Changes coming to universities’ obsession with DEI?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt it. Admissions offices at top colleges consistently make sure to enroll fewer than 40% white students. This is the college environment they prefer - make sure whites are a minority. They will wait for public outrage to move on and then double-down looking for the next activist AOC or Kamala (an aff action/employee child who STILL couldn’t get into Cal or Stanford) in their applicant pool. It’s unfortunate.

Also, blacks have the same rate of antisemitism as self-declared neo-Nazis. This is consistent in every poll. Think abt that. Hispanics also have increasingly high rates of antisemitism and muslims rates are unsurprisingly off the charts - 75% of Gazans support Hamas.

The demographics of this country are extremely different than they were 40 yrs ago and what is happening on college campuses just reflects that.

This means that Black people and neo-Nazis are a small minority of the overall population, as there aren't many neo-Nazis.

Someone doesn’t understand the concept of rates….

I do understand. My point is that you are trying to convince people that the majority of Black people are antisemitic. That is not the case.

Also, the majority of DEI efforts on college campuses were introduced and started by white people, who then hired URM people to run these departments/efforts.

True. These so-called progressives demonize whites, conservatives, Jews, capitalism, etc. causing so much of the resentment that pervades college campuses today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The left loves to propagate this myth that Jews are supposed to live in fear of evangelical Christians when the reality is the main thrust of antisemitism in the U.S. comes from radical black power movements like BLM that are openly pro-Hamas and tainted with all kinds of Farrakhanism along with the standard Jew hatred of radical Islam.

Signed, a Jew who cannot understand why any Jew votes for Democrats

Agree wholeheartedly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think DEI is not the issue but how it’s implemented. I think in order for kids to learn and appreciate diversity, they need to take risks and have discussions. And ask questions. I rather someone ask me about my culture vs make assumptions. Kids (and adults) are scared to say anything for fear of offending others. I read this article from a teen and I think he makes a good point: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-12-10/los-angeles-high-school-cancel-culture-free-speech. Even professors are venting online. Again-I think it’s important. But even professors are questioning how it’s implemented. And of course the right wingers then seize the opportunity to use DEI to say the left isn’t tolerant.

The left isn’t tolerant at all. That much is clear. Don’t you dare misgender anyone on a college campus. You will be suspended or worse. Women who complained abt having to share a locker room were told to seek therapy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

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Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

No, it’s here to stay in the academy and the business world, especially any biz that operates globally.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

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Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

Right, DEI is the cause for the rising tuition costs, not all the ridiculous amenities.

This. The obsession is with OP, not the colleges.

Yeah, I often wonder if there is a lobbyist or paid political poster on here. They post again and again trying to inject false information, negative vibes or propaganda into DEI, diversity, holistic admissions, URM applicants, etc etc. And using the horror in Israel and Palestine as a wedge to try create false antisemitic implications towards liberals as a whole now. It just seems so politically motivated.

There are absolutely paid spin masters on DCUM but mostly just regular people. That said I also see a thread being woven and feel like it is too consistent to be just regular people. I'm 60ish years old and seen bald faced antisemitism since I was little. It was never the granola/hippie/coexist crowd. This idea that those "progressives" are the real bigots has been recent. Less than 10 years? And it does feel like it is connected to the elections.

I'm not a social scientist. I don't have survey data. I'm just an old guy wondering why people I've learned to not trust are now acting like they are (and have been) my true friends all along.

It smells funny. I don't know what it is but I do know it wasn't there before.

The only ones I’ve seen carrying tiki torches and yelling “Jews will not replace us” are white supremacists and white nationalists. I.e the extreme right wing lunatics NOT progressives.

Antisemitism in the US has for some time been a predominantly left wing and frankly black phenomenon. Conservative rural whites are the LEAST likely to believe the Holocaust was a myth.

Look at page 103

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_tT4jyzG.pdf#page=83

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

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Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

No, it’s here to stay in the academy and the business world, especially any biz that operates globally.

Yep, it's not liberalism it's CYA, and it's not going anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

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Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

No, it’s here to stay in the academy and the business world, especially any biz that operates globally.

Yep, it's not liberalism it's CYA, and it's not going anywhere.

Nope. Global academic and business worlds think DEI is insane and/or ridiculous and v limited to the US, or perhaps Anglophone sphere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The left loves to propagate this myth that Jews are supposed to live in fear of evangelical Christians when the reality is the main thrust of antisemitism in the U.S. comes from radical black power movements like BLM that are openly pro-Hamas and tainted with all kinds of Farrakhanism along with the standard Jew hatred of radical Islam.

Signed, a Jew who cannot understand why any Jew votes for Democrats

Wow! After all that Biden has done for Israel, you would prefer to vote for Trump?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The left loves to propagate this myth that Jews are supposed to live in fear of evangelical Christians when the reality is the main thrust of antisemitism in the U.S. comes from radical black power movements like BLM that are openly pro-Hamas and tainted with all kinds of Farrakhanism along with the standard Jew hatred of radical Islam.

Signed, a Jew who cannot understand why any Jew votes for Democrats

Wow! After all that Biden has done for Israel, you would prefer to vote for Trump?

Seriously. Especially after Trump praised Hamas and Biden is incurring all sorts of political backlash for his unwavering support of Israel.