City of D.C. going to 1 day a week telework

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

I took a Fed job based on the fact it's 1 day a month telework. Prior to that, I was a SAHM. We don't *need* my meager salary but it's nice to have a little extra, takes some pressure off DH as the sole provider, plus it's something to do while the kids are in school. My DH has weird work hours so the telework factor is what makes it all possible for me in the first place; to work around other needs at home. I'm not sure what sort of schedule my office had pre-Covid, but I will absolutely quit if I have to add 3 hours a day commuting to/from downtown.

So you took a job so you could work from home one day a month?? That makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My spouse works for Maryland state government and they were ordered back into the office 3 days a week like 2 years ago. I don't really get what the big deal is here. I guess 3 days would be better than 4, but I also think it's insane that there are people who haven't set foot in an office since March 2020. That was 4 years ago! It's crazy this took so long. If I was a DC employee who was required to work in person (teacher, police officer, public works employee, DMV, etc.) I'd have such immense scorn for the lazy middle managers parked on their butts in suburban home sending emails all day and never bothering to come into the office.

But you are ok with middle managers parked on their butts in urban offices sending emails all day.

Yes because if they are in the office, there is a greater likelihood they will be held accountable for their duty to the city and its citizens. I actually think it's important that DC citizens be able to interact with the people you run the city and services that residents pay for, and while some amount of WFH is fine with me, I want city employees physically in office more than half the time. Especially since my taxes pay for those offices, their computers, the servers they rely not do their job, etc.

I don't care what private sector companies choose to do with regards to WFH. My taxes don't pay their rent or their salaries. Not the case with DC government.

Your taxes could stop paying for those buildings. Most govt employees have zero contact with the public so what does it matter where they are? Studies have shown that productivity has increased since implementing more telework so your point there is off as well. If the company you pay services to hires inadequate adults that need constant supervising, then you have bigger problems than telework.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My spouse works for Maryland state government and they were ordered back into the office 3 days a week like 2 years ago. I don't really get what the big deal is here. I guess 3 days would be better than 4, but I also think it's insane that there are people who haven't set foot in an office since March 2020. That was 4 years ago! It's crazy this took so long. If I was a DC employee who was required to work in person (teacher, police officer, public works employee, DMV, etc.) I'd have such immense scorn for the lazy middle managers parked on their butts in suburban home sending emails all day and never bothering to come into the office.

But you are ok with middle managers parked on their butts in urban offices sending emails all day.

Yes because if they are in the office, there is a greater likelihood they will be held accountable for their duty to the city and its citizens. I actually think it's important that DC citizens be able to interact with the people you run the city and services that residents pay for, and while some amount of WFH is fine with me, I want city employees physically in office more than half the time. Especially since my taxes pay for those offices, their computers, the servers they rely not do their job, etc.

I don't care what private sector companies choose to do with regards to WFH. My taxes don't pay their rent or their salaries. Not the case with DC government.

Your taxes could stop paying for those buildings. Most govt employees have zero contact with the public so what does it matter where they are? Studies have shown that productivity has increased since implementing more telework so your point there is off as well. If the company you pay services to hires inadequate adults that need constant supervising, then you have bigger problems than telework.

Nope, as a DC resident, I want people in the offices and spending money in the city and keeping the economy humming. I'm sure some people want to work from home and that's fine, but it's not all that matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So DC government is forcing middle class government workers to subsidize billionaire commercial building owners. Nice.

I guess it's too hard to come up with a more innovative way to repurpose those buildings.

How are the workers subsidizing commercial building owners given DC owns many of its buildings and otherwise are on long term leases long since executed?

Exactly. I've asked my employees to come into the office 3 days per week. It's important that people see and work with each other.

DC employees already have to come in 3 days a week. The new policy mandates they come to work 4 days a week. As PPs have stated, non Union employees haven’t even received a COLA the past year even though the Feds have received 5%.

So DC employees had a pay cut the past few years because COLA was only 3.5% total in the past three FYs and they have to show up 4 days a week now and pay all the commuting costs that come with that. I wonder how valued these employees feel?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Hahaha! She’s using her own employees as pawns in this ridiculous ploy to convince the Feds to do something they’re never going to do. Biden doesn’t care at all what the Mayor who supported Bloomberg in the primaries wants his workforce to do. The deluded sense of entitlement and importance is hilarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My spouse works for Maryland state government and they were ordered back into the office 3 days a week like 2 years ago. I don't really get what the big deal is here. I guess 3 days would be better than 4, but I also think it's insane that there are people who haven't set foot in an office since March 2020. That was 4 years ago! It's crazy this took so long. If I was a DC employee who was required to work in person (teacher, police officer, public works employee, DMV, etc.) I'd have such immense scorn for the lazy middle managers parked on their butts in suburban home sending emails all day and never bothering to come into the office.

DC employees have had to be in office 3 days a week since 2021. What are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Now that they will be back 20% more a week - maybe there will be demand for food tucks and all the dumped food trucks in SW will move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

I took a Fed job based on the fact it's 1 day a month telework. Prior to that, I was a SAHM. We don't *need* my meager salary but it's nice to have a little extra, takes some pressure off DH as the sole provider, plus it's something to do while the kids are in school. My DH has weird work hours so the telework factor is what makes it all possible for me in the first place; to work around other needs at home. I'm not sure what sort of schedule my office had pre-Covid, but I will absolutely quit if I have to add 3 hours a day commuting to/from downtown.

