why is team USA stinking?

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

I truly can't tell if the PP is an aging Boomer longing for yesteryear (when everything was better), an addled conspiracy theorist seeing boogeymen under every corner, or a bored Gen Z on summer break.

I think they have the classic DC (and DCUM) disease where they think a tiny bit of knowledge and a little bit of personal observation makes them an expert in anything -- Olympic sports or international dipolomacy or bridge engineering or parenting.

Or they are just doing a pitch perfect imitation of people with this disease. Hitting all the notes.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

I truly can't tell if the PP is an aging Boomer longing for yesteryear (when everything was better), an addled conspiracy theorist seeing boogeymen under every corner, or a bored Gen Z on summer break.

I think they have the classic DC (and DCUM) disease where they think a tiny bit of knowledge and a little bit of personal observation makes them an expert in anything -- Olympic sports or international dipolomacy or bridge engineering or parenting.

Or they are just doing a pitch perfect imitation of people with this disease. Hitting all the notes.

You can't tolerate people think that you are wrong, and are not changing their mind. Your feelings are truly hurt. You see it as not nice and you crave niceness.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

Watch the womens team final for gymnastics and please show me where the US team is "falling and tripping and not sticking their landings." Like be specific. There were a few hops or stepouts on their biggest tricks and one pretty minor fall. The vast majority of landings were absolutely stuck and all the gymnastics in between were incredibly refined and precise. Perhaps the best team final from a US team I've seen in 20 years in terms of execution. They are so good and consistent it almost makes it look boring. Until I was Biles throw the tricks on floor that are named before and my jaw still drops.

You are repeating what I said just using different words and saying well I don't care about those things. Well that is you. Doesn't change my point.

Well the things you care about are not as important as the extraordinarily different skills themselves to every single person who runs and judges the sport in question. So feel free to start your own gymnastics league where sticking the landing on a round off back handspring is considered more impressive than taking a small step after a round off back handspring into a double-twisting triple-flip.

The reason Biles takes a step after that trick is that she has so much power and height going into it that when she lands it on the springed floor her body rebounds off the springs. Who knows -- maybe it's possible for someone else to do this trick and land it solidly without the bounce step. I'll let you know when a single other gymnast completes it in competition. You might be waiting a while.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

I truly can't tell if the PP is an aging Boomer longing for yesteryear (when everything was better), an addled conspiracy theorist seeing boogeymen under every corner, or a bored Gen Z on summer break.

I think they have the classic DC (and DCUM) disease where they think a tiny bit of knowledge and a little bit of personal observation makes them an expert in anything -- Olympic sports or international dipolomacy or bridge engineering or parenting.

Or they are just doing a pitch perfect imitation of people with this disease. Hitting all the notes.

You can't tolerate people think that you are wrong, and are not changing their mind. Your feelings are truly hurt. You see it as not nice and you crave niceness.

No I don't care if you think I'm wrong -- I just feel bad for you that you are as wrong as you are and have been schooled on how wrong you are by people who know a lot more than you and yet you persist in being wrong. I'm trying to help you!

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

I truly can't tell if the PP is an aging Boomer longing for yesteryear (when everything was better), an addled conspiracy theorist seeing boogeymen under every corner, or a bored Gen Z on summer break.

I think they have the classic DC (and DCUM) disease where they think a tiny bit of knowledge and a little bit of personal observation makes them an expert in anything -- Olympic sports or international dipolomacy or bridge engineering or parenting.

Or they are just doing a pitch perfect imitation of people with this disease. Hitting all the notes.

You can't tolerate people think that you are wrong, and are not changing their mind. Your feelings are truly hurt. You see it as not nice and you crave niceness.

No I don't care if you think I'm wrong -- I just feel bad for you that you are as wrong as you are and have been schooled on how wrong you are by people who know a lot more than you and yet you persist in being wrong. I'm trying to help you!

You don't need to feel anything. There are billions of people in the world. Some may agree with me. I actually don't care. I don't believe in collectivism, and not concerned about your saving face. You and your imaginary team of people who agree with you, are wrong.

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Sports in an authoritarian country where the govt picks you from toddlerhood as the athlete and throws you away if you don't make it is different than on a country where you have to pay to learn and compete and find sponsors. Oj and go to university too. And for many sports such as gymnastics and diving there is a difficulty multiplier so not sticking the landing on a really hard routine can get more pts then completing an easier routine perfectly.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

I truly can't tell if the PP is an aging Boomer longing for yesteryear (when everything was better), an addled conspiracy theorist seeing boogeymen under every corner, or a bored Gen Z on summer break.

I think they have the classic DC (and DCUM) disease where they think a tiny bit of knowledge and a little bit of personal observation makes them an expert in anything -- Olympic sports or international dipolomacy or bridge engineering or parenting.

Or they are just doing a pitch perfect imitation of people with this disease. Hitting all the notes.

