California bill would give public university admission priority to slaves' descendants

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about the country's discrimination against others:

Japanese Americans
Jews
the Chinese
The LGBTQIA
Hispanics
Muslims

Irish also.

[Anonymous]

DCUM having a great time with black propel today. Next week we’ll have our 50th thread on Asian discrimination in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about the country's discrimination against others:

Japanese Americans
Jews
the Chinese
The LGBTQIA
Hispanics
Muslims

Literally that would be 99% of the country that ag some point faced discrimination. Slavery was a uniquely protracted and harmful thing - very different than the discrimination most other ways of immigrants experienced.

Yes, but there are a lot of white descendants of slaves at this point. Not sure how that discrimination (which was horrific and harmful as you say) of their ancestors then should mean priority now over groups currently experiencing discrimination.

That is not what this is about. If it is about discrimination currently -- it would have no chance of being legal. It is about the past so yes 2% slave ancestory means you would get it.

[Anonymous]

Someone update me: how many “what about the non chattel slaves that were Irish (or insert some other white group here)” have been sent so far

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the same logic, the only people who should pay/be punished for such a reparation are the slave owner's descendants. Why would anyone else be liable for this?

Everyone in the US now benefits from the fact that slavery and Jim Crow existed, just like everyone in the US now benefits from the fact that Native Americans were pushed west and then onto reservations and then those were broken up. The economic and political power and stability of this country in 2024 would not exist without those things having happened. The United States—the same, ongoing country/government we have—a democracy, by the way—did those things. They are in our founding documents which we still refer to. It doesn’t matter who owned who, as citizens of the US we all own this country and its history.

Yes and your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone update me: how many “what about the non chattel slaves that were Irish (or insert some other white group here)” have been sent so far

The idea is that this does not end with slavery. Every other interest group will be pushing for it as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone update me: how many “what about the non chattel slaves that were Irish (or insert some other white group here)” have been sent so far

The idea is that this does not end with slavery. Every other interest group will be pushing for it as well.

Yep, because you were the first to think of such things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the same logic, the only people who should pay/be punished for such a reparation are the slave owner's descendants. Why would anyone else be liable for this?

Everyone in the US now benefits from the fact that slavery and Jim Crow existed, just like everyone in the US now benefits from the fact that Native Americans were pushed west and then onto reservations and then those were broken up. The economic and political power and stability of this country in 2024 would not exist without those things having happened. The United States—the same, ongoing country/government we have—a democracy, by the way—did those things. They are in our founding documents which we still refer to. It doesn’t matter who owned who, as citizens of the US we all own this country and its history.

That's false. You have to prove it.

Prove…that the land the US is on belonged to Native American tribes, over 500 of which still exist? That the Industrial Revolution in the US was financed with wealth derived directly or indirectly from slave labor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just suppose… that every single African American high school senior in California claimed to be a descendent of slaves and then had “priority” (which doesn’t mean guaranteed admission) in their application. African Americans are 6% of California’s population.
About 28% of African Americans over age 25 have a four year degree. So let’s say this giant prioritizing increases that to 50% (unlikely anytime soon) in the next generation. That means a whopping 3% of students in the Cal state systems might be African American. If they are able to remain for four years( hard with economic challenges and some will come from poorer high schools).
Mercy!
Tiny price for reparations. Probably would turn out to do a lot of good… social and economic. If it passes, it will have far less effect on the people fearing this than they think.

This x10000. I am so sick of hyper competitive white and Asian people freaking out that Junior didn’t get a spot he must be entitled to get. Junior will be perfectly fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just suppose… that every single African American high school senior in California claimed to be a descendent of slaves and then had “priority” (which doesn’t mean guaranteed admission) in their application. African Americans are 6% of California’s population.
About 28% of African Americans over age 25 have a four year degree. So let’s say this giant prioritizing increases that to 50% (unlikely anytime soon) in the next generation. That means a whopping 3% of students in the Cal state systems might be African American. If they are able to remain for four years( hard with economic challenges and some will come from poorer high schools).
Mercy!
Tiny price for reparations. Probably would turn out to do a lot of good… social and economic. If it passes, it will have far less effect on the people fearing this than they think.

