Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

[Anonymous]

There is a reward but no arrests.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/woma...ide-of-2024/3504663/

An 18 year old cannot rent a hotel room, who was the party host? Surprised that a nice DC hotel would still be allowing these large parties in single rooms after the Days Inn shooting. Need better control by front desk, and aren't fobs required for elevators in most hotels?

Actually they can, because the DC Human Rights laws prohibit age discrimination. (And I know this because when DC hotels tried to require a 21+ age restriction, they were threatened with a lawsuit.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has heard Frumin speak knows he goes on about "Janeese!" quite admiringly. Her viable challenge from Gore has shifted her rhetoric slightly, Frumin seems oblivious. I'm not sure he even wants the job tbh. He got in talking about W3 for all, bike lanes and pickleball and he shows no genuine action based signs of shifting off that.

They are not going to "seize the day" and move quickly re: crime. They have to hear from "all perspectives" per Matt, meaning DSA and DCJL will pack the room with activists in matching shirts. [b]

The rest of us have to coach our teens re: carjacking strategies and feel worried going to Wegmans in broad daylight. If we are robbed and cooperate, we may still be shot by a teen as is the new trend, or we may be shot at as a mere witness.

NO we do not need to eradicate every human ill before crime can drop. Baltimore, just up 95 is a present day example of what works. Who, when watching The Wire thought that DC would become LESS SAFE THAN BALTIMORE?!!! In the 90s homicides were not happening at the Chevy Chase Pavillion nor were people robbed outside grocery stores in broad daylight in busy areas.

So your thoughts and opinions matter, but not other citizens? Maybe democracy ain't for you

Lol, DSA in the house? People have had since 2017 to let their thoughts and opinions be known, as crime of all types and homicides have increased. DSA/DCJL voices have predominated for the last several YEARS, as you would know had you paid the slightest attention. Hearing rooms packed with one message advocates in matching shirts, some flown in.

In the meantime, DC has become an outlier among major cities with it's crime trends, more homicides than BALTIMORE. Most crime victims in DC are POC and a record number of juveniles have been shot and even killed. That gives normal human beings a sense of urgency but not those who want to use soaring unchecked crime to leverage political goals.

So miss me with your endless yapping and running the clock tactics and attempts to claim all human ills must be extinguished before crime can dip. Baltimore, just up 95 shows that is a lie. Lives are being lost and we are being held hostage while they try to ram through DSA goals with crime as the pretext. Tell the family of the murdered teen girl that what we need is more pontificating and posturing and more talking points drafted by dark money.

It is RACIST to claim that none of these victims matter, we just need W3 apartments for all or guaranteed basic income or more bike lanes before we can lower crime. Baltimore says NONE of that is true.

And if Graves wants to claim it is resources, the lab, etc. that prevented papering, why is it that he can dial the rate up when under pressure/scrutiny? If he could not do the work of his office without more resources, why was he not going to media and DOJ? Why is it that prosecution rates were consistently over 70% before 2017 with frequent lab issues, etc. in DC, but then plummeted to roughly 33%? He gets them over 50% when the spotlight is on or he has been called up to the Hill.

Violent and dangerous people of all ages are frequently not charged, even for gun crimes. If charged, they are plead down and often put on pre-trial release with no meaningful supervision or consequences for failing to comply with terms of release or attend court dates. Catch and release emboldens criminals and allows them to continue to prey in the community, especially in W7 & 8.

Nope, not DSA. Nor do I think that victims don't matter. Just another DC citizen with a voice and opinion that carries equal weight to yours.

Your "voice" has carried the day for years now, while the city declines and shocking numbers of brown and black KIDS are shot and too often KILLED. The racism of denying that or seeming to not care is disgusting, whether from keyboard warriors or officials.

The Council is captured ideologically (and likely financially by murky $) by ideas even the West Coast has abandoned. Live with the results, as all that can will move and take their tax $ with them. Not sure how long you have been here but DC used to be full of empty schools and people underwater on mortgages. Could happen again, especially with the death of downtown and the still not fully felt CRE implosion. You win, PP! After 30+ years EoTP we are actively planning to move as are others. In the meantime, DC businesses struggle, more jobs lost, further decline in revenues that pay for the bike lanes and other prized projects.

