Teens need boots

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

Do your kids go to some very small private school? Most public high schools around here literally have thousands of students. There's no room in the school to give each student two lockers.

No, its a Middle school with about 800 students.

And as a different PP mentioned, they are actually required to use their lockers (not their PE ones, though). No backpacks in the classroom is the policy. So kids don't go to the locker between every class, but they probably go 3-4 times a day.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

I think it's the people that feel that kids should wear boots/hats/coats/gloves that need to understand that not all schools are like the ones their kids go to where they have facilities and time to store their shit.

I think it’s crazy that so many parents just ACCEPT schools that are so poorly run that their kids can’t even wear GD coats in the winter.

DD’s school has lockers. There is just no time to go to the lockers, so she carries a 20 lbs. backpack all day long. This is the reason lots of schools either don’t have lockers, or don’t assign them unless requested. The kids simply do not use them.

As for coats, if she had to stop and retrieve her coat from her locker, she’ll miss her bus. As it is, she has missed it a couple of times because she has to run to the opposite end of the school to retrieve her instrument first.

And everything you mentioned is more evidence that the school is poorly run. I assume the school schedule isn’t on stone tablets personally delivered to the administrators by Moses.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

Do your kids go to some very small private school? Most public high schools around here literally have thousands of students. There's no room in the school to give each student two lockers.

No, its a Middle school with about 800 students.

And as a different PP mentioned, they are actually required to use their lockers (not their PE ones, though). No backpacks in the classroom is the policy. So kids don't go to the locker between every class, but they probably go 3-4 times a day.

Ok, but it's not like that at all middle schools or high schools.
I'd also be surprised if there is really space and time at your kid's school for every student to stand in front of their lockers to change shoes at the end of the day and still make it out on time to catch the school bus.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

I think it's the people that feel that kids should wear boots/hats/coats/gloves that need to understand that not all schools are like the ones their kids go to where they have facilities and time to store their shit.

I think it’s crazy that so many parents just ACCEPT schools that are so poorly run that their kids can’t even wear GD coats in the winter.

DD’s school has lockers. There is just no time to go to the lockers, so she carries a 20 lbs. backpack all day long. This is the reason lots of schools either don’t have lockers, or don’t assign them unless requested. The kids simply do not use them.

As for coats, if she had to stop and retrieve her coat from her locker, she’ll miss her bus. As it is, she has missed it a couple of times because she has to run to the opposite end of the school to retrieve her instrument first.

And everything you mentioned is more evidence that the school is poorly run. I assume the school schedule isn’t on stone tablets personally delivered to the administrators by Moses.

I'm not the pp you quoted, but how would you "run" the school differently?

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Anonymous wrote:How many adults are wearing boots and changing at work? None of you. I’m not. And no, the entire way isn’t on perfectly cleared sidewalks for me either. The kids will be okay and all of this will be melted in another day or two.

I always wear boots outdoors when it is raining, snowing, icy, and/or slushy. I keep a pair of shoes at my office. It takes less than one minute to change shoes. This is not only for my own personal safety, comfort, and hygiene. It benefits everyone who shares the office to not have water, slush, and mud tracked all over the floors.

I cannot figure out if those of you pushing back so hard against the very idea of appropriate footwear are incompetent or just lazy.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

I think it's the people that feel that kids should wear boots/hats/coats/gloves that need to understand that not all schools are like the ones their kids go to where they have facilities and time to store their shit.

I think it’s crazy that so many parents just ACCEPT schools that are so poorly run that their kids can’t even wear GD coats in the winter.

DD’s school has lockers. There is just no time to go to the lockers, so she carries a 20 lbs. backpack all day long. This is the reason lots of schools either don’t have lockers, or don’t assign them unless requested. The kids simply do not use them.

As for coats, if she had to stop and retrieve her coat from her locker, she’ll miss her bus. As it is, she has missed it a couple of times because she has to run to the opposite end of the school to retrieve her instrument first.

