Changes coming to universities’ obsession with DEI?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

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Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

Right, DEI is the cause for the rising tuition costs, not all the ridiculous amenities.

This. The obsession is with OP, not the colleges.

Yeah, I often wonder if there is a lobbyist or paid political poster on here. They post again and again trying to inject false information, negative vibes or propaganda into DEI, diversity, holistic admissions, URM applicants, etc etc. And using the horror in Israel and Palestine as a wedge to try create false antisemitic implications towards liberals as a whole now. It just seems so politically motivated.

There are absolutely paid spin masters on DCUM but mostly just regular people. That said I also see a thread being woven and feel like it is too consistent to be just regular people. I'm 60ish years old and seen bald faced antisemitism since I was little. It was never the granola/hippie/coexist crowd. This idea that those "progressives" are the real bigots has been recent. Less than 10 years? And it does feel like it is connected to the elections.

I'm not a social scientist. I don't have survey data. I'm just an old guy wondering why people I've learned to not trust are now acting like they are (and have been) my true friends all along.

It smells funny. I don't know what it is but I do know it wasn't there before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

“

Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

Right, DEI is the cause for the rising tuition costs, not all the ridiculous amenities.

This. The obsession is with OP, not the colleges.

Yeah, I often wonder if there is a lobbyist or paid political poster on here. They post again and again trying to inject false information, negative vibes or propaganda into DEI, diversity, holistic admissions, URM applicants, etc etc. And using the horror in Israel and Palestine as a wedge to try create false antisemitic implications towards liberals as a whole now. It just seems so politically motivated.

As a Jewish person, I want to offer a heartfelt F You to the poster above. The relationship between the DEI/social justice movement and antisemitism is real and fundamental. People have been talking about it for years. It has come to head recently because of the firestorm of antisemitism we now see on campus. Don't you dare write it off as a political tactic or as exploiting the atrocities in Israel.

GMAFB! Because Israel is now in the spotlight as a genocidal state that practices apartheid we need to limit free speech? F that!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t believe the will, but that was exactly the suggestion just now by Fareed Zakaria on his CNN show.

Based on the comments so far, I guess Fareed is just a moron!

Fareed is the one who was caught with plagiarism. He's been tuned out for years. Who cares what he has to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

“

Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

No because only ignorant morons like yourself view DEI as you have described. Or believe that is what is being taught. I'm not a victim when I am learning about the bad, as well as the good of history.

You're just a big baby.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

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Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?
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Right, DEI is the cause for the rising tuition costs, not all the ridiculous amenities.[/quote]
This. The obsession is with OP, not the colleges. [/quote]

Yeah, I often wonder if there is a lobbyist or paid political poster on here. They post again and again trying to inject false information, negative vibes or propaganda into DEI, diversity, holistic admissions, URM applicants, etc etc. And using the horror in Israel and Palestine as a wedge to try create false antisemitic implications towards liberals as a whole now. It just seems so politically motivated. [/quote]

As a Jewish person, I want to offer a heartfelt F You to the poster above. The relationship between the DEI/social justice movement and antisemitism is real and fundamental. People have been talking about it for years. It has come to head recently because of the firestorm of antisemitism we now see on campus. Don't you dare write it off as a political tactic or as exploiting the atrocities in Israel.[/quote]
There's some hypocrisy here.

You probably can't/don't see the anti-muslim sentiment in the US because you are blind to anything but antisemitism.

Have you ever given one thought to how the Palestinians have felt for the past 50 years?

-signed a Christian[/quote]
Exactly. It was okay when people were publishing anti-Muslim hate speech. But now that Israel is at the receiving end we need to shut it all down. Hypocrisy indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t believe the will, but that was exactly the suggestion just now by Fareed Zakaria on his CNN show.

Based on the comments so far, I guess Fareed is just a moron!

Clearly, Fareed is a MAGA.

Ironic, though.

If Fareed were walking in MAGA heartland, he'd get yelled at to "go back to your own country", or called a sand n*.

Yes, I know he's Indian American, but don't think MAGA heartland people would make that distinction.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

“

Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

Right, DEI is the cause for the rising tuition costs, not all the ridiculous amenities.

This. The obsession is with OP, not the colleges.

Yeah, I often wonder if there is a lobbyist or paid political poster on here. They post again and again trying to inject false information, negative vibes or propaganda into DEI, diversity, holistic admissions, URM applicants, etc etc. And using the horror in Israel and Palestine as a wedge to try create false antisemitic implications towards liberals as a whole now. It just seems so politically motivated.