It's not that Frumin does not understand/grasp, his master is not his constituents, clearly. Whether the serve an ideology or shady funding sources, the results are clear. With each new low, they double down. They could just copy Baltimore and crime would plummet. Yet, more and more and more of the opposite. To what end? Who benefits?

A reality check:

[Anonymous]

So much money spent on development, City Ridge is spiffy, with Equinox and all. But, who wants to go to Wegmans and have a gun held to your head on a Sunday afternoon?

Cooperative crime victims are increasingly shot or stabbed. Now witnesses are being sprayed with rifle fire in NW in broad daylight.

Parents with infants in the car may be carjacked in Dupont

This is not a good quality of life. Before when DC had high crime, it was CHEAP. People will not pay this much for this level of risk and the "criminal justice ecosystem" is not changing course. Parents who were the tax base for the city, who invested in and stuck with DCPS, now are finding themselves and their kids in truly dangerous conditions.

If interest rates were lower, more would already be gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has heard Frumin speak knows he goes on about "Janeese!" quite admiringly. Her viable challenge from Gore has shifted her rhetoric slightly, Frumin seems oblivious. I'm not sure he even wants the job tbh. He got in talking about W3 for all, bike lanes and pickleball and he shows no genuine action based signs of shifting off that.

They are not going to "seize the day" and move quickly re: crime. They have to hear from "all perspectives" per Matt, meaning DSA and DCJL will pack the room with activists in matching shirts. [b]

The rest of us have to coach our teens re: carjacking strategies and feel worried going to Wegmans in broad daylight. If we are robbed and cooperate, we may still be shot by a teen as is the new trend, or we may be shot at as a mere witness.

NO we do not need to eradicate every human ill before crime can drop. Baltimore, just up 95 is a present day example of what works. Who, when watching The Wire thought that DC would become LESS SAFE THAN BALTIMORE?!!! In the 90s homicides were not happening at the Chevy Chase Pavillion nor were people robbed outside grocery stores in broad daylight in busy areas.

So your thoughts and opinions matter, but not other citizens? Maybe democracy ain't for you

Lol, DSA in the house? People have had since 2017 to let their thoughts and opinions be known, as crime of all types and homicides have increased. DSA/DCJL voices have predominated for the last several YEARS, as you would know had you paid the slightest attention. Hearing rooms packed with one message advocates in matching shirts, some flown in.

In the meantime, DC has become an outlier among major cities with it's crime trends, more homicides than BALTIMORE. Most crime victims in DC are POC and a record number of juveniles have been shot and even killed. That gives normal human beings a sense of urgency but not those who want to use soaring unchecked crime to leverage political goals.

So miss me with your endless yapping and running the clock tactics and attempts to claim all human ills must be extinguished before crime can dip. Baltimore, just up 95 shows that is a lie. Lives are being lost and we are being held hostage while they try to ram through DSA goals with crime as the pretext. Tell the family of the murdered teen girl that what we need is more pontificating and posturing and more talking points drafted by dark money.

It is RACIST to claim that none of these victims matter, we just need W3 apartments for all or guaranteed basic income or more bike lanes before we can lower crime. Baltimore says NONE of that is true.

And if Graves wants to claim it is resources, the lab, etc. that prevented papering, why is it that he can dial the rate up when under pressure/scrutiny? If he could not do the work of his office without more resources, why was he not going to media and DOJ? Why is it that prosecution rates were consistently over 70% before 2017 with frequent lab issues, etc. in DC, but then plummeted to roughly 33%? He gets them over 50% when the spotlight is on or he has been called up to the Hill.

Violent and dangerous people of all ages are frequently not charged, even for gun crimes. If charged, they are plead down and often put on pre-trial release with no meaningful supervision or consequences for failing to comply with terms of release or attend court dates. Catch and release emboldens criminals and allows them to continue to prey in the community, especially in W7 & 8.

Nope, not DSA. Nor do I think that victims don't matter. Just another DC citizen with a voice and opinion that carries equal weight to yours.

Your "voice" has carried the day for years now, while the city declines and shocking numbers of brown and black KIDS are shot and too often KILLED. The racism of denying that or seeming to not care is disgusting, whether from keyboard warriors or officials.

