Arlington Co. and its deer problem

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The library had a program and a book talk. Apparently some culling operations in yards is via nets and bolt guns. Book described the "eee eee eee" cries of fawns being killed. It's not painless.
See The Age of Deer pp 190-194.

I am not supportive of culling 40% of the deer.
But I encourage supporters to be clear just what means are planned. Just sharpshooter and head shots? Or....????

Not in my yard.

You don't headshot a deer. The skull is quite thick and a small target

Actually you do. I’ve done it. It’s essentially close-range shooting, at night.

The way these deer removal programs work is you bait an area where it’s safe to shoot with corn and apples every night for several weeks, and condition the deer to show up there. After a few weeks of steady feeding, the cullers set up and wait for the deer to come in as usual. They’re using highly accurate rifles with thermal scopes which see clearly in the dark. They are typically.308 caliber (about 4x more powerful than an AR15 by comparison) and are at ranges of about 30 yds. The rifles are equipped with suppressors that reduce the sound of the gunshot to a level where it sounds more like fireworks, and they shoot the deer in the head (so they don’t run) and drag them away as soon as they drop. Then they go back to their shooting location and wait for more deer to come to the bait. A good baited spot can yield 20 or more deer in a single night. But there’s a lot of work that has to go in beforehand.

This isn’t “hunting”. This is pest control. If actual hunters shot deer like this, they’d be arrested for poaching. But this isn’t hunting, so poaching techniques are the accepted standard.

Arlington is a little too populated for hunting with night vision. If you miss with 0.308, it's traveling 1000 yards.

You do know that this is done in DC quite often. There's never been a problem because they know what they are doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But we see this little herd on our walks. For about 2-1/2 years.
The male has two pronged antlers covered in velvet now and there are two spotted fawns.
We are very attached to them.
If I see signs and corn bait I will chain myself in the spot.

You’ll be chained, alright. To the bench in the paddy wagon when the cops haul your silly ass away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can they cull some of the rabbit population too?

And the car jackers population too?

One less carjacker in Clarendon today, courtesy of cops. Nice shooting, fellas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The library had a program and a book talk. Apparently some culling operations in yards is via nets and bolt guns. Book described the "eee eee eee" cries of fawns being killed. It's not painless.
See The Age of Deer pp 190-194.

I am not supportive of culling 40% of the deer.
But I encourage supporters to be clear just what means are planned. Just sharpshooter and head shots? Or....????

Not in my yard.

You don't headshot a deer. The skull is quite thick and a small target

Actually you do. I’ve done it. It’s essentially close-range shooting, at night.

The way these deer removal programs work is you bait an area where it’s safe to shoot with corn and apples every night for several weeks, and condition the deer to show up there. After a few weeks of steady feeding, the cullers set up and wait for the deer to come in as usual. They’re using highly accurate rifles with thermal scopes which see clearly in the dark. They are typically.308 caliber (about 4x more powerful than an AR15 by comparison) and are at ranges of about 30 yds. The rifles are equipped with suppressors that reduce the sound of the gunshot to a level where it sounds more like fireworks, and they shoot the deer in the head (so they don’t run) and drag them away as soon as they drop. Then they go back to their shooting location and wait for more deer to come to the bait. A good baited spot can yield 20 or more deer in a single night. But there’s a lot of work that has to go in beforehand.

This isn’t “hunting”. This is pest control. If actual hunters shot deer like this, they’d be arrested for poaching. But this isn’t hunting, so poaching techniques are the accepted standard.

Arlington is a little too populated for hunting with night vision. If you miss with 0.308, it's traveling 1000 yards.

Another person without a clue making their contribution


Do you really think they’re going to set up a culling area without taking the backstop into consideration?

I mean, just because you didn’t think of that, doesn’t mean other people are as dumb as you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The library had a program and a book talk. Apparently some culling operations in yards is via nets and bolt guns. Book described the "eee eee eee" cries of fawns being killed. It's not painless.
See The Age of Deer pp 190-194.

I am not supportive of culling 40% of the deer.
But I encourage supporters to be clear just what means are planned. Just sharpshooter and head shots? Or....????

Not in my yard.

You don't headshot a deer. The skull is quite thick and a small target

Actually you do. I’ve done it. It’s essentially close-range shooting, at night.

