Why do some high schools allow open lunch and others do not

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Anonymous wrote:Do kids really sit on the floor to eat??!?

Where are the cafeteria tables?

The cafeteria might have space for like 200 kids, if that. What is a school of 2000 going to do, have 10 lunches? Of course kids eat elsewhere. I ate sitting on the floor in the hallway with my friends at RMHS 20 years ago, with one open lunch for everyone, and we thought it was absolutely fine.

Eww that is nasty af

I guess large overcrowding schools are no big deal here. We had grade level lunches and there were tables for everyone. Definitely looking into private schools for middle and high school.

That’s rich. Good luck with that. But, if you want the slow math track and dumb down your kids, private is the way to go.

What makes you believe private schools have slow math tracks?

To feel better knowing that they paid a crap ton of money in real estate to go to a public school that is sub par. Even if you are in excelerated in math, there is little to no writing and no real good teaching at MCPS. And before you bash, yes my kids go here and yes we have moved twice. From Montgomery County, PA to Howard County PA to here. And so far MCPS is by far the worst of the public schools. And yes, the overfilling of kids and lack of nutrition for them is appalling.

Not our experience. Lots of writing.

Name your schools that has lots of writing in K-12? And don't say AP classes in 10-12th grade. That doesn't count.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do kids really sit on the floor to eat??!?

Where are the cafeteria tables?

The cafeteria might have space for like 200 kids, if that. What is a school of 2000 going to do, have 10 lunches? Of course kids eat elsewhere. I ate sitting on the floor in the hallway with my friends at RMHS 20 years ago, with one open lunch for everyone, and we thought it was absolutely fine.

Eww that is nasty af

I guess large overcrowding schools are no big deal here. We had grade level lunches and there were tables for everyone. Definitely looking into private schools for middle and high school.

That’s rich. Good luck with that. But, if you want the slow math track and dumb down your kids, private is the way to go.

Give me a break on the bashing of private schools. My DD graduated Holton taking multivariable calculus as a senior. She also knew how to write papers, won the state chemathon and got a huge scholarship to her top college.

She had breakfast, lunch, and snacks served at Holton as they were not allowed to bring food from home in. They had enough tables/chairs in the cafe or courtyard so the girls could sit and eat. And since they didn't allow cell phones in school, it was a nice environment with healthy food and conversation. Here is the menu this week. https://mgdining.com/holton-arms/menus/

So give me a break on the "must eat on the floor to get a high math class" crap.

Well, that's odd. But I suppose for $52,970+, you want to feel like you're getting your money's worth.

+1 how dumb to compare an expensive private with a large public school system with 35% FARMs rate.

That’s the base price. They have lots of extra fees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Do kids really sit on the floor to eat??!?

Where are the cafeteria tables?

The cafeteria might have space for like 200 kids, if that. What is a school of 2000 going to do, have 10 lunches? Of course kids eat elsewhere. I ate sitting on the floor in the hallway with my friends at RMHS 20 years ago, with one open lunch for everyone, and we thought it was absolutely fine.

Eww that is nasty af

I guess large overcrowding schools are no big deal here. We had grade level lunches and there were tables for everyone. Definitely looking into private schools for middle and high school.

That’s rich. Good luck with that. But, if you want the slow math track and dumb down your kids, private is the way to go.

Give me a break on the bashing of private schools. My DD graduated Holton taking multivariable calculus as a senior. She also knew how to write papers, won the state chemathon and got a huge scholarship to her top college.

She had breakfast, lunch, and snacks served at Holton as they were not allowed to bring food from home in. They had enough tables/chairs in the cafe or courtyard so the girls could sit and eat. And since they didn't allow cell phones in school, it was a nice environment with healthy food and conversation. Here is the menu this week. https://mgdining.com/holton-arms/menus/

So give me a break on the "must eat on the floor to get a high math class" crap.

Kids don’t need breakfast and snacks at school. No one care what they feeds the kids. I’d rather pack my kids lunch. Our kids can write papers and mine will still be a year ahead of yours in math. But we don’t need financial aid as we saved for college. Too bad you did notbbb

Are you five?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do kids really sit on the floor to eat??!?

Where are the cafeteria tables?

The cafeteria might have space for like 200 kids, if that. What is a school of 2000 going to do, have 10 lunches? Of course kids eat elsewhere. I ate sitting on the floor in the hallway with my friends at RMHS 20 years ago, with one open lunch for everyone, and we thought it was absolutely fine.