And everything you mentioned is more evidence that the school is poorly run. I assume the school schedule isn’t on stone tablets personally delivered to the administrators by Moses.

I'm not the pp you quoted, but how would you "run" the school differently?

Step 1: Shorten each class by a few minutes to give kids time to do what they need to do between or after classes (e.g. make it to their bus on time, put their coat in their locker {and every kid should absolutely have a locker}, change out of their disgusting wet, muddy shoes, etc.)

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

Do your kids go to some very small private school? Most public high schools around here literally have thousands of students. There's no room in the school to give each student two lockers.

No, its a Middle school with about 800 students.

And as a different PP mentioned, they are actually required to use their lockers (not their PE ones, though). No backpacks in the classroom is the policy. So kids don't go to the locker between every class, but they probably go 3-4 times a day.

Ok, but it's not like that at all middle schools or high schools.
I'd also be surprised if there is really space and time at your kid's school for every student to stand in front of their lockers to change shoes at the end of the day and still make it out on time to catch the school bus.

Maybe class could end a bit earlier or the bus could leave a bit later? This is not some insurmountable problem, FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

I think it's the people that feel that kids should wear boots/hats/coats/gloves that need to understand that not all schools are like the ones their kids go to where they have facilities and time to store their shit.

I think it’s crazy that so many parents just ACCEPT schools that are so poorly run that their kids can’t even wear GD coats in the winter.

DD’s school has lockers. There is just no time to go to the lockers, so she carries a 20 lbs. backpack all day long. This is the reason lots of schools either don’t have lockers, or don’t assign them unless requested. The kids simply do not use them.

As for coats, if she had to stop and retrieve her coat from her locker, she’ll miss her bus. As it is, she has missed it a couple of times because she has to run to the opposite end of the school to retrieve her instrument first.

And everything you mentioned is more evidence that the school is poorly run. I assume the school schedule isn’t on stone tablets personally delivered to the administrators by Moses.

I'm not the pp you quoted, but how would you "run" the school differently?

Step 1: Shorten each class by a few minutes to give kids time to do what they need to do between or after classes (e.g. make it to their bus on time, put their coat in their locker {and every kid should absolutely have a locker}, change out of their disgusting wet, muddy shoes, etc.)

A principal can't just unilaterally shorten instruction time. Usually those numbers are mandated by the state.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

Do your kids go to some very small private school? Most public high schools around here literally have thousands of students. There's no room in the school to give each student two lockers.

No, its a Middle school with about 800 students.

And as a different PP mentioned, they are actually required to use their lockers (not their PE ones, though). No backpacks in the classroom is the policy. So kids don't go to the locker between every class, but they probably go 3-4 times a day.

Ok, but it's not like that at all middle schools or high schools.
I'd also be surprised if there is really space and time at your kid's school for every student to stand in front of their lockers to change shoes at the end of the day and still make it out on time to catch the school bus.

This was my exact point. I was responding to the poster that said: "What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas"

And my response was exactly what you said: not all high schools or middles are the same. many have ample locker space and time between classes to get to the lockerrooms. And its not just small privates. our MS has about 800 and our HS has over 2,000 kids.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

Do your kids go to some very small private school? Most public high schools around here literally have thousands of students. There's no room in the school to give each student two lockers.

No, its a Middle school with about 800 students.

And as a different PP mentioned, they are actually required to use their lockers (not their PE ones, though). No backpacks in the classroom is the policy. So kids don't go to the locker between every class, but they probably go 3-4 times a day.

Ok, but it's not like that at all middle schools or high schools.
I'd also be surprised if there is really space and time at your kid's school for every student to stand in front of their lockers to change shoes at the end of the day and still make it out on time to catch the school bus.

Maybe class could end a bit earlier or the bus could leave a bit later? This is not some insurmountable problem, FFS.