The way these deer removal programs work is you bait an area where it’s safe to shoot with corn and apples every night for several weeks, and condition the deer to show up there. After a few weeks of steady feeding, the cullers set up and wait for the deer to come in as usual. They’re using highly accurate rifles with thermal scopes which see clearly in the dark. They are typically.308 caliber (about 4x more powerful than an AR15 by comparison) and are at ranges of about 30 yds. The rifles are equipped with suppressors that reduce the sound of the gunshot to a level where it sounds more like fireworks, and they shoot the deer in the head (so they don’t run) and drag them away as soon as they drop. Then they go back to their shooting location and wait for more deer to come to the bait. A good baited spot can yield 20 or more deer in a single night. But there’s a lot of work that has to go in beforehand.

This isn’t “hunting”. This is pest control. If actual hunters shot deer like this, they’d be arrested for poaching. But this isn’t hunting, so poaching techniques are the accepted standard.

Arlington is a little too populated for hunting with night vision. If you miss with 0.308, it's traveling 1000 yards.

Another person without a clue making their contribution


Do you really think they’re going to set up a culling area without taking the backstop into consideration?

I mean, just because you didn’t think of that, doesn’t mean other people are as dumb as you.

I've shot deer, so I have some idea about how to do it. I just don't see a need to hunt at night, with a thermal scope, taking head shots. The deer around here aren't afraid of people and they are out during the day, particularly if you set up a "bait station." A salt lick would be fine and it wouldn't attract other vermin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But we see this little herd on our walks. For about 2-1/2 years.
The male has two pronged antlers covered in velvet now and there are two spotted fawns.
We are very attached to them.
If I see signs and corn bait I will chain myself in the spot.

You’ll be chained, alright. To the bench in the paddy wagon when the cops haul your silly ass away.

That's the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The library had a program and a book talk. Apparently some culling operations in yards is via nets and bolt guns. Book described the "eee eee eee" cries of fawns being killed. It's not painless.
See The Age of Deer pp 190-194.

I am not supportive of culling 40% of the deer.
But I encourage supporters to be clear just what means are planned. Just sharpshooter and head shots? Or....????

Not in my yard.

You don't headshot a deer. The skull is quite thick and a small target

Actually you do. I’ve done it. It’s essentially close-range shooting, at night.

The way these deer removal programs work is you bait an area where it’s safe to shoot with corn and apples every night for several weeks, and condition the deer to show up there. After a few weeks of steady feeding, the cullers set up and wait for the deer to come in as usual. They’re using highly accurate rifles with thermal scopes which see clearly in the dark. They are typically.308 caliber (about 4x more powerful than an AR15 by comparison) and are at ranges of about 30 yds. The rifles are equipped with suppressors that reduce the sound of the gunshot to a level where it sounds more like fireworks, and they shoot the deer in the head (so they don’t run) and drag them away as soon as they drop. Then they go back to their shooting location and wait for more deer to come to the bait. A good baited spot can yield 20 or more deer in a single night. But there’s a lot of work that has to go in beforehand.

This isn’t “hunting”. This is pest control. If actual hunters shot deer like this, they’d be arrested for poaching. But this isn’t hunting, so poaching techniques are the accepted standard.

Arlington is a little too populated for hunting with night vision. If you miss with 0.308, it's traveling 1000 yards.

Another person without a clue making their contribution


Do you really think they’re going to set up a culling area without taking the backstop into consideration?

I mean, just because you didn’t think of that, doesn’t mean other people are as dumb as you.

I've shot deer, so I have some idea about how to do it. I just don't see a need to hunt at night, with a thermal scope, taking head shots. The deer around here aren't afraid of people and they are out during the day, particularly if you set up a "bait station." A salt lick would be fine and it wouldn't attract other vermin.

Because this isn’t hunting. It’s pest control. You’re thinking about this like a hunter, not an exterminator. Stop thinking like a hunter, planning on one shot on one deer to fill a tag. Think about it like a poacher who gets paid by the carcass. The more deer killed, the more $$$ you make.

They shoot at baited stations with suppressed rifles with thermal scopes in the middle of the night to avoid offending the delicate sensibilities of people like the snowflakes on this thread who are clutching their pearls at the very idea of shooting deer in (gasp!!!) north Arlington.


This has nothing to do with being sporting or fair chase or hunting ethics. This is about killing as many deer in as few man-hours as possible.

