Shovel Snow-Tomorrow ?

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Anonymous wrote:You'd be a fool to put sand down. You're incurring liability because the sidewalk no longer has an open and obvious threat. But you're not going to improve the sidewalk enough to prevent someone from slipping and suing you.

If you don't want to use salt, you're better off not shoveling at all.

This is insane.

If you clear your sidewalk/path properly, it's very safe and not at all that difficult.

The ones who don't do anything are FAR more dangerous, because they melt, refreeze, melt, refreeze, and it becomes a skating rink. This is dangerous and stupid advice.

Yes, uncleared sidewalks are obviously far more dangerous. That creates an obligation for the walker to avoid them.

You must be responsible for an awfully small sidewalk if you think you can practically clear a sidewalk with a shovel and sand to the same degree as adding salt. You can avoid slipper y spots with sand because you're not going to be able to spread it everywhere by hand. You're going to miss spots, and a walker might find one of of those spots and fall.

DP. Hon, this is the DMV we're talking about. Shoveling to concrete/asphalt is the norm. Salt is unnecessary and harmful.

You don't live in the DMV you think that's the norm.

The norm is not shoveling. When someone does shovel, they do a narrow path. By the time they get around to shoveling, people have already walked it, creating ice. So they shovel down to the ice, and then dump salt on it.

I'd show pictures, but almost no one around me has shoveled yet.

+1. Very few of my neighbors have even gone outside yet. Our street is not plowed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You'd be a fool to put sand down. You're incurring liability because the sidewalk no longer has an open and obvious threat. But you're not going to improve the sidewalk enough to prevent someone from slipping and suing you.

If you don't want to use salt, you're better off not shoveling at all.

This is insane.

If you clear your sidewalk/path properly, it's very safe and not at all that difficult.

The ones who don't do anything are FAR more dangerous, because they melt, refreeze, melt, refreeze, and it becomes a skating rink. This is dangerous and stupid advice.

Yes, uncleared sidewalks are obviously far more dangerous. That creates an obligation for the walker to avoid them.

You must be responsible for an awfully small sidewalk if you think you can practically clear a sidewalk with a shovel and sand to the same degree as adding salt. You can avoid slipper y spots with sand because you're not going to be able to spread it everywhere by hand. You're going to miss spots, and a walker might find one of of those spots and fall.

DP. Hon, this is the DMV we're talking about. Shoveling to concrete/asphalt is the norm. Salt is unnecessary and harmful.

You don't live in the DMV you think that's the norm.

The norm is not shoveling. When someone does shovel, they do a narrow path. By the time they get around to shoveling, people have already walked it, creating ice. So they shovel down to the ice, and then dump salt on it.

I'd show pictures, but almost no one around me has shoveled yet.

Well, yes, the norm is to wait a day or two and just let it melt on its own. But the norm is not to add salt-rather-than-sand to avoid litigation. That sounds like some Northern-state BS. Not here.

Yes it is. Ever go to Home Depot or Lowes and notice what people buy? Salt. Rock salt and calcium chloride. And lots of it.

Heck, most of my neighbors put down salt last night ahead of the storm!

I'm guessing you live in a rowhouse in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You'd be a fool to put sand down. You're incurring liability because the sidewalk no longer has an open and obvious threat. But you're not going to improve the sidewalk enough to prevent someone from slipping and suing you.

If you don't want to use salt, you're better off not shoveling at all.

This is insane.

If you clear your sidewalk/path properly, it's very safe and not at all that difficult.

The ones who don't do anything are FAR more dangerous, because they melt, refreeze, melt, refreeze, and it becomes a skating rink. This is dangerous and stupid advice.

Yes, uncleared sidewalks are obviously far more dangerous. That creates an obligation for the walker to avoid them.

You must be responsible for an awfully small sidewalk if you think you can practically clear a sidewalk with a shovel and sand to the same degree as adding salt. You can avoid slipper y spots with sand because you're not going to be able to spread it everywhere by hand. You're going to miss spots, and a walker might find one of of those spots and fall.

DP. Hon, this is the DMV we're talking about. Shoveling to concrete/asphalt is the norm. Salt is unnecessary and harmful.

You don't live in the DMV you think that's the norm.

The norm is not shoveling. When someone does shovel, they do a narrow path. By the time they get around to shoveling, people have already walked it, creating ice. So they shovel down to the ice, and then dump salt on it.

I'd show pictures, but almost no one around me has shoveled yet.

Well, yes, the norm is to wait a day or two and just let it melt on its own. But the norm is not to add salt-rather-than-sand to avoid litigation. That sounds like some Northern-state BS. Not here.

Yes it is. Ever go to Home Depot or Lowes and notice what people buy? Salt. Rock salt and calcium chloride. And lots of it.

Heck, most of my neighbors put down salt last night ahead of the storm!

I'm guessing you live in a rowhouse in DC.

Seems they're carrying and selling less of it though.

I'm in Nova but I used to live in DC.

[Anonymous]

All my neighbors have busted out their snowblowers. We’re the newbies and will have to rely on our trusty old shovels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shoveled 6+ inches of snow off my 3 cars, and cleared the sidewalk in front of my Arlington house and my neighbor's house. Pace yourselves, keep your knees soft, anchor your shoulders in your back and engage your core. Great workout!

The snow is wet and heavy not light powder. Our street is down to the black top but it's a main road.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You need to get out there as soon as you can and shovel, because the snow will get heavy and it will freeze over during the night. Lay down salt where you've shoveled a path.

