ENCL Nationals - Girls

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Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

quit counting other people's money...why do you care so much what someone else does with their time and money? so much salt on the boards today from people that aren't even in Seattle

It’s all about money in travel soccer isn’t it? A system built not to identify the best players, but the best players whose families can pay the most.

This must be the EDP parent who thinks EDP can run circles around ECNL teams....RME. Do you understand money is not part of colleges recruiting the players? The players that go to D1 schools who are not skilled enough get ZERO scholarship and won't see playing time until they are Juniors or Seniors. College coaches who have been watching players in many cases for long before your DD was even born, know exactly what they are looking at and what they are looking for. ECNL has over 70% of these D1 scholarship and players. It's not because Daddy and Mommy are wealthy.

ECNL has the best players on the girls side and by a LARGE margin especially by the U15 year. This isn't anything new and is 100% fact based by the number of college scholarships. Also has nothing to do with money. If you want to complain about money, point the finger at yourself as well. Inner city families cannot afford any type of Club soccer.

Girls Academy cost is almost identical cost but a lower skill level except a handful of teams Nationwide which is now shrinking even more due to the recent additions of GA powerhouses.

Oh,speaking of, the reason why EDP players are not recruited is because of the level of competion. If you are trying to save money and stay USYS AND want your child to somehow pull D1 interest, then you are just going pay anyway just like the ECNL players! This through USYS tournaments and showcases (if your USYS team isn't making it to regionals, good luck to you) and/or ODP events and showcases (your child better at least make the ODP Regional team).

Whether you like it or not, these are the facts. Sucks that it has to be this way, I agree. Girls soccer is rich suburb sport no matter the league.

Which GA "Powerhouses" going to ECNL are you referring to.

South Shore Select g2010 didn't make it out of group
Lonestar G2010 didn't even make it to
group
Ukies g2010 didn't make it out of group
Nationals did make it out of group and are going to Finals in Virginia.

In case the poster didn't make it obvious what age group they represent, now you know, lol. And, I were to place a bet, it's a SYC parent who is overjoyed at the 2010 Union's big loss. Even funnier is how clueless this poster is...Lonestar joined ECNL-RL.

Hey parent, not sure if are able to think outside the box, but GA doesn't just consist of 2010. I'd tell you to research how many Nat'l Championships, CLUB WIDE, FCV, Nationals, Colorado and South Shore have but I don't know if you are capable of figuring that out. Ukies may not have any but they have some quality teams at younger ages too.

Enjoy your competition with Celtic, Armour, VRSC, Skyline, and the "new" FCV though. That list is awfully intimidating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

North American Cup and Showcase Cup still have tons of scouts. Stay mad though.

Scouts love walking past all the best teams so they can watch teams that didn't win their league.

Scouts don't just watch games or teams. They already have a list of players they are there to see. They will watch a player on their list for maybe 20-30 minutes and then go watch another on their list. They don't care on which field or bracket the team is playing, and they certainly don't care about the score. They care about what the player did during their 20 minutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course this discussion devolves into ECNL vs GA vs EDP…this all most of you all want to talk about, meanwhile, our kids barely know how to kick a ball, as evidenced by the local “best” getting their clocks cleaned by teams from, oh, just about ANYWHERE in America.

I know right? Just imagine how bad your DD's team would get beat!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

quit counting other people's money...why do you care so much what someone else does with their time and money? so much salt on the boards today from people that aren't even in Seattle

It’s all about money in travel soccer isn’t it? A system built not to identify the best players, but the best players whose families can pay the most.

This must be the EDP parent who thinks EDP can run circles around ECNL teams....RME. Do you understand money is not part of colleges recruiting the players? The players that go to D1 schools who are not skilled enough get ZERO scholarship and won't see playing time until they are Juniors or Seniors. College coaches who have been watching players in many cases for long before your DD was even born, know exactly what they are looking at and what they are looking for. ECNL has over 70% of these D1 scholarship and players. It's not because Daddy and Mommy are wealthy.

ECNL has the best players on the girls side and by a LARGE margin especially by the U15 year. This isn't anything new and is 100% fact based by the number of college scholarships. Also has nothing to do with money. If you want to complain about money, point the finger at yourself as well. Inner city families cannot afford any type of Club soccer.

Girls Academy cost is almost identical cost but a lower skill level except a handful of teams Nationwide which is now shrinking even more due to the recent additions of GA powerhouses.

