What do we tell our sons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You tell your sons that these men in power say education isn't that important but they both went to ivy league schools so they are simply lying.

It is you who is lying, PP.

Tell the truth. They did not say education isn’t important.

President Trump and VPOTUS Vance have rightly criticized the CURRENT state of the Ivy League institutions they attended.

For example: the arguably number one university in the U.S.A., Harvard, was led by President Gay, who:

- accumulated a pathetically scant eight published, peer-reviewed papers,
- her eight papers were on the dividing topic of “DIE” - diversity
- most of them were plagiarized

Lets not try to say they brought honor to those institutions themselves or that Trump even had the grades for it. The people they support are definitely against higher education and they support them in this stance and they are actively trying to dismantle education in the US at all levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The same thing that I’m telling my teen daughters. The country has a lot of not smart people and they get to vote too. Do well in school, get a good job, marry well and stay above it all.

The waters keep rising and it's harder and harder to stay above while you let them eat cake. Living at the top of heap isn't so pretty when it's a heap of garbage.

[Anonymous]

If you are Christian you can share this video that describes what is going on in politics. Don't live in hate even for people who are against you. Live the life of your own calling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxbQuIAdN8Y

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You tell your sons that these men in power say education isn't that important but they both went to ivy league schools so they are simply lying.

It is you who is lying, PP.

Tell the truth. They did not say education isn’t important.

President Trump and VPOTUS Vance have rightly criticized the CURRENT state of the Ivy League institutions they attended.

For example: the arguably number one university in the U.S.A., Harvard, was led by President Gay, who:

- accumulated a pathetically scant eight published, peer-reviewed papers,
- her eight papers were on the dividing topic of “DIE” - diversity
- most of them were plagiarized

A University President has an administrative job, not an active scholar job.

Let's go back 35 years to President Rudenstine, when men were men. He had no notable academic achievement. But for some reason it was OK when he did it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Rudenstine

Gay's plagiarism was in the boilerplate technically explanation of how to read statistics, not her research

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You tell your sons that these men in power say education isn't that important but they both went to ivy league schools so they are simply lying.

It is you who is lying, PP.

Tell the truth. They did not say education isn’t important.

President Trump and VPOTUS Vance have rightly criticized the CURRENT state of the Ivy League institutions they attended.

For example: the arguably number one university in the U.S.A., Harvard, was led by President Gay, who:

- accumulated a pathetically scant eight published, peer-reviewed papers,
- her eight papers were on the dividing topic of “DIE” - diversity
- most of them were plagiarized

A University President has an administrative job, not an active scholar job.

Let's go back 35 years to President Rudenstine, when men were men. He had no notable academic achievement. But for some reason it was OK when he did it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Rudenstine

Gay's plagiarism was in the boilerplate technically explanation of how to read statistics, not her research

You're defending plagiarism for the leader of a leading educational institution. You're putting politics above values like truth.

The fact is Gay was never qualified to teach anywhere, let alone at Harvard. She had to cheat to create a fig leaf of academic achievement to justify her unearned promotion to Harvard President.

[Anonymous]

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The same thing that I’m telling my teen daughters. The country has a lot of not smart people and they get to vote too. Do well in school, get a good job, marry well and stay above it all.

The waters keep rising and it's harder and harder to stay above while you let them eat cake. Living at the top of heap isn't so pretty when it's a heap of garbage.

PP here. While I agree with this I'm unclear what I can do to change that. Thankfully between inheritance from our parents plus what we will add to it when we die, our kids and grandkids and hopefully great grandkids should all be fine if they don't squander it. That's all I can do (plus keep voting for who I think has the right message.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The same thing that I’m telling my teen daughters. The country has a lot of not smart people and they get to vote too. Do well in school, get a good job, marry well and stay above it all.

So you’re telling your kids that your view is the only smart one? Anyone that disagrees with you, it’s because they are just too stupid? I bet your kids see through that.

My kids can plainly see that Trump is a horrible, despicable excuse for a human being and that no one with any sense or morals would vote for him. They share their confusion with people from most other countries in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did your parents tell their sons when Bill Clinton had sex with a 21 year old intern in the white house, lied about it under oath, and was left to complete his term?

What did they tell them when Hillary Clinton was discussing bringing young men committing crimes in New York "to heel"?

What did they tell them when "Three Strikes" resulted in young men spending 25 years in prison when their third strike/ offense was stealing food?

