Teacher called...for a third time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It might not be his fault, School were closed for two years, and they want kids to act like nothing happened. It might have something to do with the school closer, and he might still think he is the same grade it was when they decided to closed down for two years. The kids are acting out because they don't know how to act or if they are going to be shut down again.

Schools were closed for one year, but you’re right that there could be something’s else going on such as ADHD.

two years, almost 3.

2019-2020 March 13th school closed
2020-2021 Online school 4 days a week
2021-2022 Kids are back in school, but have to wear masks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It might not be his fault, School were closed for two years, and they want kids to act like nothing happened. It might have something to do with the school closer, and he might still think he is the same grade it was when they decided to closed down for two years. The kids are acting out because they don't know how to act or if they are going to be shut down again.

NP. Stop. This is such first world problems BS. I can’t even imagine what losers your kids must be, PP.

in Florida and in places where schools were open, kids don't have as many behavior problems as they do in schools that kept closed for two plus years or so. Kids are missing school because they forgot they have to attend, and again this the school closure fault because doing COVID they only attend 4 days a week, and even when they will be on for a few minutes then leave.

Nowhere closes schools for 2 years. Everywhere in the country reopened at some point no later than fall 2021. Most schools began staggering returns in fall 2020 into winter/spring 2021. Lying about the duration of closures is pointless and infantile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It might not be his fault, School were closed for two years, and they want kids to act like nothing happened. It might have something to do with the school closer, and he might still think he is the same grade it was when they decided to closed down for two years. The kids are acting out because they don't know how to act or if they are going to be shut down again.

Schools were closed for one year, but you’re right that there could be something’s else going on such as ADHD.

two years, almost 3.

2019-2020 March 13th school closed
2020-2021 Online school 4 days a week
2021-2022 Kids are back in school, but have to wear masks.

What a goalpost shift! So now you’re counting schools as being closed even when kids were all in 5 days a week. What a moron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS is 16 and a sophomore. His grades are not the best and we've been course correcting since the start of the school year. We have suspected that he is not paying attention in class and not motivated. We've received 3 phone calls throughout the year about DS not paying attention, being disruptive, using earbuds and being on his phone. We took the phone today and there was some action (snap), but not a whole lot. We did find a VPN app.

We are absolutely heartbroken that after multiple conversations, intervention (tutoring twice a week) and consequences that DS is just not getting it. He is not taking school seriously and the disrespectful attitude is appalling to us. Today we received the 3rd call and we're determined to make it crystal clear to DS this time around.
Other than the issues above, DS is generally respectful at home, does not do drugs/drink and is generally enjoyable to be around.

What would you do?

Teachers don't normally call. I have two teen sons and they've had their share of struggles at school but they teachers never called. If you have received 3 calls already that means the teacher is at his/her wits ends with your teen's behavior.

I would start by taking his phone privileges immediately for school and out of school.

You can go to Walmart and buy a cheap phone for emergency calls only.

Since he's 16, maybe he start looking for a job to stay busy after school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how parents these days can twist any situation to place the blame on the teachers. Good luck in college!

Are college professors going to call parents about a college student’s behavior?

Here is a pro tip: teachers DO NOT want to call you. If we are calling it is because your kid is doing something that ultimately negatively impacts their own academics and if it looks like your kid might fail because of it, we are required to contact you. If it gets to the point we are calling, when we do not want to have to do that, it means we have exhausted all the interventions, redirections, strategies available to us as the teacher and it’s now at a level where YOU, the parent, who has more available interventions and strategies to use with your child that we do not, need to be aware and taking action.

Don’t get annoyed that we’re calling you. Understand that it means we have absolutely done what we can on our end and it’s now time for you to pick up the baton. Or, failing that, at least you have been made aware so that when your kid ultimately does get that F, you can’t claim “nobody told me” and blame us for not telling you so you could help.

I posted above. My child does not have a phone.
I have never had a teacher call me with suggested interventions that only I can implement from home that will improve my child’s school performance during the day.
I also don’t see anything suggested in this thread other than taking away his phone.