The Council is captured ideologically (and likely financially by murky $) by ideas even the West Coast has abandoned. Live with the results, as all that can will move and take their tax $ with them. Not sure how long you have been here but DC used to be full of empty schools and people underwater on mortgages. Could happen again, especially with the death of downtown and the still not fully felt CRE implosion. You win, PP! After 30+ years EoTP we are actively planning to move as are others. In the meantime, DC businesses struggle, more jobs lost, further decline in revenues that pay for the bike lanes and other prized projects.

It's not that Frumin does not understand/grasp, his master is not his constituents, clearly. Whether the serve an ideology or shady funding sources, the results are clear. With each new low, they double down. They could just copy Baltimore and crime would plummet. Yet, more and more and more of the opposite. To what end? Who benefits?

A reality check:

I had a very nice NYE in Adams Morgan without anyone mentioning a car jacking mugging or murder concern. Different people have different perspectives. The real reality check is that your opinion is not shared by the majority of dc residents, and all the vitriol you share here and on x isn't helping sway others.
I understand that having a scapegoat for a crime increase is a comforting feeling, but it won't lead to any meaningful change or progress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

There is a reward but no arrests.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/woma...ide-of-2024/3504663/

An 18 year old cannot rent a hotel room, who was the party host? Surprised that a nice DC hotel would still be allowing these large parties in single rooms after the Days Inn shooting. Need better control by front desk, and aren't fobs required for elevators in most hotels?

Actually they can, because the DC Human Rights laws prohibit age discrimination. (And I know this because when DC hotels tried to require a 21+ age restriction, they were threatened with a lawsuit.)

We'll see if a college freshman home on break hosted the party in a pretty nice hotel. Were said to be 10 people in the room, will anyone cooperate and name her killer?

And if he's arrested and charged with felony murder, will an activist, former public defender judge let him out pre-trial as happened with the Days Inn murderer? That guy committed more violent crimes and despite the repeated requests of USAO, Graves himself, he was not held.

Finally he shot up an occupied house in MD and was incarcerated. His trial for shooting 5 women and killing one in Van Ness is still pending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had a very nice NYE in Adams Morgan without anyone mentioning a car jacking mugging or murder concern. Different people have different perspectives. The real reality check is that your opinion is not shared by the majority of dc residents, and all the vitriol you share here and on x isn't helping sway others.
I understand that having a scapegoat for a crime increase is a comforting feeling, but it won't lead to any meaningful change or progress.

Not my post on X. I don't think there is one scapegoat, just a trajectory that is an outlier among major D cities. How long have you been in DC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a very nice NYE in Adams Morgan without anyone mentioning a car jacking mugging or murder concern. Different people have different perspectives. The real reality check is that your opinion is not shared by the majority of dc residents, and all the vitriol you share here and on x isn't helping sway others.
I understand that having a scapegoat for a crime increase is a comforting feeling, but it won't lead to any meaningful change or progress.

Not my post on X. I don't think there is one scapegoat, just a trajectory that is an outlier among major D cities. How long have you been in DC?

19 years. Lived on h st during the Murray's era, when you had to tell cabs NORTHEAST as clearly as possible AFTER you got in the cab because nobody wanted to drive there.

This past year was insanely bad. I work for the city and hate how this year went. While I don't think it's all Bowsers fault, I think it's very clear we've had a disinterested executive since at least 2020 when the Bloomberg VP bid flamed out and she realized that nationally she didn't have anywhere to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

There is a reward but no arrests.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/woma...ide-of-2024/3504663/

An 18 year old cannot rent a hotel room, who was the party host? Surprised that a nice DC hotel would still be allowing these large parties in single rooms after the Days Inn shooting. Need better control by front desk, and aren't fobs required for elevators in most hotels?

Actually they can, because the DC Human Rights laws prohibit age discrimination. (And I know this because when DC hotels tried to require a 21+ age restriction, they were threatened with a lawsuit.)

This is what a “welcoming” Ward 3 is all about. Promises made, promises kept!

[Anonymous]

Oh wow, he shot into the room/party, she wasn't even an intended target, just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dcs-first-homicide-of-2024-reported-on-new-years-day-just-one-hour-after-midnight

Same scenario as Days Inn shooting. Utterly senseless.

