why is team USA stinking?

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This website really tests me sometimes

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:You are as dumb as a box of rocks. Men's gymnastics and women's rugby both won bronze medals, which are HUGE accomplishments.

But please go on with your discussion of our corporate and media overlords, you MAGA freak.

You prove my point. According to you (and whoever you are working here for), we are only allowed to say "great!" to whatever the overlords out in our face.

MAGA? What does that have to do with anything? Politicians benefits from suffocated public discourse. MAGA and progressives love silencing the public both.

Whomever I am working for? Oh, I see, since someone disagrees with you they have to be paid - that's the only possible reason for the disagreement? Got it.

And of course you are "allowed" to think whatever you like - but the rest of us, who aren't lunatic conspiracy theorists, are allowed to think you are an idiot. (See previous "dumb as a box of rocks" reference.)

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are as dumb as a box of rocks. Men's gymnastics and women's rugby both won bronze medals, which are HUGE accomplishments.

But please go on with your discussion of our corporate and media overlords, you MAGA freak.

You prove my point. According to you (and whoever you are working here for), we are only allowed to say "great!" to whatever the overlords out in our face.

MAGA? What does that have to do with anything? Politicians benefits from suffocated public discourse. MAGA and progressives love silencing the public both.

Whomever I am working for? Oh, I see, since someone disagrees with you they have to be paid - that's the only possible reason for the disagreement? Got it.

And of course you are "allowed" to think whatever you like - but the rest of us, who aren't lunatic conspiracy theorists, are allowed to think you are an idiot. (See previous "dumb as a box of rocks" reference.)

Who is "us"? No, the whole world doesn't agree with you. I think you are wrong, and there others who do as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This website really tests me sometimes

Oh come on, this thread has someone who thinks are corporate overlords are here paying people to cheer on the women's rugby team. This place is a cesspit, but that's grade A tinfoil hat material.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

I truly can't tell if the PP is an aging Boomer longing for yesteryear (when everything was better), an addled conspiracy theorist seeing boogeymen under every corner, or a bored Gen Z on summer break.

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Anonymous wrote:You are as dumb as a box of rocks. Men's gymnastics and women's rugby both won bronze medals, which are HUGE accomplishments.

But please go on with your discussion of our corporate and media overlords, you MAGA freak.

Ha, only in America do they celebrate coming in 3rd. You might as well just lose in 40th place. No one ever remembers the 3rd place winners 20 years from now. Only coming in first matters. You can lose by an inch or a mile. Losing is still losing.

How fast can you swim 100M? How's your floor routine?

I'm not competing in the Olympics, dimwit. How well could an Olympian build a house? How well could an Olympian do brain surgery? How well could an Olymian defend a client wrongly accused?

What a stupid argument. People who are bad at their jobs are allowed to be criticized by people who don't do the same line of work. Heck, the doctors and carpenters have greater impact on everyone's life anyway.

A bronze makes them the third best in the world at their job and probably the best in the country. Are you the best in the country at your job?

Or even top 3?

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Anonymous wrote:You are as dumb as a box of rocks. Men's gymnastics and women's rugby both won bronze medals, which are HUGE accomplishments.

But please go on with your discussion of our corporate and media overlords, you MAGA freak.

You prove my point. According to you (and whoever you are working here for), we are only allowed to say "great!" to whatever the overlords out in our face.

MAGA? What does that have to do with anything? Politicians benefits from suffocated public discourse. MAGA and progressives love silencing the public both.

Whomever I am working for? Oh, I see, since someone disagrees with you they have to be paid - that's the only possible reason for the disagreement? Got it.

And of course you are "allowed" to think whatever you like - but the rest of us, who aren't lunatic conspiracy theorists, are allowed to think you are an idiot. (See previous "dumb as a box of rocks" reference.)

Who is "us"? No, the whole world doesn't agree with you. I think you are wrong, and there others who do as well.