If it were up to me, I’d just poison them instead of shooting them. It would take them longer to die, and they’d suffer, but then I at least wouldn’t have to listen to bleating idiots like the ones on this thread prattling on about how “dangerous” shooting them is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The library had a program and a book talk. Apparently some culling operations in yards is via nets and bolt guns. Book described the "eee eee eee" cries of fawns being killed. It's not painless.
See The Age of Deer pp 190-194.

I am not supportive of culling 40% of the deer.
But I encourage supporters to be clear just what means are planned. Just sharpshooter and head shots? Or....????

Not in my yard.

You don't headshot a deer. The skull is quite thick and a small target

Actually you do. I’ve done it. It’s essentially close-range shooting, at night.

The way these deer removal programs work is you bait an area where it’s safe to shoot with corn and apples every night for several weeks, and condition the deer to show up there. After a few weeks of steady feeding, the cullers set up and wait for the deer to come in as usual. They’re using highly accurate rifles with thermal scopes which see clearly in the dark. They are typically.308 caliber (about 4x more powerful than an AR15 by comparison) and are at ranges of about 30 yds. The rifles are equipped with suppressors that reduce the sound of the gunshot to a level where it sounds more like fireworks, and they shoot the deer in the head (so they don’t run) and drag them away as soon as they drop. Then they go back to their shooting location and wait for more deer to come to the bait. A good baited spot can yield 20 or more deer in a single night. But there’s a lot of work that has to go in beforehand.

This isn’t “hunting”. This is pest control. If actual hunters shot deer like this, they’d be arrested for poaching. But this isn’t hunting, so poaching techniques are the accepted standard.

Arlington is a little too populated for hunting with night vision. If you miss with 0.308, it's traveling 1000 yards.

You do know that this is done in DC quite often. There's never been a problem because they know what they are doing.

No, they don’t know this. They’re just another DCUM expert, chiming in and letting us know they don’t have a f*****g clue.

[Anonymous]

Too many deer, cull them all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too many deer, cull them all

Yep, ALL of them. Extirpate them from the county completely.

They’ll eventually repopulate as deer come in from other areas, but it will take a decade or so. I’m the meantime, our forested areas and parks can recover and have some breathing room for younger trees to get a chance.

Kill them all. Every. Last. Deer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The library had a program and a book talk. Apparently some culling operations in yards is via nets and bolt guns. Book described the "eee eee eee" cries of fawns being killed. It's not painless.
See The Age of Deer pp 190-194.

I am not supportive of culling 40% of the deer.
But I encourage supporters to be clear just what means are planned. Just sharpshooter and head shots? Or....????

Not in my yard.

You don't headshot a deer. The skull is quite thick and a small target

Actually you do. I’ve done it. It’s essentially close-range shooting, at night.

The way these deer removal programs work is you bait an area where it’s safe to shoot with corn and apples every night for several weeks, and condition the deer to show up there. After a few weeks of steady feeding, the cullers set up and wait for the deer to come in as usual. They’re using highly accurate rifles with thermal scopes which see clearly in the dark. They are typically.308 caliber (about 4x more powerful than an AR15 by comparison) and are at ranges of about 30 yds. The rifles are equipped with suppressors that reduce the sound of the gunshot to a level where it sounds more like fireworks, and they shoot the deer in the head (so they don’t run) and drag them away as soon as they drop. Then they go back to their shooting location and wait for more deer to come to the bait. A good baited spot can yield 20 or more deer in a single night. But there’s a lot of work that has to go in beforehand.

This isn’t “hunting”. This is pest control. If actual hunters shot deer like this, they’d be arrested for poaching. But this isn’t hunting, so poaching techniques are the accepted standard.

Arlington is a little too populated for hunting with night vision. If you miss with 0.308, it's traveling 1000 yards.

Another person without a clue making their contribution


Do you really think they’re going to set up a culling area without taking the backstop into consideration?

I mean, just because you didn’t think of that, doesn’t mean other people are as dumb as you.

I've shot deer, so I have some idea about how to do it. I just don't see a need to hunt at night, with a thermal scope, taking head shots. The deer around here aren't afraid of people and they are out during the day, particularly if you set up a "bait station." A salt lick would be fine and it wouldn't attract other vermin.

Because this isn’t hunting. It’s pest control. You’re thinking about this like a hunter, not an exterminator. Stop thinking like a hunter, planning on one shot on one deer to fill a tag. Think about it like a poacher who gets paid by the carcass. The more deer killed, the more $$$ you make.