Skip the salt. Use sand if you need to lay down something. In this area, any and all salt will wash into the Potomac and then the Bay, leading to blooms and then dead spots.

Sorry, I use "pet-safe" salt, and I'm pregnant with a sled dog who pulls like crazy. I will put myself first this winter, so I don't lose the baby if the dog makes me fall on the ice that will accumulate if I don't salt my walkway.

If you actually care about your baby, you’d care about the world you are leaving it and would be less cavalier in “putting yourself first.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You'd be a fool to put sand down. You're incurring liability because the sidewalk no longer has an open and obvious threat. But you're not going to improve the sidewalk enough to prevent someone from slipping and suing you.

If you don't want to use salt, you're better off not shoveling at all.

This is insane.

If you clear your sidewalk/path properly, it's very safe and not at all that difficult.

The ones who don't do anything are FAR more dangerous, because they melt, refreeze, melt, refreeze, and it becomes a skating rink. This is dangerous and stupid advice.

Yes, uncleared sidewalks are obviously far more dangerous. That creates an obligation for the walker to avoid them.

You must be responsible for an awfully small sidewalk if you think you can practically clear a sidewalk with a shovel and sand to the same degree as adding salt. You can avoid slipper y spots with sand because you're not going to be able to spread it everywhere by hand. You're going to miss spots, and a walker might find one of of those spots and fall.

DP. Hon, this is the DMV we're talking about. Shoveling to concrete/asphalt is the norm. Salt is unnecessary and harmful.

You don't live in the DMV you think that's the norm.

The norm is not shoveling. When someone does shovel, they do a narrow path. By the time they get around to shoveling, people have already walked it, creating ice. So they shovel down to the ice, and then dump salt on it.

I'd show pictures, but almost no one around me has shoveled yet.

Well, yes, the norm is to wait a day or two and just let it melt on its own. But the norm is not to add salt-rather-than-sand to avoid litigation. That sounds like some Northern-state BS. Not here.

Yes it is. Ever go to Home Depot or Lowes and notice what people buy? Salt. Rock salt and calcium chloride. And lots of it.

Heck, most of my neighbors put down salt last night ahead of the storm!

I'm guessing you live in a rowhouse in DC.

Seems they're carrying and selling less of it though.

I'm in Nova but I used to live in DC.

Maybe that's true in Nova, but certainly not in MoCo. Salt is the norm here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to get out there as soon as you can and shovel, because the snow will get heavy and it will freeze over during the night. Lay down salt where you've shoveled a path.

Skip the salt. Use sand if you need to lay down something. In this area, any and all salt will wash into the Potomac and then the Bay, leading to blooms and then dead spots.

Sorry, I use "pet-safe" salt, and I'm pregnant with a sled dog who pulls like crazy. I will put myself first this winter, so I don't lose the baby if the dog makes me fall on the ice that will accumulate if I don't salt my walkway.

If you actually care about your baby, you’d care about the world you are leaving it and would be less cavalier in “putting yourself first.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to get out there as soon as you can and shovel, because the snow will get heavy and it will freeze over during the night. Lay down salt where you've shoveled a path.

Skip the salt. Use sand if you need to lay down something. In this area, any and all salt will wash into the Potomac and then the Bay, leading to blooms and then dead spots.

Sorry, I use "pet-safe" salt, and I'm pregnant with a sled dog who pulls like crazy. I will put myself first this winter, so I don't lose the baby if the dog makes me fall on the ice that will accumulate if I don't salt my walkway.

If you actually care about your baby, you’d care about the world you are leaving it and would be less cavalier in “putting yourself first.”

Yawn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If snowing throughout the day tomorrow, when do you plan on shovel your sidewalk?

TIA

As a New Englander, every 2 inches or so

This is the correct answer. I've done 2 shovels so far. It is a lot harder if you wait for the full snow to be over.
- Wisconsin native

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC donut hole is real!!!!

Look at map. No snow inside beltway!!!

Tons of snow now outside beltway.

Where? I'm inside the beltway and there is lots of snow?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to get out there as soon as you can and shovel, because the snow will get heavy and it will freeze over during the night. Lay down salt where you've shoveled a path.

Skip the salt. Use sand if you need to lay down something. In this area, any and all salt will wash into the Potomac and then the Bay, leading to blooms and then dead spots.

Sorry, I use "pet-safe" salt, and I'm pregnant with a sled dog who pulls like crazy. I will put myself first this winter, so I don't lose the baby if the dog makes me fall on the ice that will accumulate if I don't salt my walkway.

If you actually care about your baby, you’d care about the world you are leaving it and would be less cavalier in “putting yourself first.”

NP. Please go away. You are absolutely ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shoveled 6+ inches of snow off my 3 cars, and cleared the sidewalk in front of my Arlington house and my neighbor's house. Pace yourselves, keep your knees soft, anchor your shoulders in your back and engage your core. Great workout!

The snow is wet and heavy not light powder. Our street is down to the black top but it's a main road.

Yes, that's why you pace yourself and engage your core, so you don't hurt yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All my neighbors have busted out their snowblowers. We’re the newbies and will have to rely on our trusty old shovels.

We have two-car garages in my neighborhood that are not that large. We can't fit both of our cars in, and store a snow blower for the once every 3-5 years we might need it. So we make do with shovels too. Anyone on our street with a snowblower doesn't put two cars in their garage (or even one.)

[Anonymous]

It was hard and I am very cranky about it but our sidewalk is cleared and our driveway and car are good enough.