Deportation impact

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Anonymous wrote:From ChatGPT:

Summary of Deportations by President:
President Deportations (Approx.)
George H.W. Bush 1.3 million
Bill Clinton 12.5 million
George W. Bush 10.3 million
Barack Obama 3 million
Donald Trump 2.4 million
Joe Biden (2021-2024) Ongoing (approx. 1.2 million by 2024)

I’ll be surprised if deportations under Trump surpass Obama’s record. And who knew Clinton was deporter in chief. I predict something close to Biden’s numbers over the next four years. There are simply too many legal issues around deportations and Trump will be blocked.

The real solution is hiring more immigration judges for hearings. But people forget about that.

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Anonymous wrote:If the deportations happen, and I suspect they won't at least not in the way Trump is claiming, we'll see American citizen kids being traumatically separated from their parents, and bringing that trauma into classrooms. We'll see teenagers who aren't being parented, because their parents are gone, and thus an increase in gang activity.

Plus our economy will tank without a segment of the labor force, so there will be less money for schools and classroom ratios will go through the roof.

They can just take their kids with them. Wouldnt that make more sense than abandonment?

Most of the kids are US citizens, so it makes more sense for them to stay here than to return to a country they've never before seen. Except instead of having parents who are sometimes overwhelmed by working three jobs at the chicken plant, now these kids will have no parents and be left with neighbors and relatives. Even if your only metric is how this impacts schools, it's still bad because those kids are still here but they are just unparented.

I'm not the poster you quoted.

Why would that make more sense? US citizen children move to countries "they've never before seen" all the time when their parents move for jobs. Their parents are with them.

Is this the choice you’d make for your own kids if it meant moving them to a country where their life/safety was threatened? I’ve seen the lengths DCUM parents will go to just to give their kids a leg up on college admission or a travel team. You really have no clue what life is like for others and zero compassion.

Yeah, think about those pictures of parents handing babies away to try to get them to safety when Saigon fell or Kabul. Or the kindertransport. People will turn their kids over to CPS before taking them back to some of these countries.

The idea of raiding churches instead of raiding busienesses is so perverse. So Tyson chicken can continue to employe all the undocumented workers it needs, but if they dare leave their house to go to church or school, ICE may catch them. They should mandate e verify and catch all these employers that are employing undocumented workers illegally. Then punish the employers, not the people being exploited.

Are you compassionate enough to send your kids to the heavily impacted schools?

The bigger problem is that the world has an endless supply of poor people that would like to be here. We can't take them all. Better for those places to be start changing. I know, that is hard, but it is the only long term solution.

My kids went/go to school with lots of ESL kids. They took/take AAP/honors classes and eventually will take IB classes. ESL learners are not in those classes but even outside of those classes, no my kids have not been impacted bc they are surrounded by kids who are academically inclined. They have had a few disruptive American kids in classes here and there throughout the years. I can’t tell if the parents yapping about the horrible illegals and their impact are a) parents whose kids are not actually in heavily impacted schools but think those schools are full of gang bangers OR b) parents with mediocre/average kids who rather blame immigrants than say, parenting for certain issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will get better more money for the smaller population, estimates show about 30-40% of fcps is illegal immigrants or their offspring

Provide a source for this ridiculous estimate. I’m so tired of the BS the right spews.

Using the updated data indicating that 46% of Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) students are economically disadvantaged, we can refine and increase the estimated percentage of undocumented students. Nationally, undocumented immigrant families are disproportionately represented among low-income households due to barriers to employment and social services. With nearly half of FCPS students living in poverty, it’s reasonable to assume a stronger correlation between economic disadvantage and undocumented status in this population.

Additionally, 27.4% of FCPS students are Hispanic, and 24.4% are in ESOL programs—groups that nationally correlate strongly with undocumented populations. Combining these factors with Fairfax County’s immigrant-friendly policies, which likely make the area a destination for undocumented families, the percentage of undocumented students could be significantly higher than the national average of 7%. Given the high poverty rates and the demographics of FCPS, a revised estimate places the percentage of undocumented students in the range of 15-20%, reflecting the confluence of economic disadvantage, ESOL enrollment, and immigrant demographics. This higher estimate accounts for local factors unique to Fairfax County but remains speculative due to the lack of direct data.

