Navy kiss and ride

[Anonymous]

My kid in AAP at another ES had two straight years of full time subs because they were holding the job for a teacher who was out. The worst part was every once in awhile, a sub would be amazing, but there was some rule that one sub could only work for X number of months, so eventually that sub would have to leave.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think people understand just how bad things are at Navy at the moment, especially in 6th grade. Yes, some parents are crazy, but most are not. And there is a large group of very normal parents who are, understandably, pissed that their kids have a substitute between the hours of 12:20-2:50. If the sub was actually teaching? Fine. But she’s not. She’s allowing the kids to go on their computers, unsupervised, for a good portion of that time. I don’t care about Kiss and Ride. I don’t care who’s hurling insults and who. I just want my kid to have a freaking teacher. Is that too much to ask for??

I'm curious about if parents have gone to the principal, the Executive Principal, the Regional Superintendent about this concern? Or would you rather just complain anonymously? There is a way to get things done in FCPS and it does not involve as much whining as I see on this board. The parents at my children's school many years ago banded together and went through proper procedures in order to have FCPS leadership take a hard look at a really bad principal, and that principal was let go, for example. In this case, it sounds like you have a really good case to ask the school system to find you a new long-term substitute. You have to make some phone calls though, and a lot of millennials are really scared to get on the phone, so I don't know what to tell you.

Lady, we have 6th graders. Many of us are old, uncool, gen x-ers. And we are already one step ahead of you. So far we have met with the principal, Douglas Tyson (he’s actually coming back to the school for a meeting next week), Dr. Copeland, Seema Dixit and the Ombudsman. Dr. Ponce is next on the list. We’ve got a a GREAT case….and they’re still not doing anything.

It sounds like a crappy situation. I am assuming that the school is trying to hire Teachers and struggling. What do you expect them to do outside of hiring Teachers? There is a shortage of Subs and Teachers in the country. That doesn’t change that it sucks for your kids and that you are worried, I understand that.

This. The parents think the admin can just snap their fingers and a good replacement will arrive. There really is nothing they can really do until they get a good candidate. I’ve heard all sorts of crazy ideas by parents they won’t work. They just don’t get it.

Not at all. Personally, I think that admin did a great job hiring 25+ staff during a teacher shortage, and I am fully aware that we are not getting a certified teacher any time soon. What I would like to see is admin providing some oversight into what is actually going on in that classroom, and to hold whoever is teaching the class accountable for making sure lessons are actually getting taught. I understand sub pay is sh*t, and that is a whole other topic, but you cannot just have kids sitting on their laptops for half the day. There are some pretty bad things happening as a result, and admin is starting to figure that out.

What do you think happens when there is no teacher? Subs are not going to lesson plan and most won't teach new material. You get what you pay for

A) The 6th grade team is providing detailed lesson plans, so they are not actually planning anything.

B) This is a long term sub.

C) As much as your pay sucks, you still have to do your job. And as much as you would like to think subs are nothing more than glorified babysitters, most subs that I know would be very offended by that assumption.

- A former sub

The sub is not carrying out the plans appropriately and kids are totally lost. The class is complete chaos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid in AAP at another ES had two straight years of full time subs because they were holding the job for a teacher who was out. The worst part was every once in awhile, a sub would be amazing, but there was some rule that one sub could only work for X number of months, so eventually that sub would have to leave.

Who provided the lesson plans for the sub?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid in AAP at another ES had two straight years of full time subs because they were holding the job for a teacher who was out. The worst part was every once in awhile, a sub would be amazing, but there was some rule that one sub could only work for X number of months, so eventually that sub would have to leave.

Who provided the lesson plans for the sub?

The other teachers for the grade.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid in AAP at another ES had two straight years of full time subs because they were holding the job for a teacher who was out. The worst part was every once in awhile, a sub would be amazing, but there was some rule that one sub could only work for X number of months, so eventually that sub would have to leave.

Who provided the lesson plans for the sub?

The other teachers for the grade.

Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think people understand just how bad things are at Navy at the moment, especially in 6th grade. Yes, some parents are crazy, but most are not. And there is a large group of very normal parents who are, understandably, pissed that their kids have a substitute between the hours of 12:20-2:50. If the sub was actually teaching? Fine. But she’s not. She’s allowing the kids to go on their computers, unsupervised, for a good portion of that time. I don’t care about Kiss and Ride. I don’t care who’s hurling insults and who. I just want my kid to have a freaking teacher. Is that too much to ask for??

I'm curious about if parents have gone to the principal, the Executive Principal, the Regional Superintendent about this concern? Or would you rather just complain anonymously? There is a way to get things done in FCPS and it does not involve as much whining as I see on this board. The parents at my children's school many years ago banded together and went through proper procedures in order to have FCPS leadership take a hard look at a really bad principal, and that principal was let go, for example. In this case, it sounds like you have a really good case to ask the school system to find you a new long-term substitute. You have to make some phone calls though, and a lot of millennials are really scared to get on the phone, so I don't know what to tell you.

Lady, we have 6th graders. Many of us are old, uncool, gen x-ers. And we are already one step ahead of you. So far we have met with the principal, Douglas Tyson (he’s actually coming back to the school for a meeting next week), Dr. Copeland, Seema Dixit and the Ombudsman. Dr. Ponce is next on the list. We’ve got a a GREAT case….and they’re still not doing anything.

It sounds like a crappy situation. I am assuming that the school is trying to hire Teachers and struggling. What do you expect them to do outside of hiring Teachers? There is a shortage of Subs and Teachers in the country. That doesn’t change that it sucks for your kids and that you are worried, I understand that.

This. The parents think the admin can just snap their fingers and a good replacement will arrive. There really is nothing they can really do until they get a good candidate. I’ve heard all sorts of crazy ideas by parents they won’t work. They just don’t get it.

Not at all. Personally, I think that admin did a great job hiring 25+ staff during a teacher shortage, and I am fully aware that we are not getting a certified teacher any time soon. What I would like to see is admin providing some oversight into what is actually going on in that classroom, and to hold whoever is teaching the class accountable for making sure lessons are actually getting taught. I understand sub pay is sh*t, and that is a whole other topic, but you cannot just have kids sitting on their laptops for half the day. There are some pretty bad things happening as a result, and admin is starting to figure that out.

What do you think happens when there is no teacher? Subs are not going to lesson plan and most won't teach new material. You get what you pay for

A) The 6th grade team is providing detailed lesson plans, so they are not actually planning anything.

B) This is a long term sub.

C) As much as your pay sucks, you still have to do your job. And as much as you would like to think subs are nothing more than glorified babysitters, most subs that I know would be very offended by that assumption.

- A former sub

The sub doesn’t seem to know how to teach - no idea why she is even a long term sub at this point when she can’t do simple tasks.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think people understand just how bad things are at Navy at the moment, especially in 6th grade. Yes, some parents are crazy, but most are not. And there is a large group of very normal parents who are, understandably, pissed that their kids have a substitute between the hours of 12:20-2:50. If the sub was actually teaching? Fine. But she’s not. She’s allowing the kids to go on their computers, unsupervised, for a good portion of that time. I don’t care about Kiss and Ride. I don’t care who’s hurling insults and who. I just want my kid to have a freaking teacher. Is that too much to ask for??

I'm curious about if parents have gone to the principal, the Executive Principal, the Regional Superintendent about this concern? Or would you rather just complain anonymously? There is a way to get things done in FCPS and it does not involve as much whining as I see on this board. The parents at my children's school many years ago banded together and went through proper procedures in order to have FCPS leadership take a hard look at a really bad principal, and that principal was let go, for example. In this case, it sounds like you have a really good case to ask the school system to find you a new long-term substitute. You have to make some phone calls though, and a lot of millennials are really scared to get on the phone, so I don't know what to tell you.

Lady, we have 6th graders. Many of us are old, uncool, gen x-ers. And we are already one step ahead of you. So far we have met with the principal, Douglas Tyson (he’s actually coming back to the school for a meeting next week), Dr. Copeland, Seema Dixit and the Ombudsman. Dr. Ponce is next on the list. We’ve got a a GREAT case….and they’re still not doing anything.