So you took a job so you could work from home one day a month?? That makes no sense.

Pardon my typo. Had you read the rest of my response, you might have figured out I meant to type telework with only 1 day a month in office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My spouse works for Maryland state government and they were ordered back into the office 3 days a week like 2 years ago. I don't really get what the big deal is here. I guess 3 days would be better than 4, but I also think it's insane that there are people who haven't set foot in an office since March 2020. That was 4 years ago! It's crazy this took so long. If I was a DC employee who was required to work in person (teacher, police officer, public works employee, DMV, etc.) I'd have such immense scorn for the lazy middle managers parked on their butts in suburban home sending emails all day and never bothering to come into the office.

But you are ok with middle managers parked on their butts in urban offices sending emails all day.

you are wrong. DC had emplpyees in the office three days a week since 2021. This new four day a week plan is strictly to support econ development because downtown is tanking and only gettng worse and the feds don't seem to be coming back anytime soon. the mayor is out of ideas on how to creatively rethink downtown and she can't control the feds so this is her only plan of action. Never mind that most DC employees don't even work downtown. Other than folks at Wilson building, DC employees are scattered through out the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

I took a Fed job based on the fact it's 1 day a month telework. Prior to that, I was a SAHM. We don't *need* my meager salary but it's nice to have a little extra, takes some pressure off DH as the sole provider, plus it's something to do while the kids are in school. My DH has weird work hours so the telework factor is what makes it all possible for me in the first place; to work around other needs at home. I'm not sure what sort of schedule my office had pre-Covid, but I will absolutely quit if I have to add 3 hours a day commuting to/from downtown.

So you took a job so you could work from home one day a month?? That makes no sense.

Pardon my typo. Had you read the rest of my response, you might have figured out I meant to type telework with only 1 day a month in office.

No, once I read the first line, I thought you were not very smart and stopped reading. But thanks for clarifying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So DC government is forcing middle class government workers to subsidize billionaire commercial building owners. Nice.

I guess it's too hard to come up with a more innovative way to repurpose those buildings.

Dumb post not at all based in reality, just talking points pulled out of your ass you think might convince other idiots.

You’re sooooo threatened. It’s fun to watch. Another useless “manager” with nothing to do if he/she can’t stand over the peons in the office, while contributing nothing of value.

DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

No they don’t need to get back to the office. The work is getting done. There’s absolutely no reason.
Don’t look to workers to subsidize the city. Those days are long gone.

Lol, who is subsidizing who here. Municipal taxes pay DC government worker salaries. Expecting those workers to come to offices in the city they serve is not asking them to "subsidize the city." It's expecting them to do their jobs in a way that meets the needs of the people they serve and who pay their salaries.

If you don't like it, get a job with a private company that guarantees WFH. I don't care. But if you work for the city, you work for taxpayers, and taxpayers want people back in their offices.

You seem to be confused about the nature of taxes. They aren’t user fees. No one cares what you “want.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So DC government is forcing middle class government workers to subsidize billionaire commercial building owners. Nice.

I guess it's too hard to come up with a more innovative way to repurpose those buildings.

How are the workers subsidizing commercial building owners given DC owns many of its buildings and otherwise are on long term leases long since executed?

Exactly. I've asked my employees to come into the office 3 days per week. It's important that people see and work with each other.

DC employees already have to come in 3 days a week. The new policy mandates they come to work 4 days a week. As PPs have stated, non Union employees haven’t even received a COLA the past year even though the Feds have received 5%.

So DC employees had a pay cut the past few years because COLA was only 3.5% total in the past three FYs and they have to show up 4 days a week now and pay all the commuting costs that come with that. I wonder how valued these employees feel?

This. With inflation and the failure to give a COLA, DC employees have effectively gotten a pay cut. Now they have to spend their money to keep the city humming while everyone else is working from home? Great for morale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

I took a Fed job based on the fact it's 1 day a month telework. Prior to that, I was a SAHM. We don't *need* my meager salary but it's nice to have a little extra, takes some pressure off DH as the sole provider, plus it's something to do while the kids are in school. My DH has weird work hours so the telework factor is what makes it all possible for me in the first place; to work around other needs at home. I'm not sure what sort of schedule my office had pre-Covid, but I will absolutely quit if I have to add 3 hours a day commuting to/from downtown.

So you took a job so you could work from home one day a month?? That makes no sense.

DP, but use your context clues. If my second grader can do it, so can you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

I took a Fed job based on the fact it's 1 day a month telework. Prior to that, I was a SAHM. We don't *need* my meager salary but it's nice to have a little extra, takes some pressure off DH as the sole provider, plus it's something to do while the kids are in school. My DH has weird work hours so the telework factor is what makes it all possible for me in the first place; to work around other needs at home. I'm not sure what sort of schedule my office had pre-Covid, but I will absolutely quit if I have to add 3 hours a day commuting to/from downtown.

So you took a job so you could work from home one day a month?? That makes no sense.

Pardon my typo. Had you read the rest of my response, you might have figured out I meant to type telework with only 1 day a month in office.

No, once I read the first line, I thought you were not very smart and stopped reading. But thanks for clarifying.

You’re the one who’s not very smart.

(not the quoted PP, but an intelligent person who can read and discern meaning)