How much can MCPS waste?

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

They grasp it. They just want it swept under the rug so all the other grift and waste isn't found.

Or even better to make a mountain out of a molehill!

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

They grasp it. They just want it swept under the rug so all the other grift and waste isn't found.

Or even better to make a mountain out of a molehill!

Millions of dollars wasted is in fact a mountain, and not a molehill. Why are you so delusional?

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

They grasp it. They just want it swept under the rug so all the other grift and waste isn't found.

Or even better to make a mountain out of a molehill!

Millions of dollars wasted is in fact a mountain, and not a molehill. Why are you so delusional?

PP is not delusional. PP wants the corruption to continue.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

How do you get reprimanded for spending money that had to be spent due to circumstances? Sure you can speak about charging the vendor the fine, but was MCPS supposed to ignore the issue created?

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

How do you get reprimanded for spending money that had to be spent due to circumstances? Sure you can speak about charging the vendor the fine, but was MCPS supposed to ignore the issue created?

I think the IG’s point was fining the vendor and holding them accountable might have incentivized the vendor to be more bold and creative about solving the problems that made them violate their contract.

Instead MCPS bailed the vendor out and asked for $14 million to buy diesel buses they weren’t planning on buying, since the goal ready spent over $100 million on an electric bus fleet that never materialized.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

How do you get reprimanded for spending money that had to be spent due to circumstances? Sure you can speak about charging the vendor the fine, but was MCPS supposed to ignore the issue created?

I think the IG’s point was fining the vendor and holding them accountable might have incentivized the vendor to be more bold and creative about solving the problems that made them violate their contract.

Instead MCPS bailed the vendor out and asked for $14 million to buy diesel buses they weren’t planning on buying, since the goal ready spent over $100 million on an electric bus fleet that never materialized.

So, they placed a priority on friends or this vendor and cut it programs that hurt kids instead.

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Is that a rhetorical question or a challenge?

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

How do you get reprimanded for spending money that had to be spent due to circumstances? Sure you can speak about charging the vendor the fine, but was MCPS supposed to ignore the issue created?

Who created the issues?

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

How do you get reprimanded for spending money that had to be spent due to circumstances? Sure you can speak about charging the vendor the fine, but was MCPS supposed to ignore the issue created?

Who created the issues?

And who was contractually obligated for delays in delivery or for the buses being out of service for longer than the contract allowed due to mechanical failures? Highland Electric Fleets, not MCPS.

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Meh. Bet this is only a drop in the bucket of waste. It would be more fun to think there is some organized conspiracy, but the reality its a a band-aid financial methodology. Put a bandaid on and hope it goes away…and, it never does.

A dramatization:

“no teachers,you can’t have copy paper for worksheets. We spent all that money on legal fees and buy outs for bad administration. What do you think the purpose of a school is? To teach kids? Ha ha, teachers and parents, bless your heart.

By the way, 3rd graders can’t seem to read. Maybe you should add more worksheets? No paper? Then buy it yourself.

You dont make enough? Isn’t that what your union’s for? Then get the PTA to do it, that W school just had their PTA buy a new football stadium.

Oh, your school is 70% FARMS? Well glad we are getting those federal dollars for meals. Whew.

Oh, as I walk out the door, just want to let you know that we cut all supports and you now have 32 ADHD 8 yr olds in your class. Buh-bye, got to meet with the lawyers…”

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

They grasp it. They just want it swept under the rug so all the other grift and waste isn't found.

Or even better to make a mountain out of a molehill!

Millions of dollars wasted is in fact a mountain, and not a molehill. Why are you so delusional?

It really doesn't matter what they do. The Karens make up something new to complain about.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

They grasp it. They just want it swept under the rug so all the other grift and waste isn't found.

Or even better to make a mountain out of a molehill!

Millions of dollars wasted is in fact a mountain, and not a molehill. Why are you so delusional?

It really doesn't matter what they do. The Karens make up something new to complain about.

Karens are now minorities. Good to know. Thought they were white.

Karen new def = anyone who wants classrooms funded.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

They grasp it. They just want it swept under the rug so all the other grift and waste isn't found.

Or even better to make a mountain out of a molehill!

Millions of dollars wasted is in fact a mountain, and not a molehill. Why are you so delusional?

It really doesn't matter what they do. The Karens make up something new to complain about.

You are severely allergic to facts and accountability. Seek help.

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What about the hs rape culture and the coverups that led to mcps promotions. Many teachers got non renewed for trying to support their rape victim students

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently electric buses was a waste. Read the news.

Electric buses are cheaper in the long run because of lower maintenance— they just cost more upfront. That’s why MCPS was able to find a contractor who said they would front the upfront costs in return for long term savings. It was a win-win, unless you think MCPS should have kept the long term savings for themselves.

Now the IG is reporting the contractor might have difficulties supplying the buses, maybe because demand is so high. That’s not great but it doesn’t tell me anything about whether the original decision was reasonable or if the delay will cost MCPS anything.

But the people who hate MCPS (or more likely hate all public schools) just throw crap against the wall because they don’t need to have an intelligent discussion they just need to complain.

Tell us you didn’t read the report.

NP here
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/07/electric-school-buses-led-to-millions-in-wasteful-spending-montgomery-co-ig-says/

According to the article, the problem wasn't the electric bus contract itself, but the failure of the vendor to provide the busses on time and in good condition. There was a subsequent failure on MCPS part to not follow up on contract penalties of $372,000, which I would agree was wasteful. In the short term, MCPS may have spent more than they would have if they purchased diesel busses, but in the long term they should still show a cost savings.

I don't think the order of 90 diesel school buses for $14.7 million can be counted as "wasteful" - they have to purchase new busses periodically. The reason for diesel instead of electric for that order was the shortage of electric busses.

Thank you! Someone actually read and comprehended.

These MCPS karens won't read anything and are just looking to point fingers. It's how they fill their empty lives.

The Inspector General is just looking to point fingers?

The MCPS defenders don’t do well with common sense and logic.

Nor do the MCPS obsessed Karens who complain about anything and everything.

Except people complaining are hoping to motivate improvement in the system. The people who insist that MCPS is a stellar school system are just engaging in self-delusion to comfort themselves.

No, they are not

The people obsessing about this minutiae seem a little unhinged. MCPS is a large schools system with a massive budget something are bound to wrong but 99% it doesn't.

Hi, the Inspector General reprimanding MCPS for spending millions of dollars it shouldn't have had to spend and failing to fine a a vendor for hundreds of thousands of dollars it should have fined its vendor for missed deadlines on is not "obsessing about minutiae."

How do you not grasp how big of a deal this is? I don't get it.

They grasp it. They just want it swept under the rug so all the other grift and waste isn't found.

Or even better to make a mountain out of a molehill!

Millions of dollars wasted is in fact a mountain, and not a molehill. Why are you so delusional?

If it were millions, but most of us don't see education as a waste.