It sounds like a crappy situation. I am assuming that the school is trying to hire Teachers and struggling. What do you expect them to do outside of hiring Teachers? There is a shortage of Subs and Teachers in the country. That doesn’t change that it sucks for your kids and that you are worried, I understand that.

This. The parents think the admin can just snap their fingers and a good replacement will arrive. There really is nothing they can really do until they get a good candidate. I’ve heard all sorts of crazy ideas by parents they won’t work. They just don’t get it.

Not at all. Personally, I think that admin did a great job hiring 25+ staff during a teacher shortage, and I am fully aware that we are not getting a certified teacher any time soon. What I would like to see is admin providing some oversight into what is actually going on in that classroom, and to hold whoever is teaching the class accountable for making sure lessons are actually getting taught. I understand sub pay is sh*t, and that is a whole other topic, but you cannot just have kids sitting on their laptops for half the day. There are some pretty bad things happening as a result, and admin is starting to figure that out.

What do you think happens when there is no teacher? Subs are not going to lesson plan and most won't teach new material. You get what you pay for

A) The 6th grade team is providing detailed lesson plans, so they are not actually planning anything.

B) This is a long term sub.

C) As much as your pay sucks, you still have to do your job. And as much as you would like to think subs are nothing more than glorified babysitters, most subs that I know would be very offended by that assumption.

- A former sub

The sub doesn’t seem to know how to teach - no idea why she is even a long term sub at this point when she can’t do simple tasks.

Maybe you should sign up to be a sub. My child had a substitute last year that was a parent in the community.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think people understand just how bad things are at Navy at the moment, especially in 6th grade. Yes, some parents are crazy, but most are not. And there is a large group of very normal parents who are, understandably, pissed that their kids have a substitute between the hours of 12:20-2:50. If the sub was actually teaching? Fine. But she’s not. She’s allowing the kids to go on their computers, unsupervised, for a good portion of that time. I don’t care about Kiss and Ride. I don’t care who’s hurling insults and who. I just want my kid to have a freaking teacher. Is that too much to ask for??

I'm curious about if parents have gone to the principal, the Executive Principal, the Regional Superintendent about this concern? Or would you rather just complain anonymously? There is a way to get things done in FCPS and it does not involve as much whining as I see on this board. The parents at my children's school many years ago banded together and went through proper procedures in order to have FCPS leadership take a hard look at a really bad principal, and that principal was let go, for example. In this case, it sounds like you have a really good case to ask the school system to find you a new long-term substitute. You have to make some phone calls though, and a lot of millennials are really scared to get on the phone, so I don't know what to tell you.

Lady, we have 6th graders. Many of us are old, uncool, gen x-ers. And we are already one step ahead of you. So far we have met with the principal, Douglas Tyson (he’s actually coming back to the school for a meeting next week), Dr. Copeland, Seema Dixit and the Ombudsman. Dr. Ponce is next on the list. We’ve got a a GREAT case….and they’re still not doing anything.

It sounds like a crappy situation. I am assuming that the school is trying to hire Teachers and struggling. What do you expect them to do outside of hiring Teachers? There is a shortage of Subs and Teachers in the country. That doesn’t change that it sucks for your kids and that you are worried, I understand that.

This. The parents think the admin can just snap their fingers and a good replacement will arrive. There really is nothing they can really do until they get a good candidate. I’ve heard all sorts of crazy ideas by parents they won’t work. They just don’t get it.

Not at all. Personally, I think that admin did a great job hiring 25+ staff during a teacher shortage, and I am fully aware that we are not getting a certified teacher any time soon. What I would like to see is admin providing some oversight into what is actually going on in that classroom, and to hold whoever is teaching the class accountable for making sure lessons are actually getting taught. I understand sub pay is sh*t, and that is a whole other topic, but you cannot just have kids sitting on their laptops for half the day. There are some pretty bad things happening as a result, and admin is starting to figure that out.

What do you think happens when there is no teacher? Subs are not going to lesson plan and most won't teach new material. You get what you pay for

A) The 6th grade team is providing detailed lesson plans, so they are not actually planning anything.

B) This is a long term sub.

C) As much as your pay sucks, you still have to do your job. And as much as you would like to think subs are nothing more than glorified babysitters, most subs that I know would be very offended by that assumption.

