DC is Losing Jobs to Virginia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Publics are trash everywhere. Nova is a unplanned public hardscrabble. Md has all the privates and country clubs separated by Maryland’s Potomac river.

+1

We moved to moco for easy access to the privates. Covid exposed the NOVA public rot.

Can’t really get too excited about the idea of moving to MoCo for stuffy privates and then paying higher taxes all to underwrite MCPS’s expenditures of legal fees to defend allegations of sexual harassment and probe just how incompetent McKnight has been as superintendent.

Enjoy! Meanwhile we’ll take the greater job growth and equity appreciation across the river.

And UMD as your only real in-state public university—instead of UVA, William&Mary, VA Tech, JMU, GMU etc

B1G ten UMD, Annapolis, Georgetown and Hopkins all within a 30 mile radius is a vastly superior educational community. UMD alone has more national championships and alum have more nobels, pulitzers, emmys, academy awards and fields medals than all the Va colleges put together.

Completely unsubstantiated claim.

Emmys and Academy awards — fitting with the histrionics of most of Maryland’s population.

[Anonymous]

I work in IT and we made this calculation when we moved to NoVa from DC 10 years ago. My spouse works in DC and we could have gone to VA or MD - but we knew my future opportunities would be in VA.

There is a lot to like about MD. It’s a better fit for us politically and it’s closer to visit family, but work commute and opportunities were more important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CityCast DC podcast just had an episode with a Washington Business Journal reporter titled “DC is Losing Jobs to Virginia”
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1OKuIhD56t2RhcsBN0tuzS?si=Hw2KpTP0RNqkEqZXueQepA

Basic premise is that the DC Metro area is doing well but the recent job growth is largely tilted towards VA, with DC and MD not seeing the same booming job growth.

Reporter says he sees this being a long term trend. Thoughts on how this will impact residential real estate in the area?

Are there any stats to back this up?.

Reported in April 2023: “Virginia has gained 99,900 jobs in the past year, a job growth rate of 2.5%, outpacing Maryland’s annual job growth rate of 1.3%. Maryland has gained 35,900 jobs in the past year.”

With Amazon doing RTO that’s at least a few thousand more jobs in VA than in the past, and that’s just one company.

It's primarily in the south. Everyone loves to bring up amazon, but that's not panning out how it was originally promised.

https://roanoke.org/2023/07/06/roanoke-region-boasts-highest-job-growth-rates-in-30-years-outperforming-state-and-most-virginia-metros/

Have you been to Pentagon City recently? It’s a pretty noticeable transformation that’s not even done yet, and in the next few years the new Virginia Tech campus in Potomac Yard will bring more jobs and residents.

Now just build a moat around Pentagon City Mall to keep out the DC and Maryland trash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CityCast DC podcast just had an episode with a Washington Business Journal reporter titled “DC is Losing Jobs to Virginia”
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1OKuIhD56t2RhcsBN0tuzS?si=Hw2KpTP0RNqkEqZXueQepA

Basic premise is that the DC Metro area is doing well but the recent job growth is largely tilted towards VA, with DC and MD not seeing the same booming job growth.

Reporter says he sees this being a long term trend. Thoughts on how this will impact residential real estate in the area?

Are there any stats to back this up?.

Reported in April 2023: “Virginia has gained 99,900 jobs in the past year, a job growth rate of 2.5%, outpacing Maryland’s annual job growth rate of 1.3%. Maryland has gained 35,900 jobs in the past year.”

With Amazon doing RTO that’s at least a few thousand more jobs in VA than in the past, and that’s just one company.

It's primarily in the south. Everyone loves to bring up amazon, but that's not panning out how it was originally promised.

https://roanoke.org/2023/07/06/roanoke-region-boasts-highest-job-growth-rates-in-30-years-outperforming-state-and-most-virginia-metros/

Have you been to Pentagon City recently? It’s a pretty noticeable transformation that’s not even done yet, and in the next few years the new Virginia Tech campus in Potomac Yard will bring more jobs and residents.

Now just build a moat around Pentagon City Mall to keep out the DC and Maryland trash.

+1. They are 🗑️, as the DC and MD leaning DCUMorons exemplify.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CityCast DC podcast just had an episode with a Washington Business Journal reporter titled “DC is Losing Jobs to Virginia”
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1OKuIhD56t2RhcsBN0tuzS?si=Hw2KpTP0RNqkEqZXueQepA

Basic premise is that the DC Metro area is doing well but the recent job growth is largely tilted towards VA, with DC and MD not seeing the same booming job growth.

Reporter says he sees this being a long term trend. Thoughts on how this will impact residential real estate in the area?

Are there any stats to back this up?.

Reported in April 2023: “Virginia has gained 99,900 jobs in the past year, a job growth rate of 2.5%, outpacing Maryland’s annual job growth rate of 1.3%. Maryland has gained 35,900 jobs in the past year.”

With Amazon doing RTO that’s at least a few thousand more jobs in VA than in the past, and that’s just one company.

It's primarily in the south. Everyone loves to bring up amazon, but that's not panning out how it was originally promised.

https://roanoke.org/2023/07/06/roanoke-region-boasts-highest-job-growth-rates-in-30-years-outperforming-state-and-most-virginia-metros/

Have you been to Pentagon City recently? It’s a pretty noticeable transformation that’s not even done yet, and in the next few years the new Virginia Tech campus in Potomac Yard will bring more jobs and residents.

That's what you have been saying for the past 2 decades. But Maryland is still strong. The richest state in the country (by HHI), and the best suburbs to live in the DMV are mostly on the MD side. Try harder.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/search/best-suburbs/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Publics are trash everywhere. Nova is a unplanned public hardscrabble. Md has all the privates and country clubs separated by Maryland’s Potomac river.

+1

We moved to moco for easy