This x10000. I am so sick of hyper competitive white and Asian people freaking out that Junior didn’t get a spot he must be entitled to get. Junior will be perfectly fine.

Who is entitled? You're so used to stealing. That's an entitlement too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just suppose… that every single African American high school senior in California claimed to be a descendent of slaves and then had “priority” (which doesn’t mean guaranteed admission) in their application. African Americans are 6% of California’s population.
About 28% of African Americans over age 25 have a four year degree. So let’s say this giant prioritizing increases that to 50% (unlikely anytime soon) in the next generation. That means a whopping 3% of students in the Cal state systems might be African American. If they are able to remain for four years( hard with economic challenges and some will come from poorer high schools).
Mercy!
Tiny price for reparations. Probably would turn out to do a lot of good… social and economic. If it passes, it will have far less effect on the people fearing this than they think.

This x10000. I am so sick of hyper competitive white and Asian people freaking out that Junior didn’t get a spot he must be entitled to get. Junior will be perfectly fine.

Who is entitled? You're so used to stealing. That's an entitlement too!

What does this even mean? Whose stealing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just suppose… that every single African American high school senior in California claimed to be a descendent of slaves and then had “priority” (which doesn’t mean guaranteed admission) in their application. African Americans are 6% of California’s population.
About 28% of African Americans over age 25 have a four year degree. So let’s say this giant prioritizing increases that to 50% (unlikely anytime soon) in the next generation. That means a whopping 3% of students in the Cal state systems might be African American. If they are able to remain for four years( hard with economic challenges and some will come from poorer high schools).
Mercy!
Tiny price for reparations. Probably would turn out to do a lot of good… social and economic. If it passes, it will have far less effect on the people fearing this than they think.

This x10000. I am so sick of hyper competitive white and Asian people freaking out that Junior didn’t get a spot he must be entitled to get. Junior will be perfectly fine.

Who is entitled? You're so used to stealing. That's an entitlement too!

What does this even mean? Whose stealing?

It means you take something that is not yours without permission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just suppose… that every single African American high school senior in California claimed to be a descendent of slaves and then had “priority” (which doesn’t mean guaranteed admission) in their application. African Americans are 6% of California’s population.
About 28% of African Americans over age 25 have a four year degree. So let’s say this giant prioritizing increases that to 50% (unlikely anytime soon) in the next generation. That means a whopping 3% of students in the Cal state systems might be African American. If they are able to remain for four years( hard with economic challenges and some will come from poorer high schools).
Mercy!
Tiny price for reparations. Probably would turn out to do a lot of good… social and economic. If it passes, it will have far less effect on the people fearing this than they think.

This x10000. I am so sick of hyper competitive white and Asian people freaking out that Junior didn’t get a spot he must be entitled to get. Junior will be perfectly fine.

Who is entitled? You're so used to stealing. That's an entitlement too!

What does this even mean? Whose stealing?

It means you take something that is not yours without permission.

Who is doing that? I'm not who you responded to. You just randomly accused a mythical you person of stealing. It's weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just suppose… that every single African American high school senior in California claimed to be a descendent of slaves and then had “priority” (which doesn’t mean guaranteed admission) in their application. African Americans are 6% of California’s population.
About 28% of African Americans over age 25 have a four year degree. So let’s say this giant prioritizing increases that to 50% (unlikely anytime soon) in the next generation. That means a whopping 3% of students in the Cal state systems might be African American. If they are able to remain for four years( hard with economic challenges and some will come from poorer high schools).
Mercy!
Tiny price for reparations. Probably would turn out to do a lot of good… social and economic. If it passes, it will have far less effect on the people fearing this than they think.

This x10000. I am so sick of hyper competitive white and Asian people freaking out that Junior didn’t get a spot he must be entitled to get. Junior will be perfectly fine.

Who is entitled? You're so used to stealing. That's an entitlement too!

What does this even mean? Whose stealing?

It means you take something that is not yours without permission.

Who is doing that? I'm not who you responded to. You just randomly accused a mythical you person of stealing. It's weird.

Whoever trying to steal the opportunities/taxpayer's dollar.

[Anonymous]

I like this idea better than reparations. It’s actually beneficial to the economy.