Oh,speaking of, the reason why EDP players are not recruited is because of the level of competion. If you are trying to save money and stay USYS AND want your child to somehow pull D1 interest, then you are just going pay anyway just like the ECNL players! This through USYS tournaments and showcases (if your USYS team isn't making it to regionals, good luck to you) and/or ODP events and showcases (your child better at least make the ODP Regional team).

Whether you like it or not, these are the facts. Sucks that it has to be this way, I agree. Girls soccer is rich suburb sport no matter the league.

Which GA "Powerhouses" going to ECNL are you referring to.

South Shore Select g2010 didn't make it out of group
Lonestar G2010 didn't even make it to
group
Ukies g2010 didn't make it out of group
Nationals did make it out of group and are going to Finals in Virginia.

In case the poster didn't make it obvious what age group they represent, now you know, lol. And, I were to place a bet, it's a SYC parent who is overjoyed at the 2010 Union's big loss. Even funnier is how clueless this poster is...Lonestar joined ECNL-RL.

Hey parent, not sure if are able to think outside the box, but GA doesn't just consist of 2010. I'd tell you to research how many Nat'l Championships, CLUB WIDE, FCV, Nationals, Colorado and South Shore have but I don't know if you are capable of figuring that out. Ukies may not have any but they have some quality teams at younger ages too.

Enjoy your competition with Celtic, Armour, VRSC, Skyline, and the "new" FCV though. That list is awfully intimidating.

I can list similar results for the clubs leaving GA for ECNL at every age group.

The only "powerhouse" GA will miss is Nationals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

quit counting other people's money...why do you care so much what someone else does with their time and money? so much salt on the boards today from people that aren't even in Seattle

It’s all about money in travel soccer isn’t it? A system built not to identify the best players, but the best players whose families can pay the most.

This must be the EDP parent who thinks EDP can run circles around ECNL teams....RME. Do you understand money is not part of colleges recruiting the players? The players that go to D1 schools who are not skilled enough get ZERO scholarship and won't see playing time until they are Juniors or Seniors. College coaches who have been watching players in many cases for long before your DD was even born, know exactly what they are looking at and what they are looking for. ECNL has over 70% of these D1 scholarship and players. It's not because Daddy and Mommy are wealthy.

ECNL has the best players on the girls side and by a LARGE margin especially by the U15 year. This isn't anything new and is 100% fact based by the number of college scholarships. Also has nothing to do with money. If you want to complain about money, point the finger at yourself as well. Inner city families cannot afford any type of Club soccer.

Girls Academy cost is almost identical cost but a lower skill level except a handful of teams Nationwide which is now shrinking even more due to the recent additions of GA powerhouses.

Oh,speaking of, the reason why EDP players are not recruited is because of the level of competion. If you are trying to save money and stay USYS AND want your child to somehow pull D1 interest, then you are just going pay anyway just like the ECNL players! This through USYS tournaments and showcases (if your USYS team isn't making it to regionals, good luck to you) and/or ODP events and showcases (your child better at least make the ODP Regional team).

Whether you like it or not, these are the facts. Sucks that it has to be this way, I agree. Girls soccer is rich suburb sport no matter the league.

Which GA "Powerhouses" going to ECNL are you referring to.

South Shore Select g2010 didn't make it out of group
Lonestar G2010 didn't even make it to
group
Ukies g2010 didn't make it out of group
Nationals did make it out of group and are going to Finals in Virginia.

In case the poster didn't make it obvious what age group they represent, now you know, lol. And, I were to place a bet, it's a SYC parent who is overjoyed at the 2010 Union's big loss. Even funnier is how clueless this poster is...Lonestar joined ECNL-RL.

Hey parent, not sure if are able to think outside the box, but GA doesn't just consist of 2010. I'd tell you to research how many Nat'l Championships, CLUB WIDE, FCV, Nationals, Colorado and South Shore have but I don't know if you are capable of figuring that out. Ukies may not have any but they have some quality teams at younger ages too.

Enjoy your competition with Celtic, Armour, VRSC, Skyline, and the "new" FCV though. That list is awfully intimidating.

I can list similar results for the clubs leaving GA for ECNL at every age group.

The only "powerhouse" GA will miss is Nationals.

I watched the South Shore Selece G2010 team lose to team with players half their size.

SSS played direct the entire game and rarely completed more than 3 passes without losing the ball.

They'll fit in great in ECNL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

quit counting other people's money...why do you care so much what someone else does with their time and money? so much salt on the boards today from people that aren't even in Seattle

It’s all about money in travel soccer isn’t it? A system built not to identify the best players, but the best players whose families can pay the most.

