Netherlands General Election today
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Anonymous
The website you cited is very random and the information does not inspire trust. |
Anonymous
Another random link. |
Anonymous
I did not find the link random and have used this web site in the past. However, it is good to scrutinize how credible online info is. That web sites compilation of the top 9 safest countries for women is a comprehensive report based on data sourced from the Women, Peace, and Security (WPS) Index, jointly developed by the Georgetown Institute for Women, Peace and Security and the Peace Research Institute Oslo. The WPS Index assesses the status of women's inclusion, access to justice, and overall security across a spectrum of 170 countries. This assessment is structured encompassing a total of 11 distinct indicators: Education Financial inclusion Employment Cellphone use Parliamentary representation Absence of legal discrimination (aggregate score) Son bias (male/female ratio at birth) Discriminatory norms (% of men) Intimate partner violence Community safety (%) Organized violence Further, the list is corroborated by other data. What is the Netherlands ranked in gender equality? The Netherlands cracks the top five countries for women in 2023 after having been ranked No. 8 in 2022. Women made up about 41% of the Dutch parliament last year, up significantly from 31% in 2019 just three years prior. https://www.usnews.com › news › b... Best Countries for Women | U.S. News Progress in gender equality With 77.3 out of 100 points, the Netherlands ranks 3rd in the EU on the Gender Equality Index. Its score is 8.7 points above the EU's score. Since 2010, the Netherlands' score has increased by 3.3 points, but its ranking has remained the same. https://eige.europa.eu › country Netherlands | 2022 | Gender Equality Index |
Anonymous
If not for a small typo, I'd swear this post were written by ChatGPT. |
Anonymous
^^^^ Our experiences are in line with data above. We have quite a few female relatives in the Netherlands and they all feel safe there. We visit regularly and have never had problems with immigrant men harassing females in the group. Such problems may exist to some extent but I don’t think this issue keeps Dutch women awake at night. People seem more concerned about lack of affordable housing and rapid hikes in cost of living/ basic commodities. |
Anonymous
NP. I posted this on a different thread a whole ago and it got deleted, but I'll try again. I was pretty pro-immigration at the start of the Syria conflict, and while in Germany to visit family, I met with some recent immigrant women from Afghanistan and Syria to provide charity and have tea. I was absolutely floored by what they said to me and it really changed my views. They said they hated Germany, didn't want their kids to grow up in the culture, wish they didn't have to be there. I asked why they came to Germany and in short, it was a safe place for their kids and they were able to get a spot. The Syrian lady seemed dismayed that her daughter was taking so well to Germany, playing sport, taking science and math classes, etc. I asked if they had tried to integrate and they said no because of language barriers and practical challenges (child care, etc). They said no one had ever visited them but the social worker, I was the first person to just ask to meet them. And the social worker was really tone deaf, she tried to make fun of them to me by saying one had told her that she would stay with her husband if he took another wife. This is not a good situation, anyone who is looking at Europe with clear eyes sees a tinderbox. I mean, look at Sweden right now, it's a violent mess. |
Anonymous
THIS ^^. I've read her book; she is brilliant. But of course, she's called an "Islamaphobe" for pointing out truths about Muslim immigrants who refuse to assimilate. Of all people who should be able to speak out about this, a Somali-born woman who was genitally mutilated as a child should be at the top of the list. |
Anonymous
Thank you. You are absolutely right. Be prepared for the resident LWNJs to call you an "Islamaphobe" and/or racist. Many of these immigrants HATE the western countries they've been allowed to move to, and will never, ever assimilate to western culture. So why aren't more middle eastern countries stepping up and taking them in? Why move to a country you hate? |
Anonymous
Essentially it is all fundamentalist religious groups that erode women's (and LGBT) rights. European cities would also change having a group of the same fundamentalist Christians as the Duggars, or any other religion that doesn't believe in women's rights and rights for LGBT people. As Europe is becoming more and more secular having large groups of fundamentalist move in and start urban enclaves is really, really bad for women. |
Anonymous
Oh please stop with the hyperbole. The vast majority of the Dutch probably fall under your definition of LWNJ. They are committed to universal health care, tolerant social policies, legalization of recreational weed and prostitution and democracy. Yes there are cultural tensions between some Immigrants and Dutch but there are also many success stories. I have relatives who taught Dutch to Muslim immigrants and they are doing well in Dutch society now . The US and eventually all other western countries will transition to majority non white pretty soon. The biggest risk for civil unrest and wars is not partial not full democracy and organizing politics around race/ religion and ethnic identity rather than political ideas. We have to find more intelligent ways to adapt your democracies to changing demographics rather than pander to hysterical fears. That said, I do think that immigrants should be required to learn the local languages and customs as part of legal residence and citizenship requirements. |
Anonymous
PP here, thank you. At the time that I met with those ladies, there were discussions of having refugee camps in Jordon or a neutral area of Syria. I was against this at the time, I thought they should be able to come to the West where it is safe. I asked them their opinion of this option, and they said they would have preferred it. This made me really reevaluate my beliefs. I realized it was kind of narcissistic to think that they would love the west so much better. And it was kind of degrading to their culture that I thought that it was so disposable in their lives. I know people consider these views Islamophobic. But I came by them by having actual conversations with middle eastern immigrants and listening to what they really want. We are doing them no favors by "rescuing" them from the nations they love, where their families live, etc. They leave behind aging parents and entire communities. These communities are not disposable in their lives. |
Anonymous
First I must say you sound like a very nice and genuine person. However, don’t you think your empirical sample size is way too small for the broad conclusions reached? Also many Afghan and Syrian refugees have no home to go back to thanks to civil wars in those countries. I do believe immigrants should be required to learn local languages and customs but reality is complicated. |
Anonymous
It is too small to apply broadly, but being told directly by an actual Syrian immigrant that my "humanitarian" approach was anything but was a huge eye opener for me. And it led me to my current place of understanding simply sending the refugees to the west isn't actually a viable solution. Part of the reason they can't stay in their countries or regions is that it's been a third rail topic to suggest that the right approach is to find safe areas in pan-arabia vs sending them all to the west. This idea was dismissed as categorically Islamophobic and got no serious consideration as an alternative to simply sending them all to the West. This was a mistake, and recognizing it as a mistake might lead to better solutions going forward. We could have used diplomacy to work with these nations to provide safe areas for the refugees, and we didn't. Look at Palestine-- same issue, same origin, horrific outcomes. At some point, we need to have enough humility to ask ourselves why we are so sure this is the right thing for these populations, when they are telling us otherwise. |
Anonymous
The ME countries do not want a drain on their societies. This trumps even the cultural affinity. Imagine a sibling who falls on hard times. The family bails them out once, twice, but the money is squandered and drama never ends. Relatives want to take them in temporarily, but it's clear that they will never leave, never get a job and never stop mooching. Family loves and is sorry for the sibling, but keeps their distance because their help is useless if the person cannot help him/herself. |
Anonymous
This sentiment exists in the US as well. My job puts me in contact with a lot of young adults who are first- or second-generation immigrants from Middle Eastern countries, mostly Iran and Afghanistan. When gender identity and sexual orientation came up in a discussion, one of them expressed clear disapproval of LGBTQ rights and said something like "this is why a lot of young people [referring to fellow Muslims] don't want to raise their kids in the West". Maybe some of these young adults will move (back) to predominantly Muslim countries. I am sure some of them want to assimilate and have kids who see themselves as American, but we are fooling ourselves if we think that there are not some who have complete disdain for our values and culture. |