"Is MCPS losing its edge?"

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Anonymous wrote:The article points out that at ALL MCPS schools, even in honor classes, there’s a lack of rigor, grade level assignments, and assigned books.

Even in AP classes! Look at your high school’s AP scores and you can easily see that. Very much a lack of rigor.

21 out 25 MCPS schools made the AP honor roll.
MCPS has an AP passing rate of over 70%.
How is it a lack of rigor?

And many, if not most AP courses have a total pass rate of 70% now, so this is nothing special.

The national AP passing rate is 52%

You are out-of-date... See last column...
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions

For about half of those courses have a pass rate below 70%. Even if they all had a 70% pass rate, isn’t that the point. For kids to take a class and demonstrate mastery of the content? It’s like you have a problem with kids and teachers being successful.

I personally wouldn’t count receiving a 3 on an AP test a success.

MCPS counts the score of 3 and above as a ‘success’. But I agree with you.

Yes - not surprising from the system that, just yesterday, publicly released the district's MCAP scores with a headline touting how they are the best in Maryland while glossing over the fact that MCPS scores have been declining year-over-year.

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Anonymous wrote:It never had an edge. They need to get back to basics.

It did in the 60s and 70s.

Homogeneous population.

Yes. The article could have had more discussion of this context. The FARMS rates have risen dramatically over the years.

Yes +1. I am a teacher and I also have had two kids graduate. Look, we have gone from a district where the majority of kids had college-educated, professional parents, to one that still has many of those parents but also many low-income, new immigrant parents. Some kids arrive in kindergarten reading chapter books because their parents have been teaching them since birth, and some kids arrive not even knowing their name because they’ve been taken care of by siblings and had no exposure to English. Of course these kids don’t “achieve” at the same rate.

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Anonymous wrote:It never had an edge. They need to get back to basics.

It did in the 60s and 70s.

Homogeneous population.

Yes. The article could have had more discussion of this context. The FARMS rates have risen dramatically over the years.

Yes +1. I am a teacher and I also have had two kids graduate. Look, we have gone from a district where the majority of kids had college-educated, professional parents, to one that still has many of those parents but also many low-income, new immigrant parents. Some kids arrive in kindergarten reading chapter books because their parents have been teaching them since birth, and some kids arrive not even knowing their name because they’ve been taken care of by siblings and had no exposure to English. Of course these kids don’t “achieve” at the same rate.

But MCPS also decided differentiation and tracking was "racist" so now we've decided the best thing to do is through all of those kids into the same classroom environment and hope for the best.

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Anonymous wrote:It never had an edge. They need to get back to basics.

It did in the 60s and 70s.

Homogeneous population.

Yes. The article could have had more discussion of this context. The FARMS rates have risen dramatically over the years.

Yes +1. I am a teacher and I also have had two kids graduate. Look, we have gone from a district where the majority of kids had college-educated, professional parents, to one that still has many of those parents but also many low-income, new immigrant parents. Some kids arrive in kindergarten reading chapter books because their parents have been teaching them since birth, and some kids arrive not even knowing their name because they’ve been taken care of by siblings and had no exposure to English. Of course these kids don’t “achieve” at the same rate.

Sure. But MCPS doesnt have to have grading policies that say that a 10th grader with a 99 and a 100 in the first and second semester and one with a 89.5 and 75 “achieved” the same A.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First of all only the top 2 W schools are the well regarded MCPS schools. MCPS overall was not uniformly good.

Second SAT and ACT scores are a combo of the students studying and parents paying for tutoring. So scores good or bad have little to do with the schools.

People love to roll out this generalization, but it is not true (perhaps in your household it is).

My student was never tutored, for pay or free.
He looked at the SAT paper booklet and did a free online review the evening prior to the exam.
Scored in the 1400's on his first try. Not excellent by DCUM standards, but pretty good for doing none of the above, as you imply.

My college friends who went to law school did this with the LSAT. They did no prep and scored in the high 90s percentile. One of them even went out for happy hour the night prior.

That was me…but I went to private school K-12 and was equipped with a solid education.

My kids are in mcps and I’ve watched the curriculum devolve to the lowest common denominator…which keeps declining at demographics continue to change.