This must be the EDP parent who thinks EDP can run circles around ECNL teams....RME. Do you understand money is not part of colleges recruiting the players? The players that go to D1 schools who are not skilled enough get ZERO scholarship and won't see playing time until they are Juniors or Seniors. College coaches who have been watching players in many cases for long before your DD was even born, know exactly what they are looking at and what they are looking for. ECNL has over 70% of these D1 scholarship and players. It's not because Daddy and Mommy are wealthy.

ECNL has the best players on the girls side and by a LARGE margin especially by the U15 year. This isn't anything new and is 100% fact based by the number of college scholarships. Also has nothing to do with money. If you want to complain about money, point the finger at yourself as well. Inner city families cannot afford any type of Club soccer.

Girls Academy cost is almost identical cost but a lower skill level except a handful of teams Nationwide which is now shrinking even more due to the recent additions of GA powerhouses.

Oh,speaking of, the reason why EDP players are not recruited is because of the level of competion. If you are trying to save money and stay USYS AND want your child to somehow pull D1 interest, then you are just going pay anyway just like the ECNL players! This through USYS tournaments and showcases (if your USYS team isn't making it to regionals, good luck to you) and/or ODP events and showcases (your child better at least make the ODP Regional team).

Whether you like it or not, these are the facts. Sucks that it has to be this way, I agree. Girls soccer is rich suburb sport no matter the league.

"This must be the EDP parent who thinks EDP can run circles around ECNL teams." Spoiler alert: It's not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NVA 08s are now out.

ooof seeing a lot of va at the bottom of brackets now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

quit counting other people's money...why do you care so much what someone else does with their time and money? so much salt on the boards today from people that aren't even in Seattle

It’s all about money in travel soccer isn’t it? A system built not to identify the best players, but the best players whose families can pay the most.

This must be the EDP parent who thinks EDP can run circles around ECNL teams....RME. Do you understand money is not part of colleges recruiting the players? The players that go to D1 schools who are not skilled enough get ZERO scholarship and won't see playing time until they are Juniors or Seniors. College coaches who have been watching players in many cases for long before your DD was even born, know exactly what they are looking at and what they are looking for. ECNL has over 70% of these D1 scholarship and players. It's not because Daddy and Mommy are wealthy.

ECNL has the best players on the girls side and by a LARGE margin especially by the U15 year. This isn't anything new and is 100% fact based by the number of college scholarships. Also has nothing to do with money. If you want to complain about money, point the finger at yourself as well. Inner city families cannot afford any type of Club soccer.

Girls Academy cost is almost identical cost but a lower skill level except a handful of teams Nationwide which is now shrinking even more due to the recent additions of GA powerhouses.

Oh,speaking of, the reason why EDP players are not recruited is because of the level of competion. If you are trying to save money and stay USYS AND want your child to somehow pull D1 interest, then you are just going pay anyway just like the ECNL players! This through USYS tournaments and showcases (if your USYS team isn't making it to regionals, good luck to you) and/or ODP events and showcases (your child better at least make the ODP Regional team).

Whether you like it or not, these are the facts. Sucks that it has to be this way, I agree. Girls soccer is rich suburb sport no matter the league.

Which GA "Powerhouses" going to ECNL are you referring to.

South Shore Select g2010 didn't make it out of group
Lonestar G2010 didn't even make it to
group
Ukies g2010 didn't make it out of group
Nationals did make it out of group and are going to Finals in Virginia.

In case the poster didn't make it obvious what age group they represent, now you know, lol. And, I were to place a bet, it's a SYC parent who is overjoyed at the 2010 Union's big loss. Even funnier is how clueless this poster is...Lonestar joined ECNL-RL.

Hey parent, not sure if are able to think outside the box, but GA doesn't just consist of 2010. I'd tell you to research how many Nat'l Championships, CLUB WIDE, FCV, Nationals, Colorado and South Shore have but I don't know if you are capable of figuring that out. Ukies may not have any but they have some quality teams at younger ages too.

Enjoy your competition with Celtic, Armour, VRSC, Skyline, and the "new" FCV though. That list is awfully intimidating.

I can list similar results for the clubs leaving GA for ECNL at every age group.

The only "powerhouse" GA will miss is Nationals.

I watched the South Shore Selece G2010 team lose to team with players half their size.

SSS played direct the entire game and rarely completed more than 3 passes without losing the ball.

They'll fit in great in ECNL.

Or they will likely be at the bottom of the New England Division next year because they are not that good.