Eww that is nasty af

I guess large overcrowding schools are no big deal here. We had grade level lunches and there were tables for everyone. Definitely looking into private schools for middle and high school.

That’s rich. Good luck with that. But, if you want the slow math track and dumb down your kids, private is the way to go.

What makes you believe private schools have slow math tracks?

To feel better knowing that they paid a crap ton of money in real estate to go to a public school that is sub par. Even if you are in excelerated in math, there is little to no writing and no real good teaching at MCPS. And before you bash, yes my kids go here and yes we have moved twice. From Montgomery County, PA to Howard County PA to here. And so far MCPS is by far the worst of the public schools. And yes, the overfilling of kids and lack of nutrition for them is appalling.

Not our experience. Lots of writing.

Name your schools that has lots of writing in K-12? And don't say AP classes in 10-12th grade. That doesn't count.

Our middle school had it. It’s not a school you’d send your kids to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do kids really sit on the floor to eat??!?

Where are the cafeteria tables?

The cafeteria might have space for like 200 kids, if that. What is a school of 2000 going to do, have 10 lunches? Of course kids eat elsewhere. I ate sitting on the floor in the hallway with my friends at RMHS 20 years ago, with one open lunch for everyone, and we thought it was absolutely fine.

Eww that is nasty af

I guess large overcrowding schools are no big deal here. We had grade level lunches and there were tables for everyone. Definitely looking into private schools for middle and high school.

That’s rich. Good luck with that. But, if you want the slow math track and dumb down your kids, private is the way to go.

Give me a break on the bashing of private schools. My DD graduated Holton taking multivariable calculus as a senior. She also knew how to write papers, won the state chemathon and got a huge scholarship to her top college.

She had breakfast, lunch, and snacks served at Holton as they were not allowed to bring food from home in. They had enough tables/chairs in the cafe or courtyard so the girls could sit and eat. And since they didn't allow cell phones in school, it was a nice environment with healthy food and conversation. Here is the menu this week. https://mgdining.com/holton-arms/menus/

So give me a break on the "must eat on the floor to get a high math class" crap.

Kids don’t need breakfast and snacks at school. No one care what they feeds the kids. I’d rather pack my kids lunch. Our kids can write papers and mine will still be a year ahead of yours in math. But we don’t need financial aid as we saved for college. Too bad you did notbbb

Are you five?

Clearly you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do kids really sit on the floor to eat??!?

Where are the cafeteria tables?

The cafeteria might have space for like 200 kids, if that. What is a school of 2000 going to do, have 10 lunches? Of course kids eat elsewhere. I ate sitting on the floor in the hallway with my friends at RMHS 20 years ago, with one open lunch for everyone, and we thought it was absolutely fine.

Eww that is nasty af

I guess large overcrowding schools are no big deal here. We had grade level lunches and there were tables for everyone. Definitely looking into private schools for middle and high school.

That’s rich. Good luck with that. But, if you want the slow math track and dumb down your kids, private is the way to go.

Give me a break on the bashing of private schools. My DD graduated Holton taking multivariable calculus as a senior. She also knew how to write papers, won the state chemathon and got a huge scholarship to her top college.

She had breakfast, lunch, and snacks served at Holton as they were not allowed to bring food from home in. They had enough tables/chairs in the cafe or courtyard so the girls could sit and eat. And since they didn't allow cell phones in school, it was a nice environment with healthy food and conversation. Here is the menu this week. https://mgdining.com/holton-arms/menus/

So give me a break on the "must eat on the floor to get a high math class" crap.

How is a burger and fries that great? Especially for what they charge?

As a public school parent, I have no reason to fight this, but even at full price tuition, getting warm breakfast, lunch, snacks, and uniforms would save me A LOT of money, headaches, and time. I absolutely hate shopping and packing lunches as a working mom and I know food is going to waste. It is a lot of money and wasted time each week. And then the clothes. I would do anything for public school to have uniforms.

And I was just curious about the menus so I googled Holton lunches and this came up. So I am guessing you can slam them for one burger options but the menus looks amazing and this is article kinda shows how important it is to the school. https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/02/29/washington-dc-cafeteria-meals-school-lunches-photos/

Look at the Holton uniforms. The girls skirts are so short it defeats the purpose of them and many pictures the girls look very messy. I would not want uniforms

as a public school parent, I would love school uniforms, though I know my kids would hate it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do kids really sit on the floor to eat??!?