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Anonymous wrote:If the deportations happen, and I suspect they won't at least not in the way Trump is claiming, we'll see American citizen kids being traumatically separated from their parents, and bringing that trauma into classrooms. We'll see teenagers who aren't being parented, because their parents are gone, and thus an increase in gang activity.

Plus our economy will tank without a segment of the labor force, so there will be less money for schools and classroom ratios will go through the roof.

They can just take their kids with them. Wouldnt that make more sense than abandonment?

Most of the kids are US citizens, so it makes more sense for them to stay here than to return to a country they've never before seen. Except instead of having parents who are sometimes overwhelmed by working three jobs at the chicken plant, now these kids will have no parents and be left with neighbors and relatives. Even if your only metric is how this impacts schools, it's still bad because those kids are still here but they are just unparented.

I'm not the poster you quoted.

Why would that make more sense? US citizen children move to countries "they've never before seen" all the time when their parents move for jobs. Their parents are with them.

Is this the choice you’d make for your own kids if it meant moving them to a country where their life/safety was threatened? I’ve seen the lengths DCUM parents will go to just to give their kids a leg up on college admission or a travel team. You really have no clue what life is like for others and zero compassion.

Yeah, think about those pictures of parents handing babies away to try to get them to safety when Saigon fell or Kabul. Or the kindertransport. People will turn their kids over to CPS before taking them back to some of these countries.

The idea of raiding churches instead of raiding busienesses is so perverse. So Tyson chicken can continue to employe all the undocumented workers it needs, but if they dare leave their house to go to church or school, ICE may catch them. They should mandate e verify and catch all these employers that are employing undocumented workers illegally. Then punish the employers, not the people being exploited.

Are you compassionate enough to send your kids to the heavily impacted schools?

The bigger problem is that the world has an endless supply of poor people that would like to be here. We can't take them all. Better for those places to be start changing. I know, that is hard, but it is the only long term solution.

My kids went/go to school with lots of ESL kids. They took/take AAP/honors classes and eventually will take IB classes. ESL learners are not in those classes but even outside of those classes, no my kids have not been impacted bc they are surrounded by kids who are academically inclined. They have had a few disruptive American kids in classes here and there throughout the years. I can’t tell if the parents yapping about the horrible illegals and their impact are a) parents whose kids are not actually in heavily impacted schools but think those schools are full of gang bangers OR b) parents with mediocre/average kids who rather blame immigrants than say, parenting for certain issues.

Same. My kids also attended a school with immigrant kids, some probably without documentation, all ESL. My daughter's best friend was in this group. I teach, too, and based on 30 years of experience, I'd estimate that 95% of the kids who are problematic behaviorally or emotionally, are for sure American citizens. Yes, some very small percentage are or can be perhaps undocumented. But the great majority by a landslide? American kids. Why we aren't doing something about that, I do not understand.

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Anonymous wrote:If the deportations happen, and I suspect they won't at least not in the way Trump is claiming, we'll see American citizen kids being traumatically separated from their parents, and bringing that trauma into classrooms. We'll see teenagers who aren't being parented, because their parents are gone, and thus an increase in gang activity.

Plus our economy will tank without a segment of the labor force, so there will be less money for schools and classroom ratios will go through the roof.

They can just take their kids with them. Wouldnt that make more sense than abandonment?

Most of the kids are US citizens, so it makes more sense for them to stay here than to return to a country they've never before seen. Except instead of having parents who are sometimes overwhelmed by working three jobs at the chicken plant, now these kids will have no parents and be left with neighbors and relatives. Even if your only metric is how this impacts schools, it's still bad because those kids are still here but they are just unparented.

I'm not the poster you quoted.

Why would that make more sense? US citizen children move to countries "they've never before seen" all the time when their parents move for jobs. Their parents are with them.

Is this the choice you’d make for your own kids if it meant moving them to a country where their life/safety was threatened? I’ve seen the lengths DCUM parents will go to just to give their kids a leg up on college admission or a travel team. You really have no clue what life is like for others and zero compassion.

Yeah, think about those pictures of parents handing babies away to try to get them to safety when Saigon fell or Kabul. Or the kindertransport. People will turn their kids over to CPS before taking them back to some of these countries.