Mcps has definitely fallen from grace. My friends and family who went to even the most mediocre mcps high schools back in the 80s and 90s received solid educations. But that’s simply not the case today.

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Anonymous wrote:It never had an edge. They need to get back to basics.

It did in the 60s and 70s.

Homogeneous population.

Yes. The article could have had more discussion of this context. The FARMS rates have risen dramatically over the years.

Yes +1. I am a teacher and I also have had two kids graduate. Look, we have gone from a district where the majority of kids had college-educated, professional parents, to one that still has many of those parents but also many low-income, new immigrant parents. Some kids arrive in kindergarten reading chapter books because their parents have been teaching them since birth, and some kids arrive not even knowing their name because they’ve been taken care of by siblings and had no exposure to English. Of course these kids don’t “achieve” at the same rate.

Sure. But MCPS doesnt have to have grading policies that say that a 10th grader with a 99 and a 100 in the first and second semester and one with a 89.5 and 75 “achieved” the same A.

Someone with an 89.5 and a 75 would have a B for the semester.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It never had an edge. They need to get back to basics.

It did in the 60s and 70s.

Homogeneous population.

Yes. The article could have had more discussion of this context. The FARMS rates have risen dramatically over the years.

Yes +1. I am a teacher and I also have had two kids graduate. Look, we have gone from a district where the majority of kids had college-educated, professional parents, to one that still has many of those parents but also many low-income, new immigrant parents. Some kids arrive in kindergarten reading chapter books because their parents have been teaching them since birth, and some kids arrive not even knowing their name because they’ve been taken care of by siblings and had no exposure to English. Of course these kids don’t “achieve” at the same rate.

Some of this also has to do with the push for play based preschool. We started in a play based preschool and I was volunteering that day and they were testing the older kids on the playground of their basics and I was shocked at how little some of these kids knew. The next year we switched ours out to an academic preschool and they went into school with a much better foundation. Plus we worked at home with them.

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Anonymous wrote:The article points out that at ALL MCPS schools, even in honor classes, there’s a lack of rigor, grade level assignments, and assigned books.

Even in AP classes! Look at your high school’s AP scores and you can easily see that. Very much a lack of rigor.

21 out 25 MCPS schools made the AP honor roll.
MCPS has an AP passing rate of over 70%.
How is it a lack of rigor?

And many, if not most AP courses have a total pass rate of 70% now, so this is nothing special.

The national AP passing rate is 52%

You are out-of-date... See last column...
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions

For about half of those courses have a pass rate below 70%. Even if they all had a 70% pass rate, isn’t that the point. For kids to take a class and demonstrate mastery of the content? It’s like you have a problem with kids and teachers being successful.

I personally wouldn’t count receiving a 3 on an AP test a success.

MCPS counts the score of 3 and above as a ‘success’. But I agree with you.

3 and above is in fact 'success', as per the college board.

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Anonymous wrote:The article points out that at ALL MCPS schools, even in honor classes, there’s a lack of rigor, grade level assignments, and assigned books.

Even in AP classes! Look at your high school’s AP scores and you can easily see that. Very much a lack of rigor.

21 out 25 MCPS schools made the AP honor roll.
MCPS has an AP passing rate of over 70%.
How is it a lack of rigor?

And many, if not most AP courses have a total pass rate of 70% now, so this is nothing special.

The national AP passing rate is 52%

You are out-of-date... See last column...
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions

For about half of those courses have a pass rate below 70%. Even if they all had a 70% pass rate, isn’t that the point. For kids to take a class and demonstrate mastery of the content? It’s like you have a problem with kids and teachers being successful.

I personally wouldn’t count receiving a 3 on an AP test a success.

MCPS counts the score of 3 and above as a ‘success’. But I agree with you.

Yes - not surprising from the system that, just yesterday, publicly released the district's MCAP scores with a headline touting how they are the best in Maryland while glossing over the fact that MCPS scores have been declining year-over-year.

Idiot, it's the college board that decides 3 and above as success. If you have a problem with that, take it with them.
Second, MCPS' MCAP scores have not been declining. This is an unproven test that is only 3 years old.
You would think these private schools parents would be smarter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It never had an edge. They need to get back to basics.