I don't even know the last two. They hardly made the news and the third one I don't see related to the presidency.

On the first one OMG I heard about how awful Clinton was for that for a good 20 years from the Trumper in my family and how he brought down the morality of the white house. What I feel is different there is that Clinton wasn't talking openly about this to where you kept having to tell a child these werent beliefs to follow and it really was a setup by the right so the right with Ken Starr seemed just as slimy to me even as a young adult. And it happened in office not before and he was impeached because of it. So it wasn't like you had to say to a child he got away with this. There were consequences. With Trump people simply do not care about his misdeeds and write them off even before electing him. Just the other day I heard him talk about merging up with some potties after a speech. He just does it with abandon now and those same people who were after Clinton totally do not care now. Total hypocrites.

He is reading the room. People don't care because they are tired of having to filter through politics to understand what a politician is claiming they can offer.

Whatever. I totally lost respect for my republican family member after going on decades long tirade about Clinton's immorality only to ignore Trump's immorality and then later go off on Pelosi as evil only to find out that she didn't care one whit about how Pelosi only got her job after a decades long pedophile Dennis Hastert had to step down. How often do you hear about him disgracing the office? It turned me against any of her fake morality issues from then on. Now of course she thinks the democrats are the house of pedophiles despite Trump hanging with Epstein and believed that stupid Christian movie that came out on catching predators without looking up the truth on it all the while never speaking up about the ones of her political party or church. Hypocrites. It's just hating like hating a team. There is no actual morality behind these things. It's just evil actually and narcissistic trying to make others out to be evil who don't have the same labels as themselves. It's really just all about themselves. Not policy. Not morals. I tell my son some people want a label to make themselves look moral and American and make others look bad but its better to act moral and live by American values yourself.

American Evangelical Christianity has reduced itself to a partisan political party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did your parents tell their sons when Bill Clinton had sex with a 21 year old intern in the white house, lied about it under oath, and was left to complete his term?

What did they tell them when Hillary Clinton was discussing bringing young men committing crimes in New York "to heel"?

What did they tell them when "Three Strikes" resulted in young men spending 25 years in prison when their third strike/ offense was stealing food?

I don't even know the last two. They hardly made the news and the third one I don't see related to the presidency.

On the first one OMG I heard about how awful Clinton was for that for a good 20 years from the Trumper in my family and how he brought down the morality of the white house. What I feel is different there is that Clinton wasn't talking openly about this to where you kept having to tell a child these werent beliefs to follow and it really was a setup by the right so the right with Ken Starr seemed just as slimy to me even as a young adult. And it happened in office not before and he was impeached because of it. So it wasn't like you had to say to a child he got away with this. There were consequences. With Trump people simply do not care about his misdeeds and write them off even before electing him. Just the other day I heard him talk about merging up with some potties after a speech. He just does it with abandon now and those same people who were after Clinton totally do not care now. Total hypocrites.

He is reading the room. People don't care because they are tired of having to filter through politics to understand what a politician is claiming they can offer.

Whatever. I totally lost respect for my republican family member after going on decades long tirade about Clinton's immorality only to ignore Trump's immorality and then later go off on Pelosi as evil only to find out that she didn't care one whit about how Pelosi only got her job after a decades long pedophile Dennis Hastert had to step down. How often do you hear about him disgracing the office? It turned me against any of her fake morality issues from then on. Now of course she thinks the democrats are the house of pedophiles despite Trump hanging with Epstein and believed that stupid Christian movie that came out on catching predators without looking up the truth on it all the while never speaking up about the ones of her political party or church. Hypocrites. It's just hating like hating a team. There is no actual morality behind these things. It's just evil actually and narcissistic trying to make others out to be evil who don't have the same labels as themselves. It's really just all about themselves. Not policy. Not morals. I tell my son some people want a label to make themselves look moral and American and make others look bad but its better to act moral and live by American values yourself.

American Evangelical Christianity has reduced itself to a partisan political party.

+100

Which is why Democrats need to pivot HARD to become the party that separates church and state. Actively pursue policies with this agenda - no more tax breaks for religious orgs, no more Catholic SC, no more religion in our politics. Many people who voted for Trump are not religious at all and are deeply uncomfortable with the level of power that radicalized hardright Protestants and Catholics have in his next Administration.

This is by far the biggest potential cleavage within Trump's motley crew that can be exploited. This country's electorate is rapidly rejecting religion in their personal lives.