Are you the same pp I just responded to?
Again, a principal can't just shorten class time. This is a state level mandate and not indicative of a "poorly run school."

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

Do your kids go to some very small private school? Most public high schools around here literally have thousands of students. There's no room in the school to give each student two lockers.

No, its a Middle school with about 800 students.

And as a different PP mentioned, they are actually required to use their lockers (not their PE ones, though). No backpacks in the classroom is the policy. So kids don't go to the locker between every class, but they probably go 3-4 times a day.

Ok, but it's not like that at all middle schools or high schools.
I'd also be surprised if there is really space and time at your kid's school for every student to stand in front of their lockers to change shoes at the end of the day and still make it out on time to catch the school bus.

This was my exact point. I was responding to the poster that said: "What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas"

And my response was exactly what you said: not all high schools or middles are the same. many have ample locker space and time between classes to get to the lockerrooms. And its not just small privates. our MS has about 800 and our HS has over 2,000 kids.

And each of those 2000+ high school kids has 2 lockers?

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

Do your kids go to some very small private school? Most public high schools around here literally have thousands of students. There's no room in the school to give each student two lockers.

No, its a Middle school with about 800 students.

And as a different PP mentioned, they are actually required to use their lockers (not their PE ones, though). No backpacks in the classroom is the policy. So kids don't go to the locker between every class, but they probably go 3-4 times a day.

Ok, but it's not like that at all middle schools or high schools.
I'd also be surprised if there is really space and time at your kid's school for every student to stand in front of their lockers to change shoes at the end of the day and still make it out on time to catch the school bus.

Maybe class could end a bit earlier or the bus could leave a bit later? This is not some insurmountable problem, FFS.

And no, the bus can't just leave a bit later. It needs to go pick up the next batch of kids.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of garbage excuse for a school doesn’t have a place for kids to change out of boots?!

Troll fail.

Excuse me? Do you mean the person claiming it’s literally impossible to change into shoes at their school is a troll?

“Garbage excuse for a school” because kids can’t change boots? Where do expect them to do it, in the crowded hallway or locker area while standing up? Go away crazy lady.

Yes in the locker area while standing up. Presumably teens are in good enough shape that bending down isn’t life threatening

What locker area? Have you even been in a MS or HS this decade? There are no lockers, let alone locker areas.

I dunno. You may want to consider that some school districts may be different than yours.

My kids have 2 lockers. One in the hallway, and one in the gym lockeroom

I think it's the people that feel that kids should wear boots/hats/coats/gloves that need to understand that not all schools are like the ones their kids go to where they have facilities and time to store their shit.

I think it’s crazy that so many parents just ACCEPT schools that are so poorly run that their kids can’t even wear GD coats in the winter.

DD’s school has lockers. There is just no time to go to the lockers, so she carries a 20 lbs. backpack all day long. This is the reason lots of schools either don’t have lockers, or don’t assign them unless requested. The kids simply do not use them.

As for coats, if she had to stop and retrieve her coat from her locker, she’ll miss her bus. As it is, she has missed it a couple of times because she has to run to the opposite end of the school to retrieve her instrument first.

And everything you mentioned is more evidence that the school is poorly run. I assume the school schedule isn’t on stone tablets personally delivered to the administrators by Moses.

I'm not the pp you quoted, but how would you "run" the school differently?

Step 1: Shorten each class by a few minutes to give kids time to do what they need to do between or after classes (e.g. make it to their bus on time, put their coat in their locker {and every kid should absolutely have a locker}, change out of their disgusting wet, muddy shoes, etc.)

Principals choose shorter passing periods to reduce problems (fighting). I think it is another way that kids these days have reduced socialization, but I know why they do it. Instead of just being clueless.

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Why don't kids have lockers?

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't kids have lockers?

The passing periods are too short for students to go to lockers, so they don't use them. Also, there are no textbooks, only laptops so schools figure kids don't need lockers anyway.

That's the reasoning (I disagree with all of it)