Terrible dysfunction at UC administration

[Anonymous]

The UCs are bureaucratic and inflexible. Unlikely to improve before college graduation. Could get worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing in California works, that why people are leaving in droves. Shouldn’t be surprised.

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It's such a nightmare that 39 million people find a way to live there

Many if whom are actively looking to leave. LA Times has reported extensively on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: It is a public university system.




Don't expect a private school experience at an average UC

That was all that needed to be said.

OP here. To be clear. I don't mind so much the admin incompetence IF it is limited to the administrative side of things. I don't need red carpet service. In fact, I don't want half of my $70,000 going to red carpet service. What I do want is stellar academics, and I started this whole thread because I'm worried that the administrative incompetence is a sign of general incompetence. But I don't know. That's why I posted.

Berkeley has a great education. UCLA has a very good education. There's no UC that's going to give you an incompetent education. What is DC's major?

They're going to.get a good education!

They're large schools and not easy to navigate. It's like dealing with the DMV rather than concierge service.

It's funny to read this because I went to grad school at Berkeley in the 80s. The beauracracy was slooow and time-consuming (waiting in long lines, long waits for responses).

However, it all works out. I am just amused because it sounds like nothing has changed in all this time. (I had gone to a large private university before this and even with its large size, it was closer to concierge.)

But if you are patient, it will work out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing in California works, that why people are leaving in droves. Shouldn’t be surprised.

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It's such a nightmare that 39 million people find a way to live there

Many if whom are actively looking to leave. LA Times has reported extensively on this.

You know how many people live in places they don't want to? No? Because it does not matter. If it was that awful of a place, it wouldn't have 39 million people to start with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We haven’t had any issues with Michigan re communication or billing for past few years, as one data point.

The grown ups are talking about elite schools.

Douché

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: It is a public university system.




Don't expect a private school experience at an average UC

That was all that needed to be said.

OP here. To be clear. I don't mind so much the admin incompetence IF it is limited to the administrative side of things. I don't need red carpet service. In fact, I don't want half of my $70,000 going to red carpet service. What I do want is stellar academics, and I started this whole thread because I'm worried that the administrative incompetence is a sign of general incompetence. But I don't know. That's why I posted.

Your child is enrolled in the flagship public university in one of the most affluent and educated states in the country, which could hold its own economically even if it was a separate country. Your child will have access to an incredible education. However it is a large PUBLIC institution created to benefit the people of CALIFORNIA. You are paying the same amount as you would at a SLAC but you will not get the same kind of ease and external polish - far from it. If you/your kid were not prepared for this, sorry?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing in California works, that why people are leaving in droves. Shouldn’t be surprised.

4
It's such a nightmare that 39 million people find a way to live there

Many if whom are actively looking to leave. LA Times has reported extensively on this.

You know how many people live in places they don't want to? No? Because it does not matter. If it was that awful of a place, it wouldn't have 39 million people to start with.

Ah, the Bangladesh fallacy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing in California works, that why people are leaving in droves. Shouldn’t be surprised.

4
It's such a nightmare that 39 million people find a way to live there

Many if whom are actively looking to leave. LA Times has reported extensively on this.

You know how many people live in places they don't want to? No? Because it does not matter. If it was that awful of a place, it wouldn't have 39 million people to start with.

Ah, the Bangladesh fallacy!

Yep, cause Bangladesh is very comparable to the United States hahaha. All those 39 million small towns everywhere....cause we don't have choice of movement or anything here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: It is a public university system.




Don't expect a private school experience at an average UC

That was all that needed to be said.

OP here. To be clear. I don't mind so much the admin incompetence IF it is limited to the administrative side of things. I don't need red carpet service. In fact, I don't want half of my $70,000 going to red carpet service. What I do want is stellar academics, and I started this whole thread because I'm worried that the administrative incompetence is a sign of general incompetence. But I don't know. That's why I posted.

Berkeley has a great education. UCLA has a very good education. There's no UC that's going to give you an incompetent education. What is DC's major?

They're going to.get a good education!

They're large schools and not easy to navigate. It's like dealing with the DMV rather than concierge service.

It's funny to read this because I went to grad school at Berkeley in the 80s. The beauracracy was slooow and time-consuming (waiting in long lines, long waits for responses).

However, it all works out. I am just amused because it sounds like nothing has changed in all this time. (I had gone to a large private university before this and even with its large size, it was closer to concierge.)

But if you are patient, it will work out.

Funny, I went to a Liberal Arts College, then Columbia Law. I described getting a transcript or something from the school as exactly a DMV experience. The whole workers in bursars office couldn’t give a crap, They were bored, passive bitter. Was wholly different at my undergrad school This was DMV and Post Office New York style, I think big state schools probably the same. I’ll see as DD heads to a UC in September. Didn’t want the small experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's another reason I can't take US News seriously anymore. Berkeley and UCLA in the top 20 is ridiculous. And paying OOS tuition for the dysfunction would feel like robbery to me.

100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: It is a public university system.




Don't expect a private school experience at an average UC

That was all that needed to be said.

OP here. To be clear. I don't mind so much the admin incompetence IF it is limited to the administrative side of things. I don't need red carpet service. In fact, I don't want half of my $70,000 going to red carpet service. What I do want is stellar academics, and I started this whole thread because I'm worried that the administrative incompetence is a sign of general incompetence. But I don't know. That's why I posted.

Berkeley has a great education. UCLA has a very good education. There's no UC that's going to give you an incompetent education. What is DC's major?

They're going to.get a good education!

They're large schools and not easy to navigate. It's like dealing with the DMV rather than concierge service.

It's funny to read this because I went to grad school at Berkeley in the 80s. The beauracracy was slooow and time-consuming (waiting in long lines, long waits for responses).

However, it all works out. I am just amused because it sounds like nothing has changed in all this time. (I had gone to a large private university before this and even with its large size, it was closer to concierge.)

But if you are patient, it will work out.

Funny, I went to a Liberal Arts College, then Columbia Law. I described getting a transcript or something from the school as exactly a DMV experience. The whole workers in bursars office couldn’t give a crap, They were bored, passive bitter. Was wholly different at my undergrad school This was DMV and Post Office New York style, I think big state schools probably the same. I’ll see as DD heads to a UC in September. Didn’t want the small experience.

You can get your transcripts online now really quick, so that's no longer a problem. At DC1's LAC, there's so much "trust us, we just need some time" while at DC2's University, there's a lot more "We're not able to help at this time...Call us later." and it's a robot, not a human. Both are pretty dang good colleges. I'm starting to think higher admin staff positions don't attract the most helpful crowd in general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's another reason I can't take US News seriously anymore. Berkeley and UCLA in the top 20 is ridiculous. And paying OOS tuition for the dysfunction would feel like robbery to me.

100%

I agree if UVA will also be knocked down for OOS costs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing in California works, that why people are leaving in droves. Shouldn’t be surprised.

4
It's such a nightmare that 39 million people find a way to live there

Many if whom are actively looking to leave. LA Times has reported extensively on this.

You know how many people live in places they don't want to? No? Because it does not matter. If it was that awful of a place, it wouldn't have 39 million people to start with.

Ah, the Bangladesh fallacy!

Sure, Jan.

[Anonymous]

quotes are back.

[Anonymous]

This is why my DC goes to USC. Transfer across the city OP. The administration is downright impressive with how well oiled it is. Never a problem, never confused, never mixed signals, and on the rare occasion when I do need to call, the call is answered by a human and the service is prompt and friendly! And they ended the protests as quickly as they popped up. Looking at you UCLA where a judge had to friggen intervene to give Jewish students access to their classes this fall.