why is team USA stinking?

[Anonymous]

I'm just here to say that the term "stinking" is so low class.

We could say "underperforming" , even "lousy" which is something my silent generation mother uses- like they are infested with lice. Even "sucky" which is my own low class gen-x proclivity. But "stinking"? So disgustingly diaper-esque. I'm ashamed of you OP. Do better.

Or, just do as well as ... an olympiad?

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the sake of argument, let's accept OP's premise as true.

Maybe it's because other countries have formal, nationally funded sports schools and, when athletes are older, essentially support them as professional athletes. Whereas here in the US we rely on families to pay from childhood on, or on the athletes to work full time to earn money for pay for their sports. My daughter is in an individual summer Olympic sport, and the amount of funding available from her federation even for athletes competing internationally is negligible. It's financially irrational, if not impossible, for middle class families to do this.

Then add in NCAA rules that don't allow college athletes in individual sports to keep prize money from tournaments (there is a lawsuit now about this).

Loser talk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of medals but not much gold. It’s really swimming that is having an embarrassingly bad competition compared to prior Olympics.

Quite a few Olympic swimmers from other countries actually train here in the US. They come here for college, compete in the NCAA, and stay here after graduating to continue training with their college coach. This has always gone on to some extent, but seems like it’s become more prevalent recently. So at least some of the success by athletes from other countries may be due to US based training and coaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

There were 5.8 points between USA (#1) and Italy (#2). That gap is enormous in gymnastics. The team closest to 5.8 points below Italy was Romania, which finished in 7th place. The US women are completely dominant in gymnastics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of medals but not much gold. It’s really swimming that is having an embarrassingly bad competition compared to prior Olympics.

Quite a few Olympic swimmers from other countries actually train here in the US. They come here for college, compete in the NCAA, and stay here after graduating to continue training with their college coach. This has always gone on to some extent, but seems like it’s become more prevalent recently. So at least some of the success by athletes from other countries may be due to US based training and coaching.

We’re not supposed to talk about swimming training methods and what makes some more successful than others.

[Anonymous]

Loss of gold medals in swimming was expected to some degree, those who follow world championships knew that Australia was poised for most golds this time around.

We have good talent in swimming but Australia has always been a tough competitor, also, not every Olympics will have someone the caliber of Phelps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm just here to say that the term "stinking" is so low class.

We could say "underperforming" , even "lousy" which is something my silent generation mother uses- like they are infested with lice. Even "sucky" which is my own low class gen-x proclivity. But "stinking"? So disgustingly diaper-esque. I'm ashamed of you OP. Do better.

Or, just do as well as ... an olympiad?

That poster just enjoys being contrary, the little goof.

[Anonymous]

I haven’t read the whole thread, but in swimming it would help if the U.S. would stop training swimmers like Leon Marchand who then turn around and beat us in the Olympics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the whole thread, but in swimming it would help if the U.S. would stop training swimmers like Leon Marchand who then turn around and beat us in the Olympics.

So you are advocating that the US government pay all the coaches of every sport? Coaches have to earn a living, athletes from other countries pay them for their service. If we decide that they can only train US athlete their lost income from foreign athletes will have to be covered by somebody.

[Anonymous]

Gap continues to widen for golds between US and China. We aren't even keeping up with Japan, South Korea, or France. Very stinky showing this Olympics.

[Anonymous]

The US constitutes ~4.23% of the world population, but we certainly have more than 5% of the medals. Our swimming program is so strong that medalists from other countries train here. We’re doing well. You might be used to the Michael Phelps era, but he was a genetic anomaly. I can’t speak to other sports.

[Anonymous]

I feel like swimming, shooting, and archery, and to a lesser degree gymnastics, allow countries to run up the medal counts. China can focus an entire country on just shooting and diving and lead in gold medals. It's kind of a silly measurement (total gold count). So team of 10+ players has to play through group stages and tournament but it only counts as one medal (all team sports like soccer, rugby, handball, volleyball), but a single swimmer or diver can win a bunch of medals in many variations of the exact same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm just here to say that the term "stinking" is so low class.

We could say "underperforming" , even "lousy" which is something my silent generation mother uses- like they are infested with lice. Even "sucky" which is my own low class gen-x proclivity. But "stinking"? So disgustingly diaper-esque. I'm ashamed of you OP. Do better.

Or, just do as well as ... an olympiad?

Your moms low class