Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I had a very nice NYE in Adams Morgan without anyone mentioning a car jacking mugging or murder concern. Different people have different perspectives. The real reality check is that your opinion is not shared by the majority of dc residents, and all the vitriol you share here and on x isn't helping sway others.
I understand that having a scapegoat for a crime increase is a comforting feeling, but it won't lead to any meaningful change or progress.

Guess it depends on the night

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I had a very nice NYE in Adams Morgan without anyone mentioning a car jacking mugging or murder concern. Different people have different perspectives. The real reality check is that your opinion is not shared by the majority of dc residents, and all the vitriol you share here and on x isn't helping sway others.
I understand that having a scapegoat for a crime increase is a comforting feeling, but it won't lead to any meaningful change or progress.

Guess it depends on the night

Did you read the message you posted.l? It was a DV situation. As scary as that probably was for the two people involved, I don't see how that has anything to do with me being a potential target for crime.

But then again, that's what the crime bros do. They post and repost without any critical or nuanced thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a reward but no arrests.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/woma...ide-of-2024/3504663/

An 18 year old cannot rent a hotel room, who was the party host? Surprised that a nice DC hotel would still be allowing these large parties in single rooms after the Days Inn shooting. Need better control by front desk, and aren't fobs required for elevators in most hotels?

Actually they can, because the DC Human Rights laws prohibit age discrimination. (And I know this because when DC hotels tried to require a 21+ age restriction, they were threatened with a lawsuit.)

It's tragic how many DC laws to uphold the rights of young people result in their premature passing. You could say the same of all the restorative leniency measures that result in unreformed youth back out repeatedly until their crimes escalate to murder of each other (and everyone else)

I imagine the killer has a sealed juvenile record, not sure how long he has been 18. No adult record in DC. He was reported missing as a youth by MPD. You would think kids in that situation and families would get interventions and services, but often the kids seem to die prematurely or go on to serious crimes, as he did at 18. Randomly shooting into a party he was asked to leave and killing that young lady home from college. She was doing something with her life now, senselessly, it is over. He wasn't even targeting her, just pointless.

The kid shot in Brookland breaking into a car had repeatedly been reported missing. Same names over and over in MPD texts and tweets. A 14 yr old girl named So'Fine in a FH building has been reported repeatedly, search her name on the MPD twitter. No interventions there, guess the voucher program did not magically transform her life or provide effective services. Hope her life does not end in tragedy or incarceration.

This city spends a fortune while failing its children. That they give the locked up kids at DCYRS Call of Duty and GTA to play, and little education, is a travesty. It's like they groom them into criminality w/no consequences and rampant truancy and if there is any consequence, it's a chance to practice to "level up."

This is exactly it. I have asked different representatives of agencies repeatedly to detail the education and life skills children in custody receive as part of 'youth reform', so that they and the community are safer when they are released. Crickets. Allen, especially, should speak to this as he has led the youth leniency charge in our city with his reformation act. Why can't he supply details specifically on this? Oh wait, I'm sure he would just finger point and make excuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I had a very nice NYE in Adams Morgan without anyone mentioning a car jacking mugging or murder concern. Different people have different perspectives. The real reality check is that your opinion is not shared by the majority of dc residents, and all the vitriol you share here and on x isn't helping sway others.
I understand that having a scapegoat for a crime increase is a comforting feeling, but it won't lead to any meaningful change or progress.

Guess it depends on the night

Did you read the message you posted.l? It was a DV situation. As scary as that probably was for the two people involved, I don't see how that has anything to do with me being a potential target for crime.

But then again, that's what the crime bros do. They post and repost without any critical or nuanced thinking.

Maybe the violence interrupters had the day off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Your "voice" has carried the day for years now, while the city declines and shocking numbers of brown and black KIDS are shot and too often KILLED. The racism of denying that or seeming to not care is disgusting, whether from keyboard warriors or officials.

Yeah, these policies are killing people, and our leadership doesn't care. Every time someone is murdered and we are able to look at the records of the shooter, they have a string of serious violent crimes they committed and were repeatedly let go for or given just a few months. DCCrimeFacts listed a case where someone took a gun and tried to murder someone, it was caught on tape, and they were given a deal where they had to spend no time spent behind bars. Now authorities say they killed someone. The Days In shooter murdered a woman and shot several others, and has been allowed to walk free for almost too years, and now shot up a house in MD. Contee said homicide suspects have been arrested on average 11 times previously, but the system keeps setting them free.

