up and coming schools

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VCU

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We were impressed by the Towson campus tour and surprised that the other three families on the tour were not from the DMV.

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Would Jmu, Gmu, or VT be considered up an coming?

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Anonymous wrote:Would Jmu, Gmu, or VT be considered up an coming?

JMU and GMU yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Would Jmu, Gmu, or VT be considered up an coming?

JMU and GMU yes.

Are they, though? They both seem kind of plateaued to me. I mean, they're both great options for what they are, but I don't see either currently evolving into a different-level place. Of the three, I'd say VT actually is the most likely "comer."

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Anonymous wrote:Would Jmu, Gmu, or VT be considered up an coming?

I feel like VT has already arrived in terms of popularity. With JMU and GMU, for OOS MD, it’s been more niche. Someone that wants to stay within 2-3 hour drive and have college town/school spirit football environment and isn’t in love with the location for Towson or UMBC might apply to JMU.

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Anonymous wrote:University of Denver

My DS loved it, but chose something closer to home.

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Anonymous wrote:The number of potential students is DECREASING so the number of applications increasing means what exactly?

There are still only so many students.

If they each apply to 15-20 schools, then applications would “increase” at some schools.
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Yes, they are increasing everywhere. Also the lure of study in the USA has the international apps rising, so yes, apps are up.

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Anonymous wrote:Flagships in general seem to be doing well with getting more applicants.

Literally EVERY college in America is getting more applicants because of test optional on the SAT. EVERY college. It's not any reflection on the college or what kind of educational experience they are offering.

This is not even remotely true. The top 100 - 150 schools have higher applications and the rest are seeing significant declines. There are 3 MM fewer college students today vs 10 years ago. There are many schools that are 30-40% smaller today…WVU is a relatively local example.

But it is true.
1) students now apply to 15 or more schools. It used to be five
2) US student population is irrelevant. What is driving this is the anxiety about getting in, the common app. making applications easier, the need to select more and more Reaches/Targets/Safeties, and the horror stories of the top kid in X class getting into only one Safety (it happens).
3) the international numbers keep rising every year. Every Indian, Chinese, Asian, etc. student wants to study here. If UCLA and Berkeley cap that number at 10% of International and OOS students, then those international students apply elsewhere and in droves.
4) If you are a boring white or Asian male, you understand implicitly that you will be passed over for a URM or first-generation - that mindset results in more application.
5) There are very few schools that are 30-40% smaller today. WVU is failing - that's why it is cutting back on offered majors. Google it.
6) Even the Cal States (normally not schools that an OOS student would be interested in) are receiving a flood of applicaitons.

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Anonymous wrote:We were impressed by the Towson campus tour and surprised that the other three families on the tour were not from the DMV.

+1 on Towson. Beautiful campus, good size. It is supposed to be a safety for UMD but frankly it is a nicer school. Watching my kid grind away to live in College Park makes me sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Flagships in general seem to be doing well with getting more applicants.

Literally EVERY college in America is getting more applicants because of test optional on the SAT. EVERY college. It's not any reflection on the college or what kind of educational experience they are offering.

This is not even remotely true. The top 100 - 150 schools have higher applications and the rest are seeing significant declines. There are 3 MM fewer college students today vs 10 years ago. There are many schools that are 30-40% smaller today…WVU is a relatively local example.

But it is true.
1) students now apply to 15 or more schools. It used to be five
2) US student population is irrelevant. What is driving this is the anxiety about getting in, the common app. making applications easier, the need to select more and more Reaches/Targets/Safeties, and the horror stories of the top kid in X class getting into only one Safety (it happens).
3) the international numbers keep rising every year. Every Indian, Chinese, Asian, etc. student wants to study here. If UCLA and Berkeley cap that number at 10% of International and OOS students, then those international students apply elsewhere and in droves.
4) If you are a boring white or Asian male, you understand implicitly that you will be passed over for a URM or first-generation - that mindset results in more application.
5) There are very few schools that are 30-40% smaller today. WVU is failing - that's why it is cutting back on offered majors. Google it.
6) Even the Cal States (normally not schools that an OOS student would be interested in) are receiving a flood of applicaitons.

With the majority of college students bring female, wouldn't it be the Asian and White females (not males) who are passed over the most?

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the USC national merit scholarship very popular with our middle class public school in Brooklyn. wouldn't have been the usual demo for USC

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Anonymous wrote:Purdue and UIUC for engineering and CS

OMG, tell me you know nothing about top CS/engineering schools in US....

Well you obviously don't

These are good, very good, schools for students interested in those fields and its ridic to pretend otherwise. Think UIUC is in top 5 and Purdue is in top 10.

NP, I think the point PP was trying to make is that Illinois and Purdue are NOT "up and coming" schools. They've been well respected and highly ranked Engineering and CS schools for decades.

Hmmm. I think the other PP was making the point that if you think IL and Purdue are up and coming then that means you know nothing about CS/engineering schools.

But so many cooks here now then it's all confusing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Flagships in general seem to be doing well with getting more applicants.

Literally EVERY college in America is getting more applicants because of test optional on the SAT. EVERY college. It's not any reflection on the college or what kind of educational experience they are offering.

This is not even remotely true. The top 100 - 150 schools have higher applications and the rest are seeing significant declines. There are 3 MM fewer college students today vs 10 years ago. There are many schools that are 30-40% smaller today…WVU is a relatively local example.

But it is true.
1) students now apply to 15 or more schools. It used to be five
2) US student population is irrelevant. What is driving this is the anxiety about getting in, the common app. making applications easier, the need to select more and more Reaches/Targets/Safeties, and the horror stories of the top kid in X class getting into only one Safety (it happens).
3) the international numbers keep rising every year. Every Indian, Chinese, Asian, etc. student wants to study here. If UCLA and Berkeley cap that number at 10% of International and OOS students, then those international students apply elsewhere and in droves.
4) If you are a boring white or Asian male, you understand implicitly that you will be passed over for a URM or first-generation - that mindset results in more application.
5) There are very few schools that are 30-40% smaller today. WVU is failing - that's why it is cutting back on offered majors. Google it.
6) Even the Cal States (normally not schools that an OOS student would be interested in) are receiving a flood of applicaitons.

With the majority of college students bring female, wouldn't it be the Asian and White females (not males) who are passed over the most?

White/asian females may be passed over for SLAC (makes have greater chance for non stem major) but for ivy & stem majors it is the white/asian males that are passed over.

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Anonymous wrote:VCU

Shhhhh!
This is our little secret