There are absolutely paid spin masters on DCUM but mostly just regular people. That said I also see a thread being woven and feel like it is too consistent to be just regular people. I'm 60ish years old and seen bald faced antisemitism since I was little. It was never the granola/hippie/coexist crowd. This idea that those "progressives" are the real bigots has been recent. Less than 10 years? And it does feel like it is connected to the elections.

I'm not a social scientist. I don't have survey data. I'm just an old guy wondering why people I've learned to not trust are now acting like they are (and have been) my true friends all along.

It smells funny. I don't know what it is but I do know it wasn't there before.

The only ones I’ve seen carrying tiki torches and yelling “Jews will not replace us” are white supremacists and white nationalists. I.e the extreme right wing lunatics NOT progressives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

“

Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

Right, DEI is the cause for the rising tuition costs, not all the ridiculous amenities.

This. The obsession is with OP, not the colleges.

Yeah, I often wonder if there is a lobbyist or paid political poster on here. They post again and again trying to inject false information, negative vibes or propaganda into DEI, diversity, holistic admissions, URM applicants, etc etc. And using the horror in Israel and Palestine as a wedge to try create false antisemitic implications towards liberals as a whole now. It just seems so politically motivated.

As a Jewish person, I want to offer a heartfelt F You to the poster above. The relationship between the DEI/social justice movement and antisemitism is real and fundamental. People have been talking about it for years. It has come to head recently because of the firestorm of antisemitism we now see on campus. Don't you dare write it off as a political tactic or as exploiting the atrocities in Israel.

There's some hypocrisy here.

You probably can't/don't see the anti-muslim sentiment in the US because you are blind to anything but antisemitism.

Have you ever given one thought to how the Palestinians have felt for the past 50 years?

-signed a Christian

Exactly. It was okay when people were publishing anti-Muslim hate speech. But now that Israel is at the receiving end we need to shut it all down. Hypocrisy indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

“

Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

Right, DEI is the cause for the rising tuition costs, not all the ridiculous amenities.

This. The obsession is with OP, not the colleges.

Yeah, I often wonder if there is a lobbyist or paid political poster on here. They post again and again trying to inject false information, negative vibes or propaganda into DEI, diversity, holistic admissions, URM applicants, etc etc. And using the horror in Israel and Palestine as a wedge to try create false antisemitic implications towards liberals as a whole now. It just seems so politically motivated.

There are absolutely paid spin masters on DCUM but mostly just regular people. That said I also see a thread being woven and feel like it is too consistent to be just regular people. I'm 60ish years old and seen bald faced antisemitism since I was little. It was never the granola/hippie/coexist crowd. This idea that those "progressives" are the real bigots has been recent. Less than 10 years? And it does feel like it is connected to the elections.

I'm not a social scientist. I don't have survey data. I'm just an old guy wondering why people I've learned to not trust are now acting like they are (and have been) my true friends all along.

It smells funny. I don't know what it is but I do know it wasn't there before.

The only ones I’ve seen carrying tiki torches and yelling “Jews will not replace us” are white supremacists and white nationalists. I.e the extreme right wing lunatics NOT progressives.

Antisemitism in the US has for some time been a predominantly left wing and frankly black phenomenon. Conservative rural whites are the LEAST likely to believe the Holocaust was a myth.

Look at page 103

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_tT4jyzG.pdf#page=83

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

“

Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

Right, DEI is the cause for the rising tuition costs, not all the ridiculous amenities.

This. The obsession is with OP, not the colleges.

Yeah, I often wonder if there is a lobbyist or paid political poster on here. They post again and again trying to inject false information, negative vibes or propaganda into DEI, diversity, holistic admissions, URM applicants, etc etc. And using the horror in Israel and Palestine as a wedge to try create false antisemitic implications towards liberals as a whole now. It just seems so politically motivated.

As a Jewish person, I want to offer a heartfelt F You to the poster above. The relationship between the DEI/social justice movement and antisemitism is real and fundamental. People have been talking about it for years. It has come to head recently because of the firestorm of antisemitism we now see on campus. Don't you dare write it off as a political tactic or as exploiting the atrocities in Israel.

GMAFB! Because Israel is now in the spotlight as a genocidal state that practices apartheid we need to limit free speech? F that!

You can't inadvertently misgender someone on campus today without facing severe consequences but you can harass and terrorize Jewish students as they walk through campus because of "free speech?" F You.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

“

Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

Right, DEI is the cause for the rising tuition costs, not all the ridiculous amenities.

This. The obsession is with OP, not the colleges.

Yeah, I often wonder if there is a lobbyist or paid political poster on here. They post again and again trying to inject false information, negative vibes or propaganda into DEI, diversity, holistic admissions, URM applicants, etc etc. And using the horror in Israel and Palestine as a wedge to try create false antisemitic implications towards liberals as a whole now. It just seems so politically motivated.