The idea of raiding churches instead of raiding busienesses is so perverse. So Tyson chicken can continue to employe all the undocumented workers it needs, but if they dare leave their house to go to church or school, ICE may catch them. They should mandate e verify and catch all these employers that are employing undocumented workers illegally. Then punish the employers, not the people being exploited.

Are you compassionate enough to send your kids to the heavily impacted schools?

The bigger problem is that the world has an endless supply of poor people that would like to be here. We can't take them all. Better for those places to be start changing. I know, that is hard, but it is the only long term solution.

My kids went/go to school with lots of ESL kids. They took/take AAP/honors classes and eventually will take IB classes. ESL learners are not in those classes but even outside of those classes, no my kids have not been impacted bc they are surrounded by kids who are academically inclined. They have had a few disruptive American kids in classes here and there throughout the years. I can’t tell if the parents yapping about the horrible illegals and their impact are a) parents whose kids are not actually in heavily impacted schools but think those schools are full of gang bangers OR b) parents with mediocre/average kids who rather blame immigrants than say, parenting for certain issues.

Well the first part of your post explains why you have no idea what you're talking about. The AAP kids go to school in a bubble that make it easy to not know what kids in non AAP classes have to deal with. Try not to comment on things that you have no experience with.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach in a Title 1 school with many Hispanic students. If their parents are deported, many will return. There are zero opportunities for them in their own countries and/or they are scared for their lives.

I think Trump will deport the criminals who are here illegally but that will be it. Our economy would suffer big time without immigrants to do the jobs Americans won’t touch.

You do know that most of these jobs can either be automated (like meat packing or produce picking) or the wages will rise until people do take the jobs. Real wages rose under the first Trump administration. You need to have labor shortages or nothing will ever change, including forcing improvements to the educational system. When we keep importing people to work for low wages, that keeps wages low for all unskilled workers, and when we can just replace our citizens with educated workers from India and China, there is no incentive to improve our own educational system. Both are losers for actual Americans, which is why he won.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach in a Title 1 school with many Hispanic students. If their parents are deported, many will return. There are zero opportunities for them in their own countries and/or they are scared for their lives.

I think Trump will deport the criminals who are here illegally but that will be it. Our economy would suffer big time without immigrants to do the jobs Americans won’t touch.

I had 2 deported last year and their parents were criminals. I was told they can never come back.

Yes, criminals were already being deported. The American people voted for a much larger effort to deport more illegal residents, and some support going after naturalized and birthright citizens too (if they agree with Stephen Miller). Whether or no Trump can find the billions of dollars necessary to do this and the competence (when he didn’t even build his wall last term) remains to be seen.

I recently looked up how much wall was built and the most factual answer seemed to be about 50 new miles and 450 renovated. After all that jawing.

Well, given that he was sued at every turn and was given no money, that was actually OK. And then, the government purchased wall materials with defense dollars and Biden left them to rust in big piles.

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Anonymous wrote:Low impact. Trump just said those things to pander to the white supremacist supporters. He’s only wants to build more money for himself and that’s how he’s going to preside. Get richer by any means necessary.

All those brown white supremacists down around the Rio Grande that went for Trump, am I right?

DP. Obviously, you're just being stupidly sarcastic, but in fact - the largest number of Hispanic voters who went for Trump are located around the Rio Grande Valley. Why? Because they're Americans who are sick to death of illegal immigration. Deal with it.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-turns-americas-most-hispanic-county-red-rio-grande-valley-texas-f7bf0385?st=SzNM75&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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Anonymous wrote:I teach in a Title 1 school with many Hispanic students. If their parents are deported, many will return. There are zero opportunities for them in their own countries and/or they are scared for their lives.

I think Trump will deport the criminals who are here illegally but that will be it. Our economy would suffer big time without immigrants to do the jobs Americans won’t touch.

I had 2 deported last year and their parents were criminals. I was told they can never come back.

Yes, criminals were already being deported. The American people voted for a much larger effort to deport more illegal residents, and some support going after naturalized and birthright citizens too (if they agree with Stephen Miller). Whether or no Trump can find the billions of dollars necessary to do this and the competence (when he didn’t even build his wall last term) remains to be seen.

I recently looked up how much wall was built and the most factual answer seemed to be about 50 new miles and 450 renovated. After all that jawing.

