SAT 1600 Score, CS Major

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I have 2 girls. This is not true from my experience in top schools. Actually, being a girl is a disadvantage in Ivy admissions.

Second this. Females who are not URM are far overrepresented so it is a significant disadvantage in almost every major, and our kid’s ivy said for CS specifically odds are “even”: they have 55/45 male to female applicants and 55/45 ratio accepted , so no gender advantage to females in CS anymore. There are just too many who easily clear the bar, and CS is very popular.

Thank you for this. PP who really would love to know how the “not in CS” person knows.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

And if PP’s child had attended some other HS in FCPS, their DC might have been accepted. Graduating from TJ is a double-edged sword at college admissions time.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I have 2 girls. This is not true from my experience in top schools. Actually, being a girl is a disadvantage in Ivy admissions.

Maybe for other majors but not CS.

Girls are not getting advantage for CS at least for a couple of girls this admission cycle with high stat didn't get in.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

^This. Even 4.5 kids this year didn’t have the results they wanted or hoped for.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid got a 1600 SAT Score and is looking for CS Major. Are there any good colleges which his score would give him an edge on. ECs average.

OP, what do you mean by average ECs? I would look at Georgia Tech and UIUC.

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OP still won't answer uw gpa question. My guess is this thread has sent her to a bar.

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Anonymous wrote:Girl or boy? Girls with high stats will likely do better with CS applications than boys.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I have 2 girls. This is not true from my experience in top schools. Actually, being a girl is a disadvantage in Ivy admissions.

Maybe for other majors but not CS.

Girls are not getting advantage for CS at least for a couple of girls this admission cycle with high stat didn't get in.

My son’s first hand experiences suggest girls are at an advantage, statistically speaking. girls with the same credentials get in programs a tier higher than boys in general in STEM field. And I think girls should take advantage of it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I have 2 girls. This is not true from my experience in top schools. Actually, being a girl is a disadvantage in Ivy admissions.

Maybe for other majors but not CS.

Girls are not getting advantage for CS at least for a couple of girls this admission cycle with high stat didn't get in.

My son’s first hand experiences suggest girls are at an advantage, statistically speaking. girls with the same credentials get in programs a tier higher than boys in general in STEM field. And I think girls should take advantage of it.

Well, i have first hand experience with my daughter (TJ '22) with > 4.5 gpa junior year & 1600 SAT not getting into any T10 for CS. She had ECs in CS + research experience. So, those girls that your son observed may have had other "hooks" - i.e. they would've gotten in even if they were boys.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I have 2 girls. This is not true from my experience in top schools. Actually, being a girl is a disadvantage in Ivy admissions.

Maybe for other majors but not CS.

Girls are not getting advantage for CS at least for a couple of girls this admission cycle with high stat didn't get in.

My son’s first hand experiences suggest girls are at an advantage, statistically speaking. girls with the same credentials get in programs a tier higher than boys in general in STEM field. And I think girls should take advantage of it.

Well, i have first hand experience with my daughter (TJ '22) with > 4.5 gpa junior year & 1600 SAT not getting into any T10 for CS. She had ECs in CS + research experience. So, those girls that your son observed may have had other "hooks" - i.e. they would've gotten in even if they were boys.

I do wonder if schools don't care how they achieve near a 50/50 male/female mix in STEM. My kid is at a Top 10 school (top 15 for CS) and says the CS classes are easily 80% male. However, the biomed and other certain engineering majors are like 65%-70% female.

My kid's takeaway is the schools just want to be able to be close to 50/50 for STEM overall (which they then promote to the outside world), even though the sub-categories can be quite skewed.

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What does the school counselor say?
What did google say?

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Anonymous wrote:Girl or boy? Girls with high stats will likely do better with CS applications than boys.

This is not true!

Totally true. Many CS programs preferentially admit women. It’s still hard to get in. Look at CDS numbers for the tech schools.