ECNL +70% D1 Players now. GA is 20% and going down. Guess I know which league I would want to be in too. It’s past obvious which league is more competitive, or at least to those that respect facts and numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

North American Cup and Showcase Cup still have tons of scouts. Stay mad though.

Scouts love walking past all the best teams so they can watch teams that didn't win their league.

If you do not know, don't post. Showcase A and B games have tons of coaches. They are looking at players not teams. They do not care if your team is the worst out there if there is some reason to watch you. They know who they want to watch before they show up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

North American Cup and Showcase Cup still have tons of scouts. Stay mad though.

Scouts love walking past all the best teams so they can watch teams that didn't win their league.

If you do not know, don't post. Showcase A and B games have tons of coaches. They are looking at players not teams. They do not care if your team is the worst out there if there is some reason to watch you. They know who they want to watch before they show up.

Yea, recruiters are jumping out of their socks to watch the worst team out there.

Say it back to yourself out loud so you can hear how stupid it sounds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

North American Cup and Showcase Cup still have tons of scouts. Stay mad though.

Scouts love walking past all the best teams so they can watch teams that didn't win their league.

If you do not know, don't post. Showcase A and B games have tons of coaches. They are looking at players not teams. They do not care if your team is the worst out there if there is some reason to watch you. They know who they want to watch before they show up.

Yea, recruiters are jumping out of their socks to watch the worst team out there.

Say it back to yourself out loud so you can hear how stupid it sounds.

you're so clueless...recruiters/scouts/college coaches aren't there to see a team play. They're there for an individual player that has reached out and they're interested in. they're not just walking around tournaments looking for games to watch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

North American Cup and Showcase Cup still have tons of scouts. Stay mad though.

Scouts love walking past all the best teams so they can watch teams that didn't win their league.

If you do not know, don't post. Showcase A and B games have tons of coaches. They are looking at players not teams. They do not care if your team is the worst out there if there is some reason to watch you. They know who they want to watch before they show up.

Yea, recruiters are jumping out of their socks to watch the worst team out there.

Say it back to yourself out loud so you can hear how stupid it sounds.

you're so clueless...recruiters/scouts/college coaches aren't there to see a team play. They're there for an individual player that has reached out and they're interested in. they're not just walking around tournaments looking for games to watch.

I agree with you.

But the best players aren't on the worst teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

North American Cup and Showcase Cup still have tons of scouts. Stay mad though.

Scouts love walking past all the best teams so they can watch teams that didn't win their league.

If you do not know, don't post. Showcase A and B games have tons of coaches. They are looking at players not teams. They do not care if your team is the worst out there if there is some reason to watch you. They know who they want to watch before they show up.

Yea, recruiters are jumping out of their socks to watch the worst team out there.

Say it back to yourself out loud so you can hear how stupid it sounds.

you're so clueless...recruiters/scouts/college coaches aren't there to see a team play. They're there for an individual player that has reached out and they're interested in. they're not just walking around tournaments looking for games to watch.

I agree with you.

But the best players aren't on the worst teams.

There are lots of reasons why a good player might play on a bad (still ECNL) team. Maybe they really like the coach, may it’s the only ECNL team within reasonable driving, maybe it costs less, maybe the playing style better suits their game, maybe the coaches or players on another team are aholes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NVA 09s lost to Tennessee essentially knocking them out of playoffs already. Tennessee was the worst team in the group.

Pitiful.

That team has been trending downward...new "talent" not planning out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you flew to Seattle for anything but the Champions bracket, congratulations. You're a loser and a fool.

North American Cup and Showcase Cup still have tons of scouts. Stay mad though.

Scouts love walking past all the best teams so they can watch teams that didn't win their league.

If you do not know, don't post. Showcase A and B games have tons of coaches. They are looking at players not teams. They do not care if your team is the worst out there if there is some reason to watch you. They know who they want to watch before they show up.

Yea, recruiters are jumping out of their socks to watch the worst team out there.

Say it back to yourself out loud so you can hear how stupid it sounds.

you're so clueless...recruiters/scouts/college coaches aren't there to see a team play. They're there for an individual player that has reached out and they're interested in. they're not just walking around tournaments looking for games to watch.

I agree with you.

But the best players aren't on the worst teams.

There are lots of reasons why a good player might play on a bad (still ECNL) team. Maybe they really like the coach, may it’s the only ECNL team within reasonable driving, maybe it costs less, maybe the playing style better suits their game, maybe the coaches or players on another team are aholes.

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Maybe the other parents on other teams think their DD poop rainbows. Maybe you don’t have a freaking clue what you’re talking about. But scouts are watching players - not teams.