SAT 1600 Score, CS Major

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

I aspire for them mental and physical well being. I don't want them having to prove themselves to people like you that the only way to happiness is having and being it all. AT a certain point we all have to choose our priorities, because if we make everything our priority-perfect husband, perfect career and perfect kids we will suffer.

How about you?

So then skip the Ivy degree and become a FT pilates instructor..give your kid the money to invest.

Maybe my Ivy son will be OK with this scenario, but I doubt it. You are conjuring up an image of people that graduated in the 1980s and 1990s that I think it is getting consigned to the dustbin.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

I aspire for them mental and physical well being. I don't want them having to prove themselves to people like you that the only way to happiness is having and being it all. AT a certain point we all have to choose our priorities, because if we make everything our priority-perfect husband, perfect career and perfect kids we will suffer.

How about you?

So then skip the Ivy degree and become a FT pilates instructor..give your kid the money to invest.

Maybe my Ivy son will be OK with this scenario, but I doubt it. You are conjuring up an image of people that graduated in the 1980s and 1990s that I think it is getting consigned to the dustbin.

No--I am NOT saying that, I am saying she doesnt have to have a guy more educated with a better career than her to be happy. I am saying if she decides kids are her priority pivoting her career is OK too. I am telling her she can have whatever she wants but having ALL you want is often more trouble than it is worth---thats how people burn out or get sick.

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Anonymous wrote:Girl or boy? Girls with high stats will likely do better with CS applications than boys.

This is not true!

For CS (and engineering) that’s absolutely true. They will be at a disadvantage for most other majors.

Agree. CMU especially trying to keep a gender equal class.

+1 and caltech.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

I aspire for them mental and physical well being. I don't want them having to prove themselves to people like you that the only way to happiness is having and being it all. AT a certain point we all have to choose our priorities, because if we make everything our priority-perfect husband, perfect career and perfect kids we will suffer.

How about you?

So then skip the Ivy degree and become a FT pilates instructor..give your kid the money to invest.

Maybe my Ivy son will be OK with this scenario, but I doubt it. You are conjuring up an image of people that graduated in the 1980s and 1990s that I think it is getting consigned to the dustbin.

I think out of necessity, not preference. DP.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

I aspire for them mental and physical well being. I don't want them having to prove themselves to people like you that the only way to happiness is having and being it all. AT a certain point we all have to choose our priorities, because if we make everything our priority-perfect husband, perfect career and perfect kids we will suffer.

How about you?

So then skip the Ivy degree and become a FT pilates instructor..give your kid the money to invest.

Maybe my Ivy son will be OK with this scenario, but I doubt it. You are conjuring up an image of people that graduated in the 1980s and 1990s that I think it is getting consigned to the dustbin.

No--I am NOT saying that, I am saying she doesnt have to have a guy more educated with a better career than her to be happy. I am saying if she decides kids are her priority pivoting her career is OK too. I am telling her she can have whatever she wants but having ALL you want is often more trouble than it is worth---thats how people burn out or get sick.

You are losing me. Didn't you literally say you want your daughter to marry some Ivy guy making $$$$s, so she can now become a PT pilates instructor?

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MCPS magnet, 1580 SAT, 4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa

UMD with merit.

Denied at MIT, CMU, etc.. WL at UMich, ultimately decided not interested after getting off the wl.

It's brutal, especially if you are a white/asian male.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

Wow. What is UVA looking for, if not your kid?

UVA is looking for 4.4+ WGPA from TJ. Nothing less and cannot be compensated by any other awards/accomplishments.

I double down on my "Wow" lol

PP said DC got rejected by all top 20s. None of those schools would take him because his WGPA is 4.3 not 4.4???

All the Top 20s have multiple applicants from TJ and they’re not going to take more than a few of them.

PP you responded to-- good point!

I’m a TJ parent and the PP is consistent with our experience. SAT 1580 and 4.33 WGPA. Ended up at UMD CS (ranked 18th)

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

I aspire for them mental and physical well being. I don't want them having to prove themselves to people like you that the only way to happiness is having and being it all. AT a certain point we all have to choose our priorities, because if we make everything our priority-perfect husband, perfect career and perfect kids we will suffer.

How about you?

So then skip the Ivy degree and become a FT pilates instructor..give your kid the money to invest.

Maybe my Ivy son will be OK with this scenario, but I doubt it. You are conjuring up an image of people that graduated in the 1980s and 1990s that I think it is getting consigned to the dustbin.

No--I am NOT saying that, I am saying she doesnt have to have a guy more educated with a better career than her to be happy. I am saying if she decides kids are her priority pivoting her career is OK too. I am telling her she can have whatever she wants but having ALL you want is often more trouble than it is worth---thats how people burn out or get sick.

You are losing me. Didn't you literally say you want your daughter to marry some Ivy guy making $$$$s, so she can now become a PT pilates instructor?

NO I said my daughter sees that in our area her moms' friend covet and popularize this scenario.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

I aspire for them mental and physical well being. I don't want them having to prove themselves to people like you that the only way to happiness is having and being it all. AT a certain point we all have to choose our priorities, because if we make everything our priority-perfect husband, perfect career and perfect kids we will suffer.