It did in the 60s and 70s.

Homogeneous population.

Yes. The article could have had more discussion of this context. The FARMS rates have risen dramatically over the years.

Yes +1. I am a teacher and I also have had two kids graduate. Look, we have gone from a district where the majority of kids had college-educated, professional parents, to one that still has many of those parents but also many low-income, new immigrant parents. Some kids arrive in kindergarten reading chapter books because their parents have been teaching them since birth, and some kids arrive not even knowing their name because they’ve been taken care of by siblings and had no exposure to English. Of course these kids don’t “achieve” at the same rate.

Sure. But MCPS doesnt have to have grading policies that say that a 10th grader with a 99 and a 100 in the first and second semester and one with a 89.5 and 75 “achieved” the same A.

Even as a troll, you fail miserably.
You're so dumb that you cannot even troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Demographics are destiny.

Import the third world, become the third world. Not sure what people expect.

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Anonymous wrote:The article points out that at ALL MCPS schools, even in honor classes, there’s a lack of rigor, grade level assignments, and assigned books.

Even in AP classes! Look at your high school’s AP scores and you can easily see that. Very much a lack of rigor.

21 out 25 MCPS schools made the AP honor roll.
MCPS has an AP passing rate of over 70%.
How is it a lack of rigor?

And many, if not most AP courses have a total pass rate of 70% now, so this is nothing special.

The national AP passing rate is 52%

You are out-of-date... See last column...
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions

For about half of those courses have a pass rate below 70%. Even if they all had a 70% pass rate, isn’t that the point. For kids to take a class and demonstrate mastery of the content? It’s like you have a problem with kids and teachers being successful.

I personally wouldn’t count receiving a 3 on an AP test a success.

MCPS counts the score of 3 and above as a ‘success’. But I agree with you.

Yes - not surprising from the system that, just yesterday, publicly released the district's MCAP scores with a headline touting how they are the best in Maryland while glossing over the fact that MCPS scores have been declining year-over-year.

Idiot, it's the college board that decides 3 and above as success. If you have a problem with that, take it with them.
Second, MCPS' MCAP scores have not been declining. This is an unproven test that is only 3 years old.
You would think these private schools parents would be smarter

Why are you so triggered by private school parents that you bring them up even when no one has identified themselves as a private school parent?

[Anonymous]

I just read the article. What an absolute mess.

I can’t understand how anyone can continue defending this district or pretending it’s providing kids with a high quality education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The article points out that at ALL MCPS schools, even in honor classes, there’s a lack of rigor, grade level assignments, and assigned books.

Even in AP classes! Look at your high school’s AP scores and you can easily see that. Very much a lack of rigor.

21 out 25 MCPS schools made the AP honor roll.
MCPS has an AP passing rate of over 70%.
How is it a lack of rigor?

And many, if not most AP courses have a total pass rate of 70% now, so this is nothing special.

The national AP passing rate is 52%

You are out-of-date... See last column...
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions

For about half of those courses have a pass rate below 70%. Even if they all had a 70% pass rate, isn’t that the point. For kids to take a class and demonstrate mastery of the content? It’s like you have a problem with kids and teachers being successful.

I personally wouldn’t count receiving a 3 on an AP test a success.

MCPS counts the score of 3 and above as a ‘success’. But I agree with you.

Yes - not surprising from the system that, just yesterday, publicly released the district's MCAP scores with a headline touting how they are the best in Maryland while glossing over the fact that MCPS scores have been declining year-over-year.

Idiot, it's the college board that decides 3 and above as success. If you have a problem with that, take it with them.
Second, MCPS' MCAP scores have not been declining. This is an unproven test that is only 3 years old.
You would think these private schools parents would be smarter

Why are you so triggered by private school parents that you bring them up even when no one has identified themselves as a private school parent?

Why are you posting here if you are a private school parent?

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article. What an absolute mess.

I can’t understand how anyone can continue defending this district or pretending it’s providing kids with a high quality education.

Can you post it online? I don't think it's on their website, which is annoying.