- A former sub

subs are glorified babysitters.

And you wonder why nobody wants to go into teaching.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think people understand just how bad things are at Navy at the moment, especially in 6th grade. Yes, some parents are crazy, but most are not. And there is a large group of very normal parents who are, understandably, pissed that their kids have a substitute between the hours of 12:20-2:50. If the sub was actually teaching? Fine. But she’s not. She’s allowing the kids to go on their computers, unsupervised, for a good portion of that time. I don’t care about Kiss and Ride. I don’t care who’s hurling insults and who. I just want my kid to have a freaking teacher. Is that too much to ask for??

I'm curious about if parents have gone to the principal, the Executive Principal, the Regional Superintendent about this concern? Or would you rather just complain anonymously? There is a way to get things done in FCPS and it does not involve as much whining as I see on this board. The parents at my children's school many years ago banded together and went through proper procedures in order to have FCPS leadership take a hard look at a really bad principal, and that principal was let go, for example. In this case, it sounds like you have a really good case to ask the school system to find you a new long-term substitute. You have to make some phone calls though, and a lot of millennials are really scared to get on the phone, so I don't know what to tell you.

Lady, we have 6th graders. Many of us are old, uncool, gen x-ers. And we are already one step ahead of you. So far we have met with the principal, Douglas Tyson (he’s actually coming back to the school for a meeting next week), Dr. Copeland, Seema Dixit and the Ombudsman. Dr. Ponce is next on the list. We’ve got a a GREAT case….and they’re still not doing anything.

It sounds like a crappy situation. I am assuming that the school is trying to hire Teachers and struggling. What do you expect them to do outside of hiring Teachers? There is a shortage of Subs and Teachers in the country. That doesn’t change that it sucks for your kids and that you are worried, I understand that.

This. The parents think the admin can just snap their fingers and a good replacement will arrive. There really is nothing they can really do until they get a good candidate. I’ve heard all sorts of crazy ideas by parents they won’t work. They just don’t get it.

Not at all. Personally, I think that admin did a great job hiring 25+ staff during a teacher shortage, and I am fully aware that we are not getting a certified teacher any time soon. What I would like to see is admin providing some oversight into what is actually going on in that classroom, and to hold whoever is teaching the class accountable for making sure lessons are actually getting taught. I understand sub pay is sh*t, and that is a whole other topic, but you cannot just have kids sitting on their laptops for half the day. There are some pretty bad things happening as a result, and admin is starting to figure that out.

What do you think happens when there is no teacher? Subs are not going to lesson plan and most won't teach new material. You get what you pay for

A) The 6th grade team is providing detailed lesson plans, so they are not actually planning anything.

B) This is a long term sub.

C) As much as your pay sucks, you still have to do your job. And as much as you would like to think subs are nothing more than glorified babysitters, most subs that I know would be very offended by that assumption.

- A former sub

The sub doesn’t seem to know how to teach - no idea why she is even a long term sub at this point when she can’t do simple tasks.

Maybe you should sign up to be a sub. My child had a substitute last year that was a parent in the community.

I don’t see how that would help. A sub’s job is to teach. I am not a sub and that isn’t my job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rise up and switch to private, angry Navy moms.

Fine but I pay taxes and want a voucher.

Happy so for teacher isn’t a reason for a voucher.

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Anonymous wrote:Rise up and switch to private, angry Navy moms.

Fine but I pay taxes and want a voucher.

Happy so for teacher isn’t a reason for a voucher.

You sure have all the answers.

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Anonymous wrote:Rise up and switch to private, angry Navy moms.

Fine but I pay taxes and want a voucher.

Happy so for teacher isn’t a reason for a voucher.

I don’t understand this response.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rise up and switch to private, angry Navy moms.

Fine but I pay taxes and want a voucher.

Happy so for teacher isn’t a reason for a voucher.

I don’t understand this response.

Because it makes no sense! This is a prime example of an anti-navy-parent. This person clearly makes no sense and has no vested interest but has nothing better to do than comment on here with their nonsense. If the school isn't up to par, they need to figure out a plan B so our kids can still get an adequate education.