Where are the cafeteria tables?

The cafeteria might have space for like 200 kids, if that. What is a school of 2000 going to do, have 10 lunches? Of course kids eat elsewhere. I ate sitting on the floor in the hallway with my friends at RMHS 20 years ago, with one open lunch for everyone, and we thought it was absolutely fine.

Eww that is nasty af

I guess large overcrowding schools are no big deal here. We had grade level lunches and there were tables for everyone. Definitely looking into private schools for middle and high school.

That’s rich. Good luck with that. But, if you want the slow math track and dumb down your kids, private is the way to go.

Give me a break on the bashing of private schools. My DD graduated Holton taking multivariable calculus as a senior. She also knew how to write papers, won the state chemathon and got a huge scholarship to her top college.

She had breakfast, lunch, and snacks served at Holton as they were not allowed to bring food from home in. They had enough tables/chairs in the cafe or courtyard so the girls could sit and eat. And since they didn't allow cell phones in school, it was a nice environment with healthy food and conversation. Here is the menu this week. https://mgdining.com/holton-arms/menus/

So give me a break on the "must eat on the floor to get a high math class" crap.

How is a burger and fries that great? Especially for what they charge?

As a public school parent, I have no reason to fight this, but even at full price tuition, getting warm breakfast, lunch, snacks, and uniforms would save me A LOT of money, headaches, and time. I absolutely hate shopping and packing lunches as a working mom and I know food is going to waste. It is a lot of money and wasted time each week. And then the clothes. I would do anything for public school to have uniforms.

And I was just curious about the menus so I googled Holton lunches and this came up. So I am guessing you can slam them for one burger options but the menus looks amazing and this is article kinda shows how important it is to the school. https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/02/29/washington-dc-cafeteria-meals-school-lunches-photos/

Look at the Holton uniforms. The girls skirts are so short it defeats the purpose of them and many pictures the girls look very messy. I would not want uniforms

What is the purpose of skirts?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do kids really sit on the floor to eat??!?

Where are the cafeteria tables?

The cafeteria might have space for like 200 kids, if that. What is a school of 2000 going to do, have 10 lunches? Of course kids eat elsewhere. I ate sitting on the floor in the hallway with my friends at RMHS 20 years ago, with one open lunch for everyone, and we thought it was absolutely fine.

Eww that is nasty af

I guess large overcrowding schools are no big deal here. We had grade level lunches and there were tables for everyone. Definitely looking into private schools for middle and high school.

That’s rich. Good luck with that. But, if you want the slow math track and dumb down your kids, private is the way to go.

Give me a break on the bashing of private schools. My DD graduated Holton taking multivariable calculus as a senior. She also knew how to write papers, won the state chemathon and got a huge scholarship to her top college.

She had breakfast, lunch, and snacks served at Holton as they were not allowed to bring food from home in. They had enough tables/chairs in the cafe or courtyard so the girls could sit and eat. And since they didn't allow cell phones in school, it was a nice environment with healthy food and conversation. Here is the menu this week. https://mgdining.com/holton-arms/menus/

So give me a break on the "must eat on the floor to get a high math class" crap.

How is a burger and fries that great? Especially for what they charge?

As a public school parent, I have no reason to fight this, but even at full price tuition, getting warm breakfast, lunch, snacks, and uniforms would save me A LOT of money, headaches, and time. I absolutely hate shopping and packing lunches as a working mom and I know food is going to waste. It is a lot of money and wasted time each week. And then the clothes. I would do anything for public school to have uniforms.

And I was just curious about the menus so I googled Holton lunches and this came up. So I am guessing you can slam them for one burger options but the menus looks amazing and this is article kinda shows how important it is to the school. https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/02/29/washington-dc-cafeteria-meals-school-lunches-photos/

Look at the Holton uniforms. The girls skirts are so short it defeats the purpose of them and many pictures the girls look very messy. I would not want uniforms

They all wear sports shorts or VB shorts under their skirts so I would consider them skorts. In the winter they wear leggings under them. The point isn't to look prim and proper. The point is, there isn't a daily struggle with clothes and there isn't a crap ton of money being spent on them and it decreases laundry every week. It puts kids on a level playing field for the school day. I would be more concerned if a private school had them all dolled up, posh bags, posh shoes, etc... Private school kids may look a little sloppy, but at least it isn't pajama pants and sports bra.