Well, given that he was sued at every turn and was given no money, that was actually OK. And then, the government purchased wall materials with defense dollars and Biden left them to rust in big piles.

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And then, lo and behold, Mayorkas and Biden decided, "Gee, we really DO need that wall after all!" Complete idiots.
https://apnews.com/article/border-wall-biden-immigration-texas-rio-grande-147d7ab497e6991e9ea929242f21ceb2

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Anonymous wrote:If the deportations happen, and I suspect they won't at least not in the way Trump is claiming, we'll see American citizen kids being traumatically separated from their parents, and bringing that trauma into classrooms. We'll see teenagers who aren't being parented, because their parents are gone, and thus an increase in gang activity.

Plus our economy will tank without a segment of the labor force, so there will be less money for schools and classroom ratios will go through the roof.

They can just take their kids with them. Wouldnt that make more sense than abandonment?

Most of the kids are US citizens, so it makes more sense for them to stay here than to return to a country they've never before seen. Except instead of having parents who are sometimes overwhelmed by working three jobs at the chicken plant, now these kids will have no parents and be left with neighbors and relatives. Even if your only metric is how this impacts schools, it's still bad because those kids are still here but they are just unparented.

I'm not the poster you quoted.

Why would that make more sense? US citizen children move to countries "they've never before seen" all the time when their parents move for jobs. Their parents are with them.

Is this the choice you’d make for your own kids if it meant moving them to a country where their life/safety was threatened? I’ve seen the lengths DCUM parents will go to just to give their kids a leg up on college admission or a travel team. You really have no clue what life is like for others and zero compassion.

Yeah, think about those pictures of parents handing babies away to try to get them to safety when Saigon fell or Kabul. Or the kindertransport. People will turn their kids over to CPS before taking them back to some of these countries.

The idea of raiding churches instead of raiding busienesses is so perverse. So Tyson chicken can continue to employe all the undocumented workers it needs, but if they dare leave their house to go to church or school, ICE may catch them. They should mandate e verify and catch all these employers that are employing undocumented workers illegally. Then punish the employers, not the people being exploited.

Are you compassionate enough to send your kids to the heavily impacted schools?

The bigger problem is that the world has an endless supply of poor people that would like to be here. We can't take them all. Better for those places to be start changing. I know, that is hard, but it is the only long term solution.

My kids went/go to school with lots of ESL kids. They took/take AAP/honors classes and eventually will take IB classes. ESL learners are not in those classes but even outside of those classes, no my kids have not been impacted bc they are surrounded by kids who are academically inclined. They have had a few disruptive American kids in classes here and there throughout the years. I can’t tell if the parents yapping about the horrible illegals and their impact are a) parents whose kids are not actually in heavily impacted schools but think those schools are full of gang bangers OR b) parents with mediocre/average kids who rather blame immigrants than say, parenting for certain issues.

Well the first part of your post explains why you have no idea what you're talking about. The AAP kids go to school in a bubble that make it easy to not know what kids in non AAP classes have to deal with. Try not to comment on things that you have no experience with.

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My jaw actually dropped at the utter cluelessness of the PP. JFC.

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Anonymous wrote:If the deportations happen, and I suspect they won't at least not in the way Trump is claiming, we'll see American citizen kids being traumatically separated from their parents, and bringing that trauma into classrooms. We'll see teenagers who aren't being parented, because their parents are gone, and thus an increase in gang activity.

Plus our economy will tank without a segment of the labor force, so there will be less money for schools and classroom ratios will go through the roof.

They can just take their kids with them. Wouldnt that make more sense than abandonment?

Most of the kids are US citizens, so it makes more sense for them to stay here than to return to a country they've never before seen. Except instead of having parents who are sometimes overwhelmed by working three jobs at the chicken plant, now these kids will have no parents and be left with neighbors and relatives. Even if your only metric is how this impacts schools, it's still bad because those kids are still here but they are just unparented.

I'm not the poster you quoted.

Why would that make more sense? US citizen children move to countries "they've never before seen" all the time when their parents move for jobs. Their parents are with them.

Is this the choice you’d make for your own kids if it meant moving them to a country where their life/safety was threatened? I’ve seen the lengths DCUM parents will go to just to give their kids a leg up on college admission or a travel team. You really have no clue what life is like for others and zero compassion.