How about you?

So then skip the Ivy degree and become a FT pilates instructor..give your kid the money to invest.

Maybe my Ivy son will be OK with this scenario, but I doubt it. You are conjuring up an image of people that graduated in the 1980s and 1990s that I think it is getting consigned to the dustbin.

No--I am NOT saying that, I am saying she doesnt have to have a guy more educated with a better career than her to be happy. I am saying if she decides kids are her priority pivoting her career is OK too. I am telling her she can have whatever she wants but having ALL you want is often more trouble than it is worth---thats how people burn out or get sick.

You are losing me. Didn't you literally say you want your daughter to marry some Ivy guy making $$$$s, so she can now become a PT pilates instructor?

NO I said my daughter sees that in our area her moms' friend covet and popularize this scenario.

her friends moms meant to say

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

Wow. What is UVA looking for, if not your kid?

UVA is looking for 4.4+ WGPA from TJ. Nothing less and cannot be compensated by any other awards/accomplishments.

Exactly, my daughter is a TJ senior and with WGPA of 4.37. Was told by a counselor UVA is difficult even with national award. UMich is more promising.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

Wow. What is UVA looking for, if not your kid?

UVA is looking for 4.4+ WGPA from TJ. Nothing less and cannot be compensated by any other awards/accomplishments.

I double down on my "Wow" lol

PP said DC got rejected by all top 20s. None of those schools would take him because his WGPA is 4.3 not 4.4???

All the Top 20s have multiple applicants from TJ and they’re not going to take more than a few of them.

PP you responded to-- good point!

I’m a TJ parent and the PP is consistent with our experience. SAT 1580 and 4.33 WGPA. Ended up at UMD CS (ranked 18th)

Popular destination for TJ. While not a complete list, last year looked like UMD was only surpassed by UVA.
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/2023seniorissue

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One thing to keep in mind regarding TJ applicants is that all these talks about WGPA>4.4+ and SAT>1550 is for the current and past 2 years senior classes. The cohort and distribution of WGPA will be different for the next year senior class since they were admitted under the new system and the composition of courses they are currently taking is different from the current senior class. So no one knows the WGPA necessary to get into UVA. For the current senior class if you have high unweighted GPA but low weighted GPA (4.2ish), which perhaps shows a lack of rigor comparatively, UVA may admit for the Wise campus.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

I aspire for them mental and physical well being. I don't want them having to prove themselves to people like you that the only way to happiness is having and being it all. AT a certain point we all have to choose our priorities, because if we make everything our priority-perfect husband, perfect career and perfect kids we will suffer.

How about you?

So then skip the Ivy degree and become a FT pilates instructor..give your kid the money to invest.

Maybe my Ivy son will be OK with this scenario, but I doubt it. You are conjuring up an image of people that graduated in the 1980s and 1990s that I think it is getting consigned to the dustbin.

You should explain to your son women have it MUCH harder and have to prioritize due to reality not choice, he needs to understand this as hopefully that will help him be more empathic and a better future husband, otherwise he will be one of these husbands women complain on in the rel forum.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

I aspire for them mental and physical well being. I don't want them having to prove themselves to people like you that the only way to happiness is having and being it all. AT a certain point we all have to choose our priorities, because if we make everything our priority-perfect husband, perfect career and perfect kids we will suffer.

How about you?

So then skip the Ivy degree and become a FT pilates instructor..give your kid the money to invest.

Maybe my Ivy son will be OK with this scenario, but I doubt it. You are conjuring up an image of people that graduated in the 1980s and 1990s that I think it is getting consigned to the dustbin.

You should explain to your son women have it MUCH harder and have to prioritize due to reality not choice, he needs to understand this as hopefully that will help him be more empathic and a better future husband, otherwise he will be one of these husbands women complain on in the rel forum.

Sorry...he needs to accept his wife will become a PT pilates instructor? This is a specific example that sounds fairly demeaning and pathetic to Ivy women.

There have to be better examples than this.

BTW, I assume spouses complain about a thousand grievances on the REI forum, so not sure there is anything anyone can do to be spared from the grievances.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing to keep in mind regarding TJ applicants is that all these talks about WGPA>4.4+ and SAT>1550 is for the current and past 2 years senior classes. The cohort and distribution of WGPA will be different for the next year senior class since they were admitted under the new system and the composition of courses they are currently taking is different from the current senior class. So no one knows the WGPA necessary to get into UVA. For the current senior class if you have high unweighted GPA but low weighted GPA (4.2ish), which perhaps shows a lack of rigor comparatively, UVA may admit for the Wise campus.

Not only that, but if you are banking on UMD for CS, don't. It's getting tougher to get into UMD for CS.

They cut the class size down to I think 700 -- 600 direct admit, and 100 transfer, and I think most will be from MoCo CC. It will be almost impossible to transfer into UMD CS within UMD or from other 4 yr universities.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1168132.page