You can't tolerate people think that you are wrong, and are not changing their mind. Your feelings are truly hurt. You see it as not nice and you crave niceness.

No I don't care if you think I'm wrong -- I just feel bad for you that you are as wrong as you are and have been schooled on how wrong you are by people who know a lot more than you and yet you persist in being wrong. I'm trying to help you!

You don't need to feel anything. There are billions of people in the world. Some may agree with me. I actually don't care. I don't believe in collectivism, and not concerned about your saving face. You and your imaginary team of people who agree with you, are wrong.

Given you are the only person on the planet with your opinion there are only two options here:

1) You are right and literally every other person in the world is stupid or delusional.

2) You are wrong.

Good luck figuring out which one of these is a better outcome. Iconoclast.

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I can eat that Indian for lunch

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

I truly can't tell if the PP is an aging Boomer longing for yesteryear (when everything was better), an addled conspiracy theorist seeing boogeymen under every corner, or a bored Gen Z on summer break.

I think they have the classic DC (and DCUM) disease where they think a tiny bit of knowledge and a little bit of personal observation makes them an expert in anything -- Olympic sports or international dipolomacy or bridge engineering or parenting.

Or they are just doing a pitch perfect imitation of people with this disease. Hitting all the notes.

You can't tolerate people think that you are wrong, and are not changing their mind. Your feelings are truly hurt. You see it as not nice and you crave niceness.

No I don't care if you think I'm wrong -- I just feel bad for you that you are as wrong as you are and have been schooled on how wrong you are by people who know a lot more than you and yet you persist in being wrong. I'm trying to help you!

You don't need to feel anything. There are billions of people in the world. Some may agree with me. I actually don't care. I don't believe in collectivism, and not concerned about your saving face. You and your imaginary team of people who agree with you, are wrong.

Given you are the only person on the planet with your opinion there are only two options here:

1) You are right and literally every other person in the world is stupid or delusional.

2) You are wrong.

Good luck figuring out which one of these is a better outcome. Iconoclast.

Not possible that I am the only one with this opinion. Even if it were true, not a problem with me.
Your opinion is wrong. This is like "Carthage must be destroyed". I can tell you this all day. You are wrong.

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Lots of medals but not much gold. It’s really swimming that is having an embarrassingly bad competition compared to prior Olympics.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

I truly can't tell if the PP is an aging Boomer longing for yesteryear (when everything was better), an addled conspiracy theorist seeing boogeymen under every corner, or a bored Gen Z on summer break.

I think they have the classic DC (and DCUM) disease where they think a tiny bit of knowledge and a little bit of personal observation makes them an expert in anything -- Olympic sports or international dipolomacy or bridge engineering or parenting.

Or they are just doing a pitch perfect imitation of people with this disease. Hitting all the notes.

You can't tolerate people think that you are wrong, and are not changing their mind. Your feelings are truly hurt. You see it as not nice and you crave niceness.

No I don't care if you think I'm wrong -- I just feel bad for you that you are as wrong as you are and have been schooled on how wrong you are by people who know a lot more than you and yet you persist in being wrong. I'm trying to help you!

You don't need to feel anything. There are billions of people in the world. Some may agree with me. I actually don't care. I don't believe in collectivism, and not concerned about your saving face. You and your imaginary team of people who agree with you, are wrong.

Given you are the only person on the planet with your opinion there are only two options here:

1) You are right and literally every other person in the world is stupid or delusional.

2) You are wrong.

Good luck figuring out which one of these is a better outcome. Iconoclast.

Not possible that I am the only one with this opinion. Even if it were true, not a problem with me.
Your opinion is wrong. This is like "Carthage must be destroyed". I can tell you this all day. You are wrong.

What a compelling argument based on your personal beliefs and no actual facts.

[Anonymous]

For the sake of argument, let's accept OP's premise as true.

Maybe it's because other countries have formal, nationally funded sports schools and, when athletes are older, essentially support them as professional athletes. Whereas here in the US we rely on families to pay from childhood on, or on the athletes to work full time to earn money for pay for their sports. My daughter is in an individual summer Olympic sport, and the amount of funding available from her federation even for athletes competing internationally is negligible. It's financially irrational, if not impossible, for middle class families to do this.

Then add in NCAA rules that don't allow college athletes in individual sports to keep prize money from tournaments (there is a lawsuit now about this).

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Anonymous wrote:They always fall behind in beginning. Are you new here

And then they romp through track and field.

They're doing better than expected. Bronze in Men's Gymnastics team final and Bronze in Women's Rugby 7s was unexpected.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

Zzz


Still a ‘sport’ that requires judges. Boring.

If you don't enjoy it, change the channel. There's dozens of other sports at the Olympics. There's thousands of hours of other streaming content. Just skip it. I don't get why you feel the need to sh*t on stuff that other people enjoy. It's very childish of you.

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Get the crap out of here. You obviously aren’t participating, so STFU.

GO TEAM USA 🇱🇷