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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][url][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You'd be a fool to put sand down. You're incurring liability because the sidewalk no longer has an open and obvious threat. But you're not going to improve the sidewalk enough to prevent someone from slipping and suing you.

If you don't want to use salt, you're better off not shoveling at all.[/quote]

This is insane.

If you clear your sidewalk/path properly, it's very safe and not at all that difficult.

The ones who don't do anything are FAR more dangerous, because they melt, refreeze, melt, refreeze, and it becomes a skating rink. This is dangerous and stupid advice.

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Yes, uncleared sidewalks are obviously far more dangerous. That creates an obligation for the walker to avoid them.

You must be responsible for an awfully small sidewalk if you think you can practically clear a sidewalk with a shovel and sand to the same degree as adding salt. You can avoid slipper y spots with sand because you're not going to be able to spread it everywhere by hand. You're going to miss spots, and a walker might find one of of those spots and fall.[/quote]

DP.  Hon, this is the DMV we're talking about.  Shoveling to concrete/asphalt is the norm.  Salt is unnecessary and harmful.  [/quote]

You don't live in the DMV you think that's the norm.

The norm is not shoveling. When someone does shovel, they do a narrow path. By the time they get around to shoveling, people have already walked it, creating ice. So they shovel down to the ice, and then dump salt on it.

I'd show pictures, but almost no one around me has shoveled yet.[/quote]

+1. Very few of my neighbors have even gone outside yet. Our street is not plowed. [/quote]

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