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Anonymous wrote:Let me guess, your relative is Jewish and your children are not?
Other way around, lol. But thanks for reiterating yet again the background anti-semitism!
DP. I was thinking relative was evangelistic Christian and kid was Jewish since that has been my experience with this intolerant behavior.
relative is a limousine liberal who was making a hip anti-Semitic comment he thought was amusing. Like wink wink nod nod all Jews are sneaky
I don’t know any liberals who wouldn’t find that highly offensive. Anti semitism isn’t hip in liberal circles at all.
The guys a jerk. Ghost him and don’t engage with relatives who try to push you into playing nice.
Antisemitism is absolutely part of the new woke. I say this as one who tended to lean progressive until the aftermath of October 7th.
I was prepared to talk about Gaza actually but not for the casual anti-Semitic “joke”! I do feel like it was evidence that it’s ok in some circles to say those things now (as long as there are no Jews around). I feel like the Gaza convo would have been totally normal unless he did something weird like demand that I recite that Israel is committing genocide if I brought up my kid’s bar mitzvah prep. (which is actually the kind of thing he’d do …)
Ok, OP, exactly what did he say?
And how could you have not reacted on the spot??
I’m Christian and at least would have uttered an ‘WTF dude’
Also, people can acknowledge and realize that Oct 7th was horrible and terrorism is awful and not tolerated , Hamas should be held accountable AND think that what the Israeli government is doing is genocide.
Those ideas are not mutually exclusive, not anti-Semitic and not fodder for a joke or a slight.
Gaza actually wasn’t part of the conversation but thanks for the lecture. I’m sure relative also would love to lecture me about what is and is not anti-Semitic, which is partly why I didn’t respond. And he had already gone off at me on an unrelated matter, so I had zero interest in discussing it with him at that time and creating more conflict at the holiday gathering. I just left the room.
Like I said, Well that is sort of on you.
I do not tolerate racism or anti-semitism or any -ism in my presence, especially if directed towards my child.
But that was your choice, if others want to tell you the “joke” was not offensive, tell them to kick rocks.
But now you want to make a big deal of ‘breaking off’ the relationship. Just leave his crazy a** alone. Why do you need to crowd source this with your whole extended family????
If he says something out of turn, go off on him.
you totally failed to read my OP. I don’t want to make a big deal - that’s the whole point. I want it to go away. my kid actually wasn’t there at the time but probably my reaction would have been different. I’m still mulling over what to do.
I read your OP.
Some people only understand getting their butts cussed out!
Let her rip!!!!
It’s a good question to ask why I don’t feel capable of doing that. I think it’s because I just want to get away from him, not even have the interaction that yelling would entail. There would be no satisfaction for me and then he’d just tell everyone I’m “crazy.”
I mean what advice do you want? You aren’t willing to stand up for your child, there’s nothing else to say.
This is unfair to OP and her child. I'm Jewish and most of my family is not. I wouldn't want my mom to try to defend me. First of all, she's not equipped with the language to do it. Second, it would just fuel the fire; I'm thinking of my relatives who might say something like this and they are all attention-seekers who say stuff to get a reaction. There are lots of ways to stand up for your child. OP should make sure her child knows they are loved and cared for, and part of the way to do that is to let the relationship with this other relative lapse.
I've got a cousin who is gay and my aunt handles her bigoted brother in law in the same way. Just walk away, rant about it to me and my mom, and continue to validate and support her daughter. They only see that uncle at funerals and mostly avoid talking to him even then.
Point is, OP, it's ok to just quietly walk away from this relative. You can go so far as to avoid family gatherings he will be at, but if that's not feasible given your extended family dynamics, just find another room to be in most of the time.
Thus makes zero sense to me. I am African American, been that my whole life, and I honest to God do not understand the ability to say , ‘hey, that’s racist,, sexist, anti-Semitic, inappropriate, out of order, insensitive, mean, rude’ PICK A WORD!
WHO cares if you are the only one in the room, do you know often black people have to deal with that -ish?!!
There is no argument, you call the person out, end of discussion. They try to respond, ‘I SAID WHAT I said!’
This weird over thinking and explaining and discussing, it’s weird and pointless.
You do not tolerate these things. PERIOD!