If teachers really were calling me to tell me that it would be helpful if I did xyz thing at home, and they told my child that it was expected that he did xyz thing at home, that would be great.
If they called and were like, I just need to inform you that your child is failing this class, that would also be fine.

That’s never what happens though. It’s always the reverse. They call me and ask me what I think they should do during the school day. I don’t know. This is literally the only child I have ever had to help get through the 10th grade. I have no experience and no education in this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is 16 and a sophomore. His grades are not the best and we've been course correcting since the start of the school year. We have suspected that he is not paying attention in class and not motivated. We've received 3 phone calls throughout the year about DS not paying attention, being disruptive, using earbuds and being on his phone. We took the phone today and there was some action (snap), but not a whole lot. We did find a VPN app.

We are absolutely heartbroken that after multiple conversations, intervention (tutoring twice a week) and consequences that DS is just not getting it. He is not taking school seriously and the disrespectful attitude is appalling to us. Today we received the 3rd call and we're determined to make it crystal clear to DS this time around.
Other than the issues above, DS is generally respectful at home, does not do drugs/drink and is generally enjoyable to be around.

What would you do?

Teachers don't normally call. I have two teen sons and they've had their share of struggles at school but they teachers never called. If you have received 3 calls already that means the teacher is at his/her wits ends with your teen's behavior.

I would start by taking his phone privileges immediately for school and out of school.

You can go to Walmart and buy a cheap phone for emergency calls only.

Since he's 16, maybe he start looking for a job to stay busy after school.

Yep, we only care if the behavior doesn't change and we have to write them up, (Its not going to change anything All they will do is giving them detention, and they really don't care cause they can work on "laptops doing school work.)"
but least we have record of that behavior or student is not coming to class, and is failing or is sleeping EVERY SINGLE CLASS PERIOD. I understand every once in a while, a student might need a little nap, but that will not happen in my classroom everyday. Maybe the day after Spring Break, or Monday or they are just having a bad day. Even before that happens, we would warn them, if you kept this up we would call home.

[Anonymous]

My neighbor son is also 16, and he transferred to a program called "Penn Forster" He does he schooling one his own, and is able to work in the construction filed doing the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It might not be his fault, School were closed for two years, and they want kids to act like nothing happened. It might have something to do with the school closer, and he might still think he is the same grade it was when they decided to closed down for two years. The kids are acting out because they don't know how to act or if they are going to be shut down again.

NP. Stop. This is such first world problems BS. I can’t even imagine what losers your kids must be, PP.

in Florida and in places where schools were open, kids don't have as many behavior problems as they do in schools that kept closed for two plus years or so. Kids are missing school because they forgot they have to attend, and again this the school closure fault because doing COVID they only attend 4 days a week, and even when they will be on for a few minutes then leave.

Please cite? Everything I've read says the problems are universal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It might not be his fault, School were closed for two years, and they want kids to act like nothing happened. It might have something to do with the school closer, and he might still think he is the same grade it was when they decided to closed down for two years. The kids are acting out because they don't know how to act or if they are going to be shut down again.

NP. Stop. This is such first world problems BS. I can’t even imagine what losers your kids must be, PP.

in Florida and in places where schools were open, kids don't have as many behavior problems as they do in schools that kept closed for two plus years or so. Kids are missing school because they forgot they have to attend, and again this the school closure fault because doing COVID they only attend 4 days a week, and even when they will be on for a few minutes then leave.

Please cite? Everything I've read says the problems are universal.

I remember Governor DeSantis, talk about it when he was running for President, it one of the reason he was so popular when he was running.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP, sorry, maybe dumb question: how do you check to see if they are using the phone during the day at school?

oh man, PP, you need to google this. Apple has very good parental controls. block the kid from using their phone during school AT ALL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how parents these days can twist any situation to place the blame on the teachers. Good luck in college!

Are college professors going to call parents about a college student’s behavior?

Here is a pro tip: teachers DO NOT want to call you. If we are calling it is because your kid is doing something that ultimately negatively impacts their own academics and if it looks like your kid might fail because of it, we are required to contact you. If it gets to the point we are calling, when we do not want to have to do that, it means we have exhausted all the interventions, redirections, strategies available to us as the teacher and it’s now at a level where YOU, the parent, who has more available interventions and strategies to use with your child that we do not, need to be aware and taking action.