These policies are killing people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Your "voice" has carried the day for years now, while the city declines and shocking numbers of brown and black KIDS are shot and too often KILLED. The racism of denying that or seeming to not care is disgusting, whether from keyboard warriors or officials.

Yeah, these policies are killing people, and our leadership doesn't care. Every time someone is murdered and we are able to look at the records of the shooter, they have a string of serious violent crimes they committed and were repeatedly let go for or given just a few months. DCCrimeFacts listed a case where someone took a gun and tried to murder someone, it was caught on tape, and they were given a deal where they had to spend no time spent behind bars. Now authorities say they killed someone. The Days In shooter murdered a woman and shot several others, and has been allowed to walk free for almost too years, and now shot up a house in MD. Contee said homicide suspects have been arrested on average 11 times previously, but the system keeps setting them free.

These policies are killing people.

What does my voice have anything to do with the USAO decisions to not prosecute cases? You're not drawing a throughline that I understand.

[Anonymous]

I will preface this by saying I am a former prosecutor. Even if we increase law enforcement, what do we about a generation of teens and young adults who feel like they have nothing to lose? Until we address that issue, nothing will change. We can jail all of the people who commit crimes in DC but there is another batch coming right behind them that are poor, uneducated or undereducated, have no life skills, received limited parenting and can’t get a job that will allow them to live in a SAFE neighborhood with adequate resources (food, transportation, clothing, etc.). If even educated people making $60/70k are barely making it in DC and these people don’t make even a fraction of that and know that there is literally no way out of the poverty cycle they are in unless they become an athlete, what do we do? They literally have nothing to lose.

Jail or the hug a thug programs provide food and shelter. On the street, they have neither. Having gone out into the community to meet with crime victims, I can say I’ve seen so many hopeless people in living situations that make jail seem like the Four Seasons (infested with roaches and rodents, overcrowded with unemployed and unemployable people,
etc.). Truly depressing situations that made me so grateful for my life. I don’t have the answer to this question but would be curious about your responses.

[Anonymous]

This poor child and her poor family.

https://wtop.com/crime/2024/01/arrest-made-in-new-years-day-hotel-shooting-death/

[Anonymous]

Did you read the message you posted.l? It was a DV situation. As scary as that probably was for the two people involved, I don't see how that has anything to do with me being a potential target for crime.

Walking down Belmont in the middle of an assault situation breaking out on the sidewalk I'm sure YOU would have been TOTES SAFE buttercup. After all, you are above it all.

Or sitting on a bus in Takoma Park this am when a fare evader pulled a gun on the driver.

After all bullets only hit their targets, right? (Unless you are in a pricey hotel in FH)

And how is DV scary for the PERP? Do you even read your blather?

There is way too much random violence, much of it involving guns and repeat criminals, in public spaces in DC. None of us is immune, not in a nice hotel or outside Wegmans or walking down a nice and busy street in Adams Morgan during commuting hours.

Re: voices and USAO, Graves has responded to public pressure and Congressional scrutiny in the past and dialed up the prosecution rate into the 50s, from the 30s. When attention wanes, it drops again. Proof is in the pudding. Prior to 2017, under both D & R appointees, was consistently in the 70s, in line with other D cities.

[Anonymous]

^ DP but I assume that is the point PP is trying to make @ USAO and public attention. It's the obvious one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will preface this by saying I am a former prosecutor. Even if we increase law enforcement, what do we about a generation of teens and young adults who feel like they have nothing to lose? Until we address that issue, nothing will change. We can jail all of the people who commit crimes in DC but there is another batch coming right behind them that are poor, uneducated or undereducated, have no life skills, received limited parenting and can’t get a job that will allow them to live in a SAFE neighborhood with adequate resources (food, transportation, clothing, etc.). If even educated people making $60/70k are barely making it in DC and these people don’t make even a fraction of that and know that there is literally no way out of the poverty cycle they are in unless they become an athlete, what do we do? They literally have nothing to lose.

Jail or the hug a thug programs provide food and shelter. On the street, they have neither. Having gone out into the community to meet with crime victims, I can say I’ve seen so many hopeless people in living situations that make jail seem like the Four Seasons (infested with roaches and rodents, overcrowded with unemployed and unemployable people,
etc.). Truly depressing situations that made me so grateful for my life. I don’t have the answer to this question but would be curious about your responses.

