UCHICAGO SUMMER STUDENT EARLY NOTIFICATION

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Attending these programs likely precludes any summer job. Most kids will get much more of a leg up on college admissions by working at McDonald's or lifeguarding full time for the summer. It will also teach many more relevant life lessons than taking a "college course" in a protected environment.

I hear “get a job over a pay-to-play summer program” everywhere. However, the kids I know last cycle that got into top 20 schools ALL did a summer program. 100% of them. These are not highly competitive, free programs either. Just the regular Brown, Georgetown, NYU, USC type programs. It makes me think colleges like these as it shows intellectual curiosity or rigor or something.

It's the other way around. The students who are intellectual and smart would self-select to participate in the summer programs, to learn, to be inspired, to explore. These same students, are the ones who performed well academically. It's simple correlation, not causation.

I don't know about lifeguarding or McDonald's. However, if you get a challenging summer job, say, at Google. That qualification aligns well with academic rigor.

[Anonymous]

Wait. WHAT? UChicago has EDI and EDII, and now like a pre-EDI program?

What's next, early admission after middle school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reeling in those full pay parents early!

Exactly. And the parent posted it in ALL CAPS, as if it was breaking news.

These programs are a scam. They do not give any admissions advantage (rather smack of privilege/full pay).

But the schools can sure smell the type it will appeal to from a mile away.

Hence the breathless offer, which will expire if they don't rush to accept.

This isn't entirely true. A Yale student with a Youtube channel went through her admissions file and found that the officers rated her participation in "Yale Young Global Scholars" as very notable and gave her credit for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Attending these programs likely precludes any summer job. Most kids will get much more of a leg up on college admissions by working at McDonald's or lifeguarding full time for the summer. It will also teach many more relevant life lessons than taking a "college course" in a protected environment.

I hear “get a job over a pay-to-play summer program” everywhere. However, the kids I know last cycle that got into top 20 schools ALL did a summer program. 100% of them. These are not highly competitive, free programs either. Just the regular Brown, Georgetown, NYU, USC type programs. It makes me think colleges like these as it shows intellectual curiosity or rigor or something.

It's the other way around. The students who are intellectual and smart would self-select to participate in the summer programs, to learn, to be inspired, to explore. These same students, are the ones who performed well academically. It's simple correlation, not causation.

I don't know about lifeguarding or McDonald's. However, if you get a challenging summer job, say, at Google. That qualification aligns well with academic rigor.

https://abc7news.com/bay-area-high-school-graduate-google-hire-rejected-by-colleges-software-engineer/13897632/

meanwhile

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reeling in those full pay parents early!

Exactly. And the parent posted it in ALL CAPS, as if it was breaking news.

These programs are a scam. They do not give any admissions advantage (rather smack of privilege/full pay).

But the schools can sure smell the type it will appeal to from a mile away.

Hence the breathless offer, which will expire if they don't rush to accept.

This isn't entirely true. A Yale student with a Youtube channel went through her admissions file and found that the officers rated her participation in "Yale Young Global Scholars" as very notable and gave her credit for it.

https://globalscholars.yale.edu/news/yale-receives-record-breaking-10000-applications-two-week-summer-program

it's getting dumb

[Anonymous]

we don't have the money for the summer program but I think it's in everyone's interest that high caliber students settle early.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:we don't have the money for the summer program but I think it's in everyone's interest that high caliber students settle early.

I thought you were going to say it's an indicator the family is full pay, which is in the schools' best interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curious if anyone has already received a decision under this new program

I heard in a college admissions chat that some people have gotten "ED Zero" acceptances already but don't know any families personally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:we don't have the money for the summer program but I think it's in everyone's interest that high caliber students settle early.

it's 100% in high stats kids interest that the "competition" takes one seat and not a dozen in EA/RD rounds.

This is what the top high schools do, they basically say to that super high stats kid with legacy to Harvard to REA to Harvard and that's it - don't be an ass and then RD to ten other schools for fun. At some high schools, this is the explicit policy for SCEA schools (ie, some top) - if you're accepted to the SCEA, you can't do RD.

The more high schools can broker this, place as many of the top 20% of the class into a single college as possible, the better the outcome for the top 50% of the class.

[Anonymous]

It would best best if school ED deadlines were stacked, starting with the top.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would best best if school ED deadlines were stacked, starting with the top.

100%

Would also be better if every school with SCEA just moved to ED. They have the best FA so it really isn't a concern for working and LMC and MC families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would best best if school ED deadlines were stacked, starting with the top.

It is clear that you miss the point of ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Attending these programs likely precludes any summer job. Most kids will get much more of a leg up on college admissions by working at McDonald's or lifeguarding full time for the summer. It will also teach many more relevant life lessons than taking a "college course" in a protected environment.

I hear “get a job over a pay-to-play summer program” everywhere. However, the kids I know last cycle that got into top 20 schools ALL did a summer program. 100% of them. These are not highly competitive, free programs either. Just the regular Brown, Georgetown, NYU, USC type programs. It makes me think colleges like these as it shows intellectual curiosity or rigor or something.
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+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Attending these programs likely precludes any summer job. Most kids will get much more of a leg up on college admissions by working at McDonald's or lifeguarding full time for the summer. It will also teach many more relevant life lessons than taking a "college course" in a protected environment.

I hear “get a job over a pay-to-play summer program” everywhere. However, the kids I know last cycle that got into top 20 schools ALL did a summer program. 100% of them. These are not highly competitive, free programs either. Just the regular Brown, Georgetown, NYU, USC type programs. It makes me think colleges like these as it shows intellectual curiosity or rigor or something.
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+1

I think it shows lack of experience by some readers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would best best if school ED deadlines were stacked, starting with the top.

100%

Would also be better if every school with SCEA just moved to ED. They have the best FA so it really isn't a concern for working and LMC and MC families.

SCEA schools are that way because they don't need to lockdown the best talent. They know their yield will be 70-80% anyways.