[Anonymous]

Go to college abroad, and don’t come back here…. I’ll join you wherever you end up. Can’t be worse than this country.

[Anonymous]

All these pro Trumpers ignoring his many many immoral behaviors were absolutely beside themselves that Clinton had a consensual blow job with someone not his wife.

But Stormy Daniels? No problem. Grab em by the pussy? No problem. 3 wives? No problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did your parents tell their sons when Bill Clinton had sex with a 21 year old intern in the white house, lied about it under oath, and was left to complete his term?

What did they tell them when Hillary Clinton was discussing bringing young men committing crimes in New York "to heel"?

What did they tell them when "Three Strikes" resulted in young men spending 25 years in prison when their third strike/ offense was stealing food?

I don't even know the last two. They hardly made the news and the third one I don't see related to the presidency.

On the first one OMG I heard about how awful Clinton was for that for a good 20 years from the Trumper in my family and how he brought down the morality of the white house. What I feel is different there is that Clinton wasn't talking openly about this to where you kept having to tell a child these werent beliefs to follow and it really was a setup by the right so the right with Ken Starr seemed just as slimy to me even as a young adult. And it happened in office not before and he was impeached because of it. So it wasn't like you had to say to a child he got away with this. There were consequences. With Trump people simply do not care about his misdeeds and write them off even before electing him. Just the other day I heard him talk about merging up with some potties after a speech. He just does it with abandon now and those same people who were after Clinton totally do not care now. Total hypocrites.

He is reading the room. People don't care because they are tired of having to filter through politics to understand what a politician is claiming they can offer.

Whatever. I totally lost respect for my republican family member after going on decades long tirade about Clinton's immorality only to ignore Trump's immorality and then later go off on Pelosi as evil only to find out that she didn't care one whit about how Pelosi only got her job after a decades long pedophile Dennis Hastert had to step down. How often do you hear about him disgracing the office? It turned me against any of her fake morality issues from then on. Now of course she thinks the democrats are the house of pedophiles despite Trump hanging with Epstein and believed that stupid Christian movie that came out on catching predators without looking up the truth on it all the while never speaking up about the ones of her political party or church. Hypocrites. It's just hating like hating a team. There is no actual morality behind these things. It's just evil actually and narcissistic trying to make others out to be evil who don't have the same labels as themselves. It's really just all about themselves. Not policy. Not morals. I tell my son some people want a label to make themselves look moral and American and make others look bad but its better to act moral and live by American values yourself.

American Evangelical Christianity has reduced itself to a partisan political party.

+100

Which is why Democrats need to pivot HARD to become the party that separates church and state. Actively pursue policies with this agenda - no more tax breaks for religious orgs, no more Catholic SC, no more religion in our politics. Many people who voted for Trump are not religious at all and are deeply uncomfortable with the level of power that radicalized hardright Protestants and Catholics have in his next Administration.

This is by far the biggest potential cleavage within Trump's motley crew that can be exploited. This country's electorate is rapidly rejecting religion in their personal lives.

Disagree. How would this help anything or help your sons? Instead of religion they will have what to follow exactly? Politics? How does this relate to the topic about what to tell our sons? You want to tell your sons to follow politics instead of religion and give tax breaks instead to whom exactly? Why? Why wouldn't you teach them to actually do something good in the world and just beware of wolves in sheeps clothing.

Just because some people want to corrupt the government or religion does not make either inherently bad. I don't think the non-religious or the antigovernment is any more moral as a group than those that believe in government and religion. It's a person by person issue. They are just mechanisms where humans are working together on something and their flaws show as a group. These same flaws exist without religion and government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All these pro Trumpers ignoring his many many immoral behaviors were absolutely beside themselves that Clinton had a consensual blow job with someone not his wife.

But Stormy Daniels? No problem. Grab em by the pussy? No problem. 3 wives? No problem.

And affair partners that got pregnant while married where it was implied an abortion happened after.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All these pro Trumpers ignoring his many many immoral behaviors were absolutely beside themselves that Clinton had a consensual blow job with someone not his wife.

But Stormy Daniels? No problem. Grab em by the pussy? No problem. 3 wives? No problem.

Trump will go down and one of the greatest politicians and leaders of all time. And just like the rest of them, he has many moral and character flaws. Trump was elected for his command and leadership- that’s it. The rest is largely irrelevant.