These are not new issues. They were debated when Lyndon Johnson was president. We don't have to solve all the world's problems or end poverty before we're allowed to prosecute murderers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I had a very nice NYE in Adams Morgan without anyone mentioning a car jacking mugging or murder concern. Different people have different perspectives. The real reality check is that your opinion is not shared by the majority of dc residents, and all the vitriol you share here and on x isn't helping sway others.
I understand that having a scapegoat for a crime increase is a comforting feeling, but it won't lead to any meaningful change or progress.

Guess it depends on the night

Did you read the message you posted.l? It was a DV situation. As scary as that probably was for the two people involved, I don't see how that has anything to do with me being a potential target for crime.

But then again, that's what the crime bros do. They post and repost without any critical or nuanced thinking.

Exactly this. Unless you catch a stray in a neighborhood you shouldn’t be in or go to a hotel room with a guy you shouldn’t be with, this is not an issue for DCUM posters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will preface this by saying I am a former prosecutor. Even if we increase law enforcement, what do we about a generation of teens and young adults who feel like they have nothing to lose? Until we address that issue, nothing will change. We can jail all of the people who commit crimes in DC but there is another batch coming right behind them that are poor, uneducated or undereducated, have no life skills, received limited parenting and can’t get a job that will allow them to live in a SAFE neighborhood with adequate resources (food, transportation, clothing, etc.). If even educated people making $60/70k are barely making it in DC and these people don’t make even a fraction of that and know that there is literally no way out of the poverty cycle they are in unless they become an athlete, what do we do? They literally have nothing to lose.

Jail or the hug a thug programs provide food and shelter. On the street, they have neither. Having gone out into the community to meet with crime victims, I can say I’ve seen so many hopeless people in living situations that make jail seem like the Four Seasons (infested with roaches and rodents, overcrowded with unemployed and unemployable people,
etc.). Truly depressing situations that made me so grateful for my life. I don’t have the answer to this question but would be curious about your responses.

These are not new issues. They were debated when Lyndon Johnson was president. We don't have to solve all the world's problems or end poverty before we're allowed to prosecute murderers.

You are responding to me. Then
you will continue to have murderers. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will preface this by saying I am a former prosecutor. Even if we increase law enforcement, what do we about a generation of teens and young adults who feel like they have nothing to lose? Until we address that issue, nothing will change. We can jail all of the people who commit crimes in DC but there is another batch coming right behind them that are poor, uneducated or undereducated, have no life skills, received limited parenting and can’t get a job that will allow them to live in a SAFE neighborhood with adequate resources (food, transportation, clothing, etc.). If even educated people making $60/70k are barely making it in DC and these people don’t make even a fraction of that and know that there is literally no way out of the poverty cycle they are in unless they become an athlete, what do we do? They literally have nothing to lose.

Jail or the hug a thug programs provide food and shelter. On the street, they have neither. Having gone out into the community to meet with crime victims, I can say I’ve seen so many hopeless people in living situations that make jail seem like the Four Seasons (infested with roaches and rodents, overcrowded with unemployed and unemployable people,
etc.). Truly depressing situations that made me so grateful for my life. I don’t have the answer to this question but would be curious about your responses.

These are not new issues. They were debated when Lyndon Johnson was president. We don't have to solve all the world's problems or end poverty before we're allowed to prosecute murderers.

You are responding to me. Then
you will continue to have murderers. 🤷🏻‍♀️

So they’ve eliminated poverty in Baltimore? Huh. TIL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I had a very nice NYE in Adams Morgan without anyone mentioning a car jacking mugging or murder concern. Different people have different perspectives. The real reality check is that your opinion is not shared by the majority of dc residents, and all the vitriol you share here and on x isn't helping sway others.
I understand that having a scapegoat for a crime increase is a comforting feeling, but it won't lead to any meaningful change or progress.

Guess it depends on the night

Did you read the message you posted.l? It was a DV situation. As scary as that probably was for the two people involved, I don't see how that has anything to do with me being a potential target for crime.

But then again, that's what the crime bros do. They post and repost without any critical or nuanced thinking.

Exactly this. Unless you catch a stray in a neighborhood you shouldn’t be in or go to a hotel room with a guy you shouldn’t be with, this is not an issue for DCUM posters.

Or get carjacked. Or be robbed at gunpoint during the afternoon outside a metro station, as I was.