There are absolutely paid spin masters on DCUM but mostly just regular people. That said I also see a thread being woven and feel like it is too consistent to be just regular people. I'm 60ish years old and seen bald faced antisemitism since I was little. It was never the granola/hippie/coexist crowd. This idea that those "progressives" are the real bigots has been recent. Less than 10 years? And it does feel like it is connected to the elections.

I'm not a social scientist. I don't have survey data. I'm just an old guy wondering why people I've learned to not trust are now acting like they are (and have been) my true friends all along.

It smells funny. I don't know what it is but I do know it wasn't there before.

The only ones I’ve seen carrying tiki torches and yelling “Jews will not replace us” are white supremacists and white nationalists. I.e the extreme right wing lunatics NOT progressives.

Antisemitism in the US has for some time been a predominantly left wing and frankly black phenomenon. Conservative rural whites are the LEAST likely to believe the Holocaust was a myth.

Look at page 103

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_tT4jyzG.pdf#page=83

Wow!!!

A link to dox DCUM readers and the kind of spin you only see from olympic gymnastics. I feel like you just served up a baked potato with cheese and butter and bacon bits and chives.

Anything else you want to throw in there? Something about transsexuals or that pizza place?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

“

Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

Right, DEI is the cause for the rising tuition costs, not all the ridiculous amenities.

This. The obsession is with OP, not the colleges.

Yeah, I often wonder if there is a lobbyist or paid political poster on here. They post again and again trying to inject false information, negative vibes or propaganda into DEI, diversity, holistic admissions, URM applicants, etc etc. And using the horror in Israel and Palestine as a wedge to try create false antisemitic implications towards liberals as a whole now. It just seems so politically motivated.

There are absolutely paid spin masters on DCUM but mostly just regular people. That said I also see a thread being woven and feel like it is too consistent to be just regular people. I'm 60ish years old and seen bald faced antisemitism since I was little. It was never the granola/hippie/coexist crowd. This idea that those "progressives" are the real bigots has been recent. Less than 10 years? And it does feel like it is connected to the elections.

I'm not a social scientist. I don't have survey data. I'm just an old guy wondering why people I've learned to not trust are now acting like they are (and have been) my true friends all along.

It smells funny. I don't know what it is but I do know it wasn't there before.

The only ones I’ve seen carrying tiki torches and yelling “Jews will not replace us” are white supremacists and white nationalists. I.e the extreme right wing lunatics NOT progressives.

Antisemitism in the US has for some time been a predominantly left wing and frankly black phenomenon. Conservative rural whites are the LEAST likely to believe the Holocaust was a myth.

Look at page 103

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_tT4jyzG.pdf#page=83

Wow!!!

A link to dox DCUM readers and the kind of spin you only see from olympic gymnastics. I feel like you just served up a baked potato with cheese and butter and bacon bits and chives.

Anything else you want to throw in there? Something about transsexuals or that pizza place?

What the hell are you saying? Just read the poll. Someone earlier was looking for data. There is it is.

[Anonymous]

Yea, it is weird that the politicos are trying to make city dwelling whites and all blacks the new face of Antisemitism. And rural whites into the new face of inclusion. Feels like a slight of hand thing?

[Anonymous]

DEI has its place but perhaps needs to be pulled back a bit. Probably best for colleges and universities to follow a consistent standard - allow all types of free speech with limited exceptions. This means Maga speakers should also be allowed on campus and not be shouted down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Penn thread has been locked, but someone there posted:

Live by DEI, die by DEI. When our colleges (all of them, with very few exceptions) bought into the idea that the entire world is explained by oppressed vs. oppressors, colonizers vs. colonized, this was an inevitable outcome. The next question is whether trustees will go further and start demanding cuts to the administrative bloat that enables a lot of this. This would not only return colleges to the faculty, but cut costs (which actually helps people, vs. choosing the “right” people to help.) This would also reduce the job market for graduates of “x studies” departments, another good thing.

“

Do you believe universities may indeed return to sanity by reducing or eliminating all the waste on DEI on ever-more-expensive campuses?

These threads are all being started by people who are trying to neutralize colleges’ and academics’ political authority because they want to crush any people or institutions that could oppose either a dictatorship of Russian control over the United States.

Colleges have all sorts of problems, and the DEI programs and liberal, progressive and sincerely conservative movements have all sorts of problems, and the DCUM barrage of anti-college threads has nothing to do with colleges, sincerely held political perspectives or diverse people.

It’s all part of an effort to conquer us. When we try to laugh that kind of concern away, we’re helping the conquerors position the noose around our necks.

This is Little Green Russian Men softening us up so we go through the food processor more smoothly.