Justice for Officer Sutton

[Anonymous]

This thread should be linked any time someone complains about cops on their phones or why the force is shrinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread should be linked any time someone complains about cops on their phones or why the force is shrinking.

Why do you have such low expectations for police officers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you want police to be able to chase people in their cars for not wearing a helmet?

"I'M BEATING YOU FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY! STOP RESISTING!!"

They were chasing him because he was a known member of a dangerous gang headed to go shoot someone.

That's interesting, because initially, police said they attempted the stop because he wasn't wearing a helmet. Are you saying that wasn't the truth?

I'm confused. Do you want police officers out on the street who know who the small percent commiting all the crimes in our city are, or do you not? You can stop people for not wearing a helmet AND they can be a known member of a dangerous gang. Those two things can be concurrent. Should we just give up on policing?

I'm confused. Do you want police officers out on the street who tell the truth, or do you not?

lying isn’t murder

[Anonymous]

I want police who put away criminals and aren’t afraid of being imprisoned for doing it

[Anonymous]

I want 911 to pick and the police to show up when I call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want police to be able to chase people in their cars for not wearing a helmet?

"I'M BEATING YOU FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY! STOP RESISTING!!"

They were chasing him because he was a known member of a dangerous gang headed to go shoot someone.

Source? Or just making assumptions like usual

rtfa

so your source is a blog post by some guy? All along the official story was he was being stopped because he wasn't wearing a helmet but now the story is that they "knew" he was head to kill someone?

Given the sweeping indictments of the Kennedy St Crew just after this happened, and that Hylton had a weapon and $1000s in cash on him and was high, I’m inclined to believe that Hylton was not a nice young man out for a ride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want police to be able to chase people in their cars for not wearing a helmet?

"I'M BEATING YOU FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY! STOP RESISTING!!"

They were chasing him because he was a known member of a dangerous gang headed to go shoot someone.

Source? Or just making assumptions like usual

rtfa

so your source is a blog post by some guy? All along the official story was he was being stopped because he wasn't wearing a helmet but now the story is that they "knew" he was head to kill someone?

Given the sweeping indictments of the Kennedy St Crew just after this happened, and that Hylton had a weapon and $1000s in cash on him and was high, I’m inclined to believe that Hylton was not a nice young man out for a ride.

So what? That doesn't make it ok for the police to chase him in violation of policy, obstruct justice, and engage in conspiracy. If he weren't dead now, he could be prosecuted [for something], but he is dead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:dcist has been covering this story for years, with an even hand and views from all stakeholders. This story is microcosm of the social problems and breakdown of trust in DC and around the country. It's tragedy all around.

Sutton is still at home pending legal proceedings.
The anti-chase policies has been softened since this event.

Karon Hylton shouldn't have died, and Officer Sutton shouldn't be in jail. And these rental mopeds shouldn't be on the street.


Please read their full coverage.

One example:

https://dcist.com/story/20/11/02/karon-hylton-browns-loved-ones-remember-his-exuberant-spirit-and-dreams-for-fatherhood/

And a follow up:
https://dcist.com/story/22/12/21/terence-sutton-guilty-verdict-second-degree-murder/

I’m sorry he got hit by a car. Also not sorry that he didn’t kill any innocent bystanders during the drive-by shooting he was on his way to commit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want police to be able to chase people in their cars for not wearing a helmet?

"I'M BEATING YOU FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY! STOP RESISTING!!"

They were chasing him because he was a known member of a dangerous gang headed to go shoot someone.

That's interesting, because initially, police said they attempted the stop because he wasn't wearing a helmet. Are you saying that wasn't the truth?

I'm confused. Do you want police officers out on the street who know who the small percent commiting all the crimes in our city are, or do you not? You can stop people for not wearing a helmet AND they can be a known member of a dangerous gang. Those two things can be concurrent. Should we just give up on policing?

I'm confused. Do you want police officers out on the street who tell the truth, or do you not?

lying isn’t murder

Take it up with the jury that convicted him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-unjust-pursuit-of-police-officer-sutton" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-unjust-pursuit-of-police-officer-sutton

What can be done to save this man? Has anyone organized? Is there somewhere that I can donate to?

Thanks in advance.

This is Sutton's lawyer's argument, publishing in a right wing think tank's propaganda blog masquerading as a news site. Not a neutral news article. That doesn't mean he's wrong, but it does mean it's not fully honest.

Did the Citypaper or WaPo report on Hylton’s criminal record and the reasons why he was being pursued?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want police to be able to chase people in their cars for not wearing a helmet?

"I'M BEATING YOU FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY! STOP RESISTING!!"

They were chasing him because he was a known member of a dangerous gang headed to go shoot someone.