Yeah, think about those pictures of parents handing babies away to try to get them to safety when Saigon fell or Kabul. Or the kindertransport. People will turn their kids over to CPS before taking them back to some of these countries.

The idea of raiding churches instead of raiding busienesses is so perverse. So Tyson chicken can continue to employe all the undocumented workers it needs, but if they dare leave their house to go to church or school, ICE may catch them. They should mandate e verify and catch all these employers that are employing undocumented workers illegally. Then punish the employers, not the people being exploited.

Are you compassionate enough to send your kids to the heavily impacted schools?

The bigger problem is that the world has an endless supply of poor people that would like to be here. We can't take them all. Better for those places to be start changing. I know, that is hard, but it is the only long term solution.

My kids went/go to school with lots of ESL kids. They took/take AAP/honors classes and eventually will take IB classes. ESL learners are not in those classes but even outside of those classes, no my kids have not been impacted bc they are surrounded by kids who are academically inclined. They have had a few disruptive American kids in classes here and there throughout the years. I can’t tell if the parents yapping about the horrible illegals and their impact are a) parents whose kids are not actually in heavily impacted schools but think those schools are full of gang bangers OR b) parents with mediocre/average kids who rather blame immigrants than say, parenting for certain issues.

Well the first part of your post explains why you have no idea what you're talking about. The AAP kids go to school in a bubble that make it easy to not know what kids in non AAP classes have to deal with. Try not to comment on things that you have no experience with.

I agree with everything this poster said and my local level IV AAP child is in Spanish immersion which means half of her day is with at least 50% ESL kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools will get better more money for the smaller population, estimates show about 30-40% of fcps is illegal immigrants or their offspring

Provide a source for this ridiculous estimate. I’m so tired of the BS the right spews.

Using the updated data indicating that 46% of Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) students are economically disadvantaged, we can refine and increase the estimated percentage of undocumented students. Nationally, undocumented immigrant families are disproportionately represented among low-income households due to barriers to employment and social services. With nearly half of FCPS students living in poverty, it’s reasonable to assume a stronger correlation between economic disadvantage and undocumented status in this population.

Additionally, 27.4% of FCPS students are Hispanic, and 24.4% are in ESOL programs—groups that nationally correlate strongly with undocumented populations. Combining these factors with Fairfax County’s immigrant-friendly policies, which likely make the area a destination for undocumented families, the percentage of undocumented students could be significantly higher than the national average of 7%. Given the high poverty rates and the demographics of FCPS, a revised estimate places the percentage of undocumented students in the range of 15-20%, reflecting the confluence of economic disadvantage, ESOL enrollment, and immigrant demographics. This higher estimate accounts for local factors unique to Fairfax County but remains speculative due to the lack of direct data.

So you have absolutely no source. You just conjured up numbers based on a bunch of assumptions layered over other assumptions.

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Anonymous wrote:Low impact. Trump just said those things to pander to the white supremacist supporters. He’s only wants to build more money for himself and that’s how he’s going to preside. Get richer by any means necessary.

All those brown white supremacists down around the Rio Grande that went for Trump, am I right?

DP. Obviously, you're just being stupidly sarcastic, but in fact - the largest number of Hispanic voters who went for Trump are located around the Rio Grande Valley. Why? Because they're Americans who are sick to death of illegal immigration. Deal with it.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-turns-americas-most-hispanic-county-red-rio-grande-valley-texas-f7bf0385?st=SzNM75&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Then they voted for the wrong guy. Trump is the one who killed the bipartisanship border bill that the border agents supported. All because he doesn’t want to fix the problem- he wants to keep it as a political tool. He had four years and did nothing except take pictures of a tiny portion of wall that he had built. Meanwhile there were more pictures of people scaling and bending his new wall bits.

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Anonymous wrote:If the deportations happen, and I suspect they won't at least not in the way Trump is claiming, we'll see American citizen kids being traumatically separated from their parents, and bringing that trauma into classrooms. We'll see teenagers who aren't being parented, because their parents are gone, and thus an increase in gang activity.

Plus our economy will tank without a segment of the labor force, so there will be less money for schools and classroom ratios will go through the roof.

