I said...you are probably a lot older than I am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It depends. I havent been on it in around 6 months. I stopped going because, even though we qualify I hate the whole experience. But when I was going they broke it down into checks for each person on the program and then further into categories: I had checks for food items as a nursing mother until DS was 12 months, then I had milk on a separate check. Then DS got checks with food on it, and separate checks for his milk. THEN DD got checks with her food allotment and separate checks with milk.

And to make it even more fun, when DD was an infant, she stopped nursing at 6 months. So it was my checks, DS's and then DD got separate checks just for formula and then separate checks with just Baby cereal, and another set of checks just with baby juice.

All that on top of the aggravating and dehumanizing experience I had every frakking time I had to go to the WIC center to recertify for checks and I said screw it. My husband doesn't understand, but then he never had the pleasure of going with me.

So, you deny your children the nourishment the need because of your false pride? Humility is a lesson most of us have to learn in life and it seems that you are still arrogant and too good to use services that will give your children food. Don't worry, one way or another, you will learn humility.

You know what? Screw you. It's called having a budget, cutting coupons, buying things off brand and on sale, foregoing updating my wardrobe except to get rid of frumpy maternity crap, living with dents on my car because who cares how it looks as long as it runs well, foregoing replacing things that were destroyed in a recent basement flood unless they were absolutely necessary, signing my kids up for medicare - another head bangingly frustrating process - since it would cost $500 more than we can afford to put them on DH's employer's insurance .... I could go on. You don't know me or the first thing about my family, so I'd appreciate you not judging or lecturing me about how to raise my children. Be assured that my children want for nothing and I do indeed know the meanings of the words Humility, Economy and none of the 3 posts I've made to this thread have been to invite anyone's pity or anything at my circumstances. My point was to illustrate that not everyone is trying to game the system, and that if they are, they must have the patience of Job. It's not as easy as showing up somewhere, sticking your hand out, and saying *Where the free shit at?*

Please do not end sentences with a preposition. You should also try to improve your limited vocabulary in referring to goods for which there is no charge. Do you eat with this mouth or kiss your children? Wash your mouth out with soap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You know what? Screw you. It's called having a budget, cutting coupons, buying things off brand and on sale, foregoing updating my wardrobe except to get rid of frumpy maternity crap, living with dents on my car because who cares how it looks as long as it runs well, foregoing replacing things that were destroyed in a recent basement flood unless they were absolutely necessary, signing my kids up for medicare - another head bangingly frustrating process - since it would cost $500 more than we can afford to put them on DH's employer's insurance .... I could go on. You don't know me or the first thing about my family, so I'd appreciate you not judging or lecturing me about how to raise my children. Be assured that my children want for nothing and I do indeed know the meanings of the words Humility, Economy and none of the 3 posts I've made to this thread have been to invite anyone's pity or anything at my circumstances. My point was to illustrate that not everyone is trying to game the system, and that if they are, they must have the patience of Job. It's not as easy as showing up somewhere, sticking your hand out, and saying *Where the free shit at?*

Please do not end sentences with a preposition. You should also try to improve your limited vocabulary in referring to goods for which there is no charge. Do you eat with this mouth or kiss your children? Wash your mouth out with soap.

Seriously?

I am not even the PP but come on...don't be such a twaffle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This cranky hag and her husband paid cash for our new car.
no car note . . .

My $800/month goes toward our children's tuition instead.

Cranky Hag - I like it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an adult, I'd never take that as a gift.

Be an adult and pay for it yourself.

Why?

I am not as old as some of you cranky hags so I don't see anything wrong with it.

Drive my old car that keeps breaking down, go into debt just to prove myself, or accept a generous offer.....hmmm tough choice.

I like my car and my debt free status.

Enjoy your $800 a month car payments. I'm glad I can use my money on other things.

And like I said...you are probably a lot older than I am.

It's called pride! Don't you have any? This is what is wrong with a lot of people - younger or older. I just turned 36 - not sure if I fall into the ole' hag category according to you, but your attitude is disgusting. We didn't have a lot growing up and I learned from my parents that even when you don't have a lot you work your ass off and be happy and proud of what you do have. I don't expect help from anyone and would never take something a expensive as a car from anyone and then have your attitude about it.

I think some of us ole' hags have used better life planning skills than you. I know that at any moment everything can be taken from you, but with your lazy attitude you will never get ahead in life. I just hope I can raise my kids to not be like you. I've never expected anything from my parents or any relatives in terms of large gifts - cars, wedding, college, house, etc. My DH and I have paid for everything we have and are damn proud of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This cranky hag and her husband paid cash for our new car.
no car note . . .

My $800/month goes toward our children's tuition instead.

Cranky Hag - I like it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an adult, I'd never take that as a gift.

Be an adult and pay for it yourself.

Why?

I am not as old as some of you cranky hags so I don't see anything wrong with it.

Drive my old car that keeps breaking down, go into debt just to prove myself, or accept a generous offer.....hmmm tough choice.

I like my car and my debt free status.

Enjoy your $800 a month car payments. I'm glad I can use my money on other things.

And like I said...you are probably a lot older than I am.

It's called pride! Don't you have any? This is what is wrong with a lot of people - younger or older. I just turned 36 - not sure if I fall into the ole' hag category according to you, but your attitude is disgusting. We didn't have a lot growing up and I learned from my parents that even when you don't have a lot you work your ass off and be happy and proud of what you do have. I don't expect help from anyone and would never take something a expensive as a car from anyone and then have your attitude about it.

I think some of us ole' hags have used better life planning skills than you. I know that at any moment everything can be taken from you, but with your lazy attitude you will never get ahead in life. I just hope I can raise my kids to not be like you. I've never expected anything from my parents or any relatives in terms of large gifts - cars, wedding, college, house, etc. My DH and I have paid for everything we have and are damn proud of it.

You sound bitter.

Get some sunshine.

I'd say I have great life planning skills if I could realize that at 22 years old, I don't need to go into debt buying a new car. Especially when someone was offering to replace my clunker. For what? Some foolish pride? I was just getting my life started- why start off behind if I didn't have to?

That doesn't make me lazy. Just because I had help, that doesn't mean that I "expected" my car to be replaced. It was a generous offer and I accepted it. The point was that you can't judge my financial situation from the car I drive because I did not pay for it.

But really, I suspect you just want to vent because it seems as if you missed that point.

BTW, it's not really someone's age that makes them a cranky hag, it's the attitude.

[Anonymous]

I'll never forget the time that my family "adopted" a family for the holidays. We were so excited and went shopping and got them all this food and gifts (per the guidelines of the program that we participated in). Anyway, we all went over to their home right before Christmas to deliver all the stuff. We pull up to their nice house, walk through the doors as they tell us to just "put it in the kitchen" and walk past their leather couches and huge big screen tv. They never said thank you and we were there all over maybe 60 seconds. It was so sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Please do not end sentences with a preposition. [b] You should also try to improve your limited vocabulary in referring to goods for which there is no charge. Do you eat with this mouth or kiss your children? Wash your mouth out with soap.

Please consult your grammar manuals or whatever you're relying on for this statement. This is no longer an absolute rule. Even the "classics" like Strunk and White have concluded as such.