Don’t get annoyed that we’re calling you. Understand that it means we have absolutely done what we can on our end and it’s now time for you to pick up the baton. Or, failing that, at least you have been made aware so that when your kid ultimately does get that F, you can’t claim “nobody told me” and blame us for not telling you so you could help.

I posted above. My child does not have a phone.
I have never had a teacher call me with suggested interventions that only I can implement from home that will improve my child’s school performance during the day.
I also don’t see anything suggested in this thread other than taking away his phone.

If teachers really were calling me to tell me that it would be helpful if I did xyz thing at home, and they told my child that it was expected that he did xyz thing at home, that would be great.
If they called and were like, I just need to inform you that your child is failing this class, that would also be fine.

That’s never what happens though. It’s always the reverse. They call me and ask me what I think they should do during the school day. I don’t know. This is literally the only child I have ever had to help get through the 10th grade. I have no experience and no education in this.

If your kid doesn’t have a phone and teachers aren’t calling about it then I am not talking about you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how parents these days can twist any situation to place the blame on the teachers. Good luck in college!

Are college professors going to call parents about a college student’s behavior?

Here is a pro tip: teachers DO NOT want to call you. If we are calling it is because your kid is doing something that ultimately negatively impacts their own academics and if it looks like your kid might fail because of it, we are required to contact you. If it gets to the point we are calling, when we do not want to have to do that, it means we have exhausted all the interventions, redirections, strategies available to us as the teacher and it’s now at a level where YOU, the parent, who has more available interventions and strategies to use with your child that we do not, need to be aware and taking action.

Don’t get annoyed that we’re calling you. Understand that it means we have absolutely done what we can on our end and it’s now time for you to pick up the baton. Or, failing that, at least you have been made aware so that when your kid ultimately does get that F, you can’t claim “nobody told me” and blame us for not telling you so you could help.

I posted above. My child does not have a phone.
I have never had a teacher call me with suggested interventions that only I can implement from home that will improve my child’s school performance during the day.
I also don’t see anything suggested in this thread other than taking away his phone.

If teachers really were calling me to tell me that it would be helpful if I did xyz thing at home, and they told my child that it was expected that he did xyz thing at home, that would be great.
If they called and were like, I just need to inform you that your child is failing this class, that would also be fine.

That’s never what happens though. It’s always the reverse. They call me and ask me what I think they should do during the school day. I don’t know. This is literally the only child I have ever had to help get through the 10th grade. I have no experience and no education in this.

If your kid doesn’t have a phone and teachers aren’t calling about it then I am not talking about you.

They are calling with exactly the same issues as the Op (not paying attention in class, failing grades, etc), just minus the phone.
What are these interventions they are expecting parents to make? Why don’t they just explicitly state them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how parents these days can twist any situation to place the blame on the teachers. Good luck in college!

Are college professors going to call parents about a college student’s behavior?

Here is a pro tip: teachers DO NOT want to call you. If we are calling it is because your kid is doing something that ultimately negatively impacts their own academics and if it looks like your kid might fail because of it, we are required to contact you. If it gets to the point we are calling, when we do not want to have to do that, it means we have exhausted all the interventions, redirections, strategies available to us as the teacher and it’s now at a level where YOU, the parent, who has more available interventions and strategies to use with your child that we do not, need to be aware and taking action.

Don’t get annoyed that we’re calling you. Understand that it means we have absolutely done what we can on our end and it’s now time for you to pick up the baton. Or, failing that, at least you have been made aware so that when your kid ultimately does get that F, you can’t claim “nobody told me” and blame us for not telling you so you could help.

This is so real.

IP, when you take the phone, make sure you restrict his access to cash. Otherwise, he’ll just buy a burner phone. No jobs until grades are up, for example.

[Anonymous]

World needs ditch diggers too.

If kids don't want to learn, let them sit on their phones in the back of the room. Kids who are smart and motivated can pay attention and get the benefit of instruction

[Anonymous]

Get him an evaluation for ADHD, then meds if necessary.