By us, I obviously meant others on this thread who think you're a moron. There apparently are several. And I'm sure there are people out there who agree with you, sadly, the number of lunatic conspiracy theorists out there is increasing.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

Zzz


Still a ‘sport’ that requires judges. Boring.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

I truly can't tell if the PP is an aging Boomer longing for yesteryear (when everything was better), an addled conspiracy theorist seeing boogeymen under every corner, or a bored Gen Z on summer break.

Choice C - This is good old fashioned rage bait.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

Watch the womens team final for gymnastics and please show me where the US team is "falling and tripping and not sticking their landings." Like be specific. There were a few hops or stepouts on their biggest tricks and one pretty minor fall. The vast majority of landings were absolutely stuck and all the gymnastics in between were incredibly refined and precise. Perhaps the best team final from a US team I've seen in 20 years in terms of execution. They are so good and consistent it almost makes it look boring. Until I was Biles throw the tricks on floor that are named before and my jaw still drops.

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Anonymous wrote:You are as dumb as a box of rocks. Men's gymnastics and women's rugby both won bronze medals, which are HUGE accomplishments.

But please go on with your discussion of our corporate and media overlords, you MAGA freak.

You prove my point. According to you (and whoever you are working here for), we are only allowed to say "great!" to whatever the overlords out in our face.

MAGA? What does that have to do with anything? Politicians benefits from suffocated public discourse. MAGA and progressives love silencing the public both.

Whomever I am working for? Oh, I see, since someone disagrees with you they have to be paid - that's the only possible reason for the disagreement? Got it.

And of course you are "allowed" to think whatever you like - but the rest of us, who aren't lunatic conspiracy theorists, are allowed to think you are an idiot. (See previous "dumb as a box of rocks" reference.)

Who is "us"? No, the whole world doesn't agree with you. I think you are wrong, and there others who do as well.

By us, I obviously meant others on this thread who think you're a moron. There apparently are several. And I'm sure there are people out there who agree with you, sadly, the number of lunatic conspiracy theorists out there is increasing.

Is this supposed to intimidate me? Who cares if people agree with you? What is your point in telling me this? I have seen this on Reddit, people say "well a bunch of us here think you are wrong so..."

You think those thst disagree with you automatically are crazy. You are divine in your own mind.

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Anonymous wrote:You are as dumb as a box of rocks. Men's gymnastics and women's rugby both won bronze medals, which are HUGE accomplishments.

But please go on with your discussion of our corporate and media overlords, you MAGA freak.

Ha, only in America do they celebrate coming in 3rd. You might as well just lose in 40th place. No one ever remembers the 3rd place winners 20 years from now. Only coming in first matters. You can lose by an inch or a mile. Losing is still losing.

How fast can you swim 100M? How's your floor routine?

I'm not competing in the Olympics, dimwit. How well could an Olympian build a house? How well could an Olympian do brain surgery? How well could an Olymian defend a client wrongly accused?

What a stupid argument. People who are bad at their jobs are allowed to be criticized by people who don't do the same line of work. Heck, the doctors and carpenters have greater impact on everyone's life anyway.

A bronze makes them the third best in the world at their job and probably the best in the country. Are you the best in the country at your job?

Or even top 3?

These are things only loser say.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.

If they are doing all these so called amazing things and falling and tripping and not sticking their landings then they are not amazing because they are not following through. So they really can't do these advanced things you are talking about, because they can't complete them. Think of the divers, they can do all sorts of things in the air but they also need to enter the water cleanly (but that is another story the divers' quality is diminishing also)

Watch the womens team final for gymnastics and please show me where the US team is "falling and tripping and not sticking their landings." Like be specific. There were a few hops or stepouts on their biggest tricks and one pretty minor fall. The vast majority of landings were absolutely stuck and all the gymnastics in between were incredibly refined and precise. Perhaps the best team final from a US team I've seen in 20 years in terms of execution. They are so good and consistent it almost makes it look boring. Until I was Biles throw the tricks on floor that are named before and my jaw still drops.

You are repeating what I said just using different words and saying well I don't care about those things. Well that is you. Doesn't change my point.