[Anonymous]

Einstein High School has a closed campus rule but the principal, Mark Brown, has stated that he will not enforce the rule.
As someone who lives near the school, I can tell you our neighborhood has been negatively affected.
Besides picking up trash every school day, I have photos of fights, drug use, drug deals and one student displaying a knife! I have passed these photos on to the principal and the BOE. Neither has done anything.
There are also those students roaming around after lunchtime and throughout the day. Einstein is a magnet school and very few, if any, of these kids live in the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Einstein High School has a closed campus rule but the principal, Mark Brown, has stated that he will not enforce the rule.
As someone who lives near the school, I can tell you our neighborhood has been negatively affected.
Besides picking up trash every school day, I have photos of fights, drug use, drug deals and one student displaying a knife! I have passed these photos on to the principal and the BOE. Neither has done anything.
There are also those students roaming around after lunchtime and throughout the day. Einstein is a magnet school and very few, if any, of these kids live in the neighborhood.

I don't understand why MCPS gives principals this kind of latitude.

The truth is, Open Lunch has NEVER worked. Yes, there are some kids who do what they're supposed to do but the reality is, there will always be that minority of kids who abuse the privilege and ruin it for everybody. It was that way in '90s and it remains that way now.

So closed lunch IS the best way forward. But MCPS should look to partner with food vendors to have them do pop-ups to let kids buy the food INSIDE the school that they would buy outside. We have to stop pouring the money we pour into cafeteria food that the kids hate because it's tasteless, spoiled, or undesirable for whatever reasons. It's time for MCPS to innovate. Maybe MCPS should outsource cafeteria operations to a vendor completely. But the existing model isn't working for kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason, the schools don't have larger courtyards or more tables outside then. That could not possibly cost that much to offer outside seating so kids don't have to sit in hallways.

And I think eating on the floor where kids walk in and out of the bathrooms, pee on the floor and walk out is not the best place to put your food down and eat it. And I can't imagine the pest issues with food/trash all over the place.

OMG! Sit outside with the bugs! And it's hot/cold out there! Eww!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do kids really sit on the floor to eat??!?

Where are the cafeteria tables?

The cafeteria might have space for like 200 kids, if that. What is a school of 2000 going to do, have 10 lunches? Of course kids eat elsewhere. I ate sitting on the floor in the hallway with my friends at RMHS 20 years ago, with one open lunch for everyone, and we thought it was absolutely fine.

Eww that is nasty af

I guess large overcrowding schools are no big deal here. We had grade level lunches and there were tables for everyone. Definitely looking into private schools for middle and high school.

That’s rich. Good luck with that. But, if you want the slow math track and dumb down your kids, private is the way to go.

Give me a break on the bashing of private schools. My DD graduated Holton taking multivariable calculus as a senior. She also knew how to write papers, won the state chemathon and got a huge scholarship to her top college.

She had breakfast, lunch, and snacks served at Holton as they were not allowed to bring food from home in. They had enough tables/chairs in the cafe or courtyard so the girls could sit and eat. And since they didn't allow cell phones in school, it was a nice environment with healthy food and conversation. Here is the menu this week. https://mgdining.com/holton-arms/menus/

So give me a break on the "must eat on the floor to get a high math class" crap.

thanks for gracing us with your presence.

[Anonymous]

I have many photos that show why an open campus at lunchtime is a safety issue.
I see 70 plus kids walk by and they all come back with their 7- 11 food and this is just by my house. The students leave in other directions, too.
Einstein has no idea who and how many leave and worse yet, they have no idea who's coming back into the building. Per the principal, there are no checks in place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have many photos that show why an open campus at lunchtime is a safety issue.
I see 70 plus kids walk by and they all come back with their 7- 11 food and this is just by my house. The students leave in other directions, too.
Einstein has no idea who and how many leave and worse yet, they have no idea who's coming back into the building. Per the principal, there are no checks in place.

We need to get the kids used to a prison environment. Really work that school to prison pipeline!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have many photos that show why an open campus at lunchtime is a safety issue.
I see 70 plus kids walk by and they all come back with their 7- 11 food and this is just by my house. The students leave in other directions, too.
Einstein has no idea who and how many leave and worse yet, they have no idea who's coming back into the building. Per the principal, there are no checks in place.

We need to get the kids used to a prison environment. Really work that school to prison pipeline!

Keeping kids in school is not equivalent to prison. If you like, just ask the adolescents locked up in juvie or jail if they think it’s the same thing.

Your social justice ideals are warped. Boundaries and accountability are good for children.