They shoot at baited stations with suppressed rifles with thermal scopes in the middle of the night to avoid offending the delicate sensibilities of people like the snowflakes on this thread who are clutching their pearls at the very idea of shooting deer in (gasp!!!) north Arlington.


This has nothing to do with being sporting or fair chase or hunting ethics. This is about killing as many deer in as few man-hours as possible.

If it were up to me, I’d just poison them instead of shooting them. It would take them longer to die, and they’d suffer, but then I at least wouldn’t have to listen to bleating idiots like the ones on this thread prattling on about how “dangerous” shooting them is.

Yes we already know that you are a bad person. That’s why we are arguing with you. Good thing you aren’t involved in any deer control around here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The library had a program and a book talk. Apparently some culling operations in yards is via nets and bolt guns. Book described the "eee eee eee" cries of fawns being killed. It's not painless.
See The Age of Deer pp 190-194.

I am not supportive of culling 40% of the deer.
But I encourage supporters to be clear just what means are planned. Just sharpshooter and head shots? Or....????

Not in my yard.

You don't headshot a deer. The skull is quite thick and a small target

Actually you do. I’ve done it. It’s essentially close-range shooting, at night.

The way these deer removal programs work is you bait an area where it’s safe to shoot with corn and apples every night for several weeks, and condition the deer to show up there. After a few weeks of steady feeding, the cullers set up and wait for the deer to come in as usual. They’re using highly accurate rifles with thermal scopes which see clearly in the dark. They are typically.308 caliber (about 4x more powerful than an AR15 by comparison) and are at ranges of about 30 yds. The rifles are equipped with suppressors that reduce the sound of the gunshot to a level where it sounds more like fireworks, and they shoot the deer in the head (so they don’t run) and drag them away as soon as they drop. Then they go back to their shooting location and wait for more deer to come to the bait. A good baited spot can yield 20 or more deer in a single night. But there’s a lot of work that has to go in beforehand.

This isn’t “hunting”. This is pest control. If actual hunters shot deer like this, they’d be arrested for poaching. But this isn’t hunting, so poaching techniques are the accepted standard.

Arlington is a little too populated for hunting with night vision. If you miss with 0.308, it's traveling 1000 yards.

Another person without a clue making their contribution


Do you really think they’re going to set up a culling area without taking the backstop into consideration?

I mean, just because you didn’t think of that, doesn’t mean other people are as dumb as you.

I've shot deer, so I have some idea about how to do it. I just don't see a need to hunt at night, with a thermal scope, taking head shots. The deer around here aren't afraid of people and they are out during the day, particularly if you set up a "bait station." A salt lick would be fine and it wouldn't attract other vermin.

Because this isn’t hunting. It’s pest control. You’re thinking about this like a hunter, not an exterminator. Stop thinking like a hunter, planning on one shot on one deer to fill a tag. Think about it like a poacher who gets paid by the carcass. The more deer killed, the more $$$ you make.

They shoot at baited stations with suppressed rifles with thermal scopes in the middle of the night to avoid offending the delicate sensibilities of people like the snowflakes on this thread who are clutching their pearls at the very idea of shooting deer in (gasp!!!) north Arlington.


This has nothing to do with being sporting or fair chase or hunting ethics. This is about killing as many deer in as few man-hours as possible.

If it were up to me, I’d just poison them instead of shooting them. It would take them longer to die, and they’d suffer, but then I at least wouldn’t have to listen to bleating idiots like the ones on this thread prattling on about how “dangerous” shooting them is.

Yes we already know that you are a bad person. That’s why we are arguing with you. Good thing you aren’t involved in any deer control around here.

Meh. You have no idea how bad a person I’ve had to be. I’ve killed people on your behalf. I’m not sure how many, and I don’t worry about it anymore. Deer? Deer are of zero emotional concern to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too many deer, cull them all

It would cost too much doe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many deer, cull them all

It would cost too much doe.

A lot of bucks, for sure.

[Anonymous]

There’s a virtual town hall at 7pm on the 11th.

https://www.arlingtonva.us/Government/Departments/Parks-Recreation/Parks-Events/Deer-Management-Project-Virtual-Info-Session?transfer=6bf41310-d543-4ea3-82d5-8f9836c8eac3


Get in there and flood the zone! Shut it down! Let them know you won’t stand for murdering deer so developers can convert our parks to housing. Leave the deer alone!!!!! Feed them don’t kill them. Guns have absolutely no place in our Arlington!