Source? Or just making assumptions like usual

rtfa

so your source is a blog post by some guy? All along the official story was he was being stopped because he wasn't wearing a helmet but now the story is that they "knew" he was head to kill someone?

Given the sweeping indictments of the Kennedy St Crew just after this happened, and that Hylton had a weapon and $1000s in cash on him and was high, I’m inclined to believe that Hylton was not a nice young man out for a ride.

So what? That doesn't make it ok for the police to chase him in violation of policy, obstruct justice, and engage in conspiracy. If he weren't dead now, he could be prosecuted [for something], but he is dead.

It was a terrible policy that has since been rolled back by Bowser. Obviously the obstruction is wrong. But the reason we have a spiked crime rate in DC is in part because of nonsensical policies that limit the police’s ability to target actual criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:dcist has been covering this story for years, with an even hand and views from all stakeholders. This story is microcosm of the social problems and breakdown of trust in DC and around the country. It's tragedy all around.

Sutton is still at home pending legal proceedings.
The anti-chase policies has been softened since this event.

Karon Hylton shouldn't have died, and Officer Sutton shouldn't be in jail. And these rental mopeds shouldn't be on the street.


Please read their full coverage.

One example:

https://dcist.com/story/20/11/02/karon-hylton-browns-loved-ones-remember-his-exuberant-spirit-and-dreams-for-fatherhood/

And a follow up:
https://dcist.com/story/22/12/21/terence-sutton-guilty-verdict-second-degree-murder/

I’m sorry he got hit by a car. Also not sorry that he didn’t kill any innocent bystanders during the drive-by shooting he was on his way to commit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want police to be able to chase people in their cars for not wearing a helmet?

"I'M BEATING YOU FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY! STOP RESISTING!!"

They were chasing him because he was a known member of a dangerous gang headed to go shoot someone.

Source? Or just making assumptions like usual

rtfa

so your source is a blog post by some guy? All along the official story was he was being stopped because he wasn't wearing a helmet but now the story is that they "knew" he was head to kill someone?

Given the sweeping indictments of the Kennedy St Crew just after this happened, and that Hylton had a weapon and $1000s in cash on him and was high, I’m inclined to believe that Hylton was not a nice young man out for a ride.

So what? That doesn't make it ok for the police to chase him in violation of policy, obstruct justice, and engage in conspiracy. If he weren't dead now, he could be prosecuted [for something], but he is dead.

It was a terrible policy that has since been rolled back by Bowser. Obviously the obstruction is wrong. But the reason we have a spiked crime rate in DC is in part because of nonsensical policies that limit the police’s ability to target actual criminals.

"Obviously the obstruction is wrong. But..."? You're excusing police misbehavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:dcist has been covering this story for years, with an even hand and views from all stakeholders. This story is microcosm of the social problems and breakdown of trust in DC and around the country. It's tragedy all around.

Sutton is still at home pending legal proceedings.
The anti-chase policies has been softened since this event.

Karon Hylton shouldn't have died, and Officer Sutton shouldn't be in jail. And these rental mopeds shouldn't be on the street.


Please read their full coverage.

One example:

https://dcist.com/story/20/11/02/karon-hylton-browns-loved-ones-remember-his-exuberant-spirit-and-dreams-for-fatherhood/

And a follow up:
https://dcist.com/story/22/12/21/terence-sutton-guilty-verdict-second-degree-murder/

I’m sorry he got hit by a car. Also not sorry that he didn’t kill any innocent bystanders during the drive-by shooting he was on his way to commit.

:shock:

Also not sorry that he didn’t kill any kids playing on the sidewalk (he was riding the moped at 30mph on the sidewalk)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want police to be able to chase people in their cars for not wearing a helmet?

"I'M BEATING YOU FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY! STOP RESISTING!!"

They were chasing him because he was a known member of a dangerous gang headed to go shoot someone.

Source? Or just making assumptions like usual

rtfa

so your source is a blog post by some guy? All along the official story was he was being stopped because he wasn't wearing a helmet but now the story is that they "knew" he was head to kill someone?

Given the sweeping indictments of the Kennedy St Crew just after this happened, and that Hylton had a weapon and $1000s in cash on him and was high, I’m inclined to believe that Hylton was not a nice young man out for a ride.

So what? That doesn't make it ok for the police to chase him in violation of policy, obstruct justice, and engage in conspiracy. If he weren't dead now, he could be prosecuted [for something], but he is dead.

It was a terrible policy that has since been rolled back by Bowser. Obviously the obstruction is wrong. But the reason we have a spiked crime rate in DC is in part because of nonsensical policies that limit the police’s ability to target actual criminals.

"Obviously the obstruction is wrong. But..."? You're excusing police misbehavior.

Nope, he should be convicted for that. But not murder. And the police should be able to pursue criminals.