RIP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a very nice NYE in Adams Morgan without anyone mentioning a car jacking mugging or murder concern. Different people have different perspectives. The real reality check is that your opinion is not shared by the majority of dc residents, and all the vitriol you share here and on x isn't helping sway others.
I understand that having a scapegoat for a crime increase is a comforting feeling, but it won't lead to any meaningful change or progress.

Not my post on X. I don't think there is one scapegoat, just a trajectory that is an outlier among major D cities. How long have you been in DC?

19 years. Lived on h st during the Murray's era, when you had to tell cabs NORTHEAST as clearly as possible AFTER you got in the cab because nobody wanted to drive there.

This past year was insanely bad. I work for the city and hate how this year went. While I don't think it's all Bowsers fault, I think it's very clear we've had a disinterested executive since at least 2020 when the Bloomberg VP bid flamed out and she realized that nationally she didn't have anywhere to go.

The decline is striking for sure. I also don't think it's all down to Bowser, a lot has to do with the Council, Graves, Schwab and judges, both at DC Sup Ct and COA. I don't think the RW or TW would have been some huge improvement over her.

Here since early 90s, EoTP for most of it. Sad to see a lot of gains slipping away. Would NEVER have imagined Baltimore as safer. I joke they should reboot The Wire, set it in DC and maybe public attention and shame will ultimately help save us all.

The trajectory could be turned around but those in power seem disinterested. Death by 1,000 cuts to the QoL here. I know people who are similarly stuck due to work, it's hard.

[Anonymous]

Had her whole life ahead of her, home on college break. I can't imagine.

[Anonymous]

Thank goodness, the killer has been arrested. He's 18, hope he is held longer than until 21. Doesn't bring her back but at least her mom has a crumb of justice. A lot of murders in DC are never closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

There is a reward but no arrests.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/woma...ide-of-2024/3504663/

An 18 year old cannot rent a hotel room, who was the party host? Surprised that a nice DC hotel would still be allowing these large parties in single rooms after the Days Inn shooting. Need better control by front desk, and aren't fobs required for elevators in most hotels?

Actually they can, because the DC Human Rights laws prohibit age discrimination. (And I know this because when DC hotels tried to require a 21+ age restriction, they were threatened with a lawsuit.)

It's tragic how many DC laws to uphold the rights of young people result in their premature passing. You could say the same of all the restorative leniency measures that result in unreformed youth back out repeatedly until their crimes escalate to murder of each other (and everyone else)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness, the killer has been arrested. He's 18, hope he is held longer than until 21. Doesn't bring her back but at least her mom has a crumb of justice. A lot of murders in DC are never closed.

Why would they hold him longer than 21, given the DC penchant to treat youth crimes as mischief?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a reward but no arrests.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/woma...ide-of-2024/3504663/

An 18 year old cannot rent a hotel room, who was the party host? Surprised that a nice DC hotel would still be allowing these large parties in single rooms after the Days Inn shooting. Need better control by front desk, and aren't fobs required for elevators in most hotels?

Actually they can, because the DC Human Rights laws prohibit age discrimination. (And I know this because when DC hotels tried to require a 21+ age restriction, they were threatened with a lawsuit.)

It's tragic how many DC laws to uphold the rights of young people result in their premature passing. You could say the same of all the restorative leniency measures that result in unreformed youth back out repeatedly until their crimes escalate to murder of each other (and everyone else)

I imagine the killer has a sealed juvenile record, not sure how long he has been 18. No adult record in DC. He was reported missing as a youth by MPD. You would think kids in that situation and families would get interventions and services, but often the kids seem to die prematurely or go on to serious crimes, as he did at 18. Randomly shooting into a party he was asked to leave and killing that young lady home from college. She was doing something with her life now, senselessly, it is over. He wasn't even targeting her, just pointless.

The kid shot in Brookland breaking into a car had repeatedly been reported missing. Same names over and over in MPD texts and tweets. A 14 yr old girl named So'Fine in a FH building has been reported repeatedly, search her name on the MPD twitter. No interventions there, guess the voucher program did not magically transform her life or provide effective services. Hope her life does not end in tragedy or incarceration.

This city spends a fortune while failing its children. That they give the locked up kids at DCYRS Call of Duty and GTA to play, and little education, is a travesty. It's like they groom them into criminality w/no consequences and rampant truancy and if there is any consequence, it's a chance to practice to "level up."