"Is MCPS losing its edge?"

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Anonymous wrote:The article points out that at ALL MCPS schools, even in honor classes, there’s a lack of rigor, grade level assignments, and assigned books.

Even in AP classes! Look at your high school’s AP scores and you can easily see that. Very much a lack of rigor.

21 out 25 MCPS schools made the AP honor roll.
MCPS has an AP passing rate of over 70%.
How is it a lack of rigor?

And many, if not most AP courses have a total pass rate of 70% now, so this is nothing special.

The national AP passing rate is 52%

You are out-of-date... See last column...
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions

For about half of those courses have a pass rate below 70%. Even if they all had a 70% pass rate, isn’t that the point. For kids to take a class and demonstrate mastery of the content? It’s like you have a problem with kids and teachers being successful.

I personally wouldn’t count receiving a 3 on an AP test a success.

[Anonymous]

It’s becoming a 1%er mag—notice the article on cool school designs or some such. Majority private schools—2 public’s. Courting the snobs, blaspheming our schools. Public schools are in danger. Time to join the PTA, volunteer, and step up folks.

[Anonymous]

The list of college acceptances that came just after this article was also pretty depressing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s becoming a 1%er mag—notice the article on cool school designs or some such. Majority private schools—2 public’s. Courting the snobs, blaspheming our schools. Public schools are in danger. Time to join the PTA, volunteer, and step up folks.

Your post is confusing. You're saying MoCo 360 is snobbish and making MCPS seem worse than it is. But then you're saying public schools are in danger and that people need to join the PTA and step up.

So which is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Publics everywhere are for impoverished, overwhelmed or confused families. Private or homeschool for families of means.

You write this on a lot of threads. And it is simply not true. I think you would probably categorize me as "confused" but we have tried a well-regarded private and a well-regarded public, and public came out on top. Will this be true of every school? No. Is it for many? Yes. Many many families of means choose public because it can be better. "Confused" would describe those unable to accept this.

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Anonymous wrote:It never had an edge. They need to get back to basics.

It did in the 60s and 70s.

Homogeneous population.

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Private schools folks lurking in this discussion. Again. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:It never had an edge. They need to get back to basics.

It did in the 60s and 70s.

Homogeneous population.

Yes. The article could have had more discussion of this context. The FARMS rates have risen dramatically over the years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Publics everywhere are for impoverished, overwhelmed or confused families. Private or homeschool for families of means.

You write this on a lot of threads. And it is simply not true. I think you would probably categorize me as "confused" but we have tried a well-regarded private and a well-regarded public, and public came out on top. Will this be true of every school? No. Is it for many? Yes. Many many families of means choose public because it can be better. "Confused" would describe those unable to accept this.

Which public? Based on MCPS' own data (Schools at a Glance) there are a few public schools in MCPS that are still producing students that are proficient in both Language Arts and Math. But that is not true for the majority of MCPS schools.

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Anonymous wrote:It never had an edge. They need to get back to basics.

It did in the 60s and 70s.

Homogeneous population.

Yes. The article could have had more discussion of this context. The FARMS rates have risen dramatically over the years.

We definitely know that by now. Changing demographics in the county over the past decade have had a major effect on the school system.

[Anonymous]

I used to think rigor was a problem. In ES, my kids NEVER had homework. They really could have used extra practice but it was against school policy. DS just started high school and already had homework in many of his classes on the first day, math worksheets, an essay with a presentation due the second day of school, government worksheet, biology homework online. It was a lot for the first day and it will only get more intense. If your kid is in high school and doesn’t have enough rigor then perhaps they need to take more honors and AP courses?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used to think rigor was a problem. In ES, my kids NEVER had homework. They really could have used extra practice but it was against school policy. DS just started high school and already had homework in many of his classes on the first day, math worksheets, an essay with a presentation due the second day of school, government worksheet, biology homework online. It was a lot for the first day and it will only get more intense. If your kid is in high school and doesn’t have enough rigor then perhaps they need to take more honors and AP courses?

Rigor in ES was never the problem as there are PLENTY of private ES that don’t have any or lots of homework at that level. Plus there are PLENTY of folks in MCPS including on DCUM who would claim that ES school kids don’t need homework they need family time and a break after school.

[Anonymous]

They are not supportive of teachers who are passionate about teaching and devoted their lives to students. They are overly supportive of admin who use teachers to be the blame for the lack of discipline and the chaos that arises. Ergo teachers have no support and kids have to guide themselves while kids surf tiktok all day and teachers are blamed as bad at their job because if they were "good" teachers they would be more entertaining than the Internet. That's the logic to give teachers a hard time.

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Anonymous wrote:The article points out that at ALL MCPS schools, even in honor classes, there’s a lack of rigor, grade level assignments, and assigned books.

Even in AP classes! Look at your high school’s AP scores and you can easily see that. Very much a lack of rigor.

21 out 25 MCPS schools made the AP honor roll.
MCPS has an AP passing rate of over 70%.
How is it a lack of rigor?

And many, if not most AP courses have a total pass rate of 70% now, so this is nothing special.

The national AP passing rate is 52%

You are out-of-date... See last column...
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions

For about half of those courses have a pass rate below 70%. Even if they all had a 70% pass rate, isn’t that the point. For kids to take a class and demonstrate mastery of the content? It’s like you have a problem with kids and teachers being successful.

I personally wouldn’t count receiving a 3 on an AP test a success.

MCPS counts the score of 3 and above as a ‘success’. But I agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:The article points out that at ALL MCPS schools, even in honor classes, there’s a lack of rigor, grade level assignments, and assigned books.

Even in AP classes! Look at your high school’s AP scores and you can easily see that. Very much a lack of rigor.

21 out 25 MCPS schools made the AP honor roll.
MCPS has an AP passing rate of over 70%.
How is it a lack of rigor?

And many, if not most AP courses have a total pass rate of 70% now, so this is nothing special.

The national AP passing rate is 52%

You are out-of-date... See last column...
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions

For about half of those courses have a pass rate below 70%. Even if they all had a 70% pass rate, isn’t that the point. For kids to take a class and demonstrate mastery of the content? It’s like you have a problem with kids and teachers being successful.

I personally wouldn’t count receiving a 3 on an AP test a success.

I don't think a 3 should receive college credit, but I do think it's fine as the minimum for demonstrating an acceptable level of mastery and competency in the subject.