They can just take their kids with them. Wouldnt that make more sense than abandonment?

Most of the kids are US citizens, so it makes more sense for them to stay here than to return to a country they've never before seen. Except instead of having parents who are sometimes overwhelmed by working three jobs at the chicken plant, now these kids will have no parents and be left with neighbors and relatives. Even if your only metric is how this impacts schools, it's still bad because those kids are still here but they are just unparented.

I'm not the poster you quoted.

Why would that make more sense? US citizen children move to countries "they've never before seen" all the time when their parents move for jobs. Their parents are with them.

Is this the choice you’d make for your own kids if it meant moving them to a country where their life/safety was threatened? I’ve seen the lengths DCUM parents will go to just to give their kids a leg up on college admission or a travel team. You really have no clue what life is like for others and zero compassion.

Yeah, think about those pictures of parents handing babies away to try to get them to safety when Saigon fell or Kabul. Or the kindertransport. People will turn their kids over to CPS before taking them back to some of these countries.

The idea of raiding churches instead of raiding busienesses is so perverse. So Tyson chicken can continue to employe all the undocumented workers it needs, but if they dare leave their house to go to church or school, ICE may catch them. They should mandate e verify and catch all these employers that are employing undocumented workers illegally. Then punish the employers, not the people being exploited.

Are you compassionate enough to send your kids to the heavily impacted schools?

The bigger problem is that the world has an endless supply of poor people that would like to be here. We can't take them all. Better for those places to be start changing. I know, that is hard, but it is the only long term solution.

My kids went/go to school with lots of ESL kids. They took/take AAP/honors classes and eventually will take IB classes. ESL learners are not in those classes but even outside of those classes, no my kids have not been impacted bc they are surrounded by kids who are academically inclined. They have had a few disruptive American kids in classes here and there throughout the years. I can’t tell if the parents yapping about the horrible illegals and their impact are a) parents whose kids are not actually in heavily impacted schools but think those schools are full of gang bangers OR b) parents with mediocre/average kids who rather blame immigrants than say, parenting for certain issues.

Well the first part of your post explains why you have no idea what you're talking about. The AAP kids go to school in a bubble that make it easy to not know what kids in non AAP classes have to deal with. Try not to comment on things that you have no experience with.

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My jaw actually dropped at the utter cluelessness of the PP. JFC.

Can you explain to the clueless parents how the ESL kids are ruining it for your gen ed kids? I would think the behavioral issues not ESL issues would be more problematic like the PP teacher said.

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Anonymous wrote:Low impact. Trump just said those things to pander to the white supremacist supporters. He’s only wants to build more money for himself and that’s how he’s going to preside. Get richer by any means necessary.

All those brown white supremacists down around the Rio Grande that went for Trump, am I right?

DP. Obviously, you're just being stupidly sarcastic, but in fact - the largest number of Hispanic voters who went for Trump are located around the Rio Grande Valley. Why? Because they're Americans who are sick to death of illegal immigration. Deal with it.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-turns-americas-most-hispanic-county-red-rio-grande-valley-texas-f7bf0385?st=SzNM75&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Then they voted for the wrong guy. Trump is the one who killed the bipartisanship border bill that the border agents supported. All because he doesn’t want to fix the problem- he wants to keep it as a political tool. He had four years and did nothing except take pictures of a tiny portion of wall that he had built. Meanwhile there were more pictures of people scaling and bending his new wall bits.

I love the way you deliberately ignore the Biden/Harris culpability here. Upon taking office in 2021, Joe Biden reversed all of Trump's border EOs. He then presided over 3.5 years of unprecedented, MASSIVE illegal immigration, saying there was nothing he could do *shrug*. Even Mayorkas strongly advised him to continue building the wall. Finally, under immense pressure by Americans across the political spectrum, Biden signed his own EO, which almost immediately cut border numbers dramatically. Why did he wait 3 1/2 years to do this? You'll never answer this question, so I'll help you out. Because this being an election year, he realized he'd better do something to help the Democrats win! Except it didn't help them at all. Americans saw right through the gaslighting.

I don't know what Trump will be able to do with the border, but I sincerely hope he does whatever he can to secure it. At least he won't be gaslighting American citizens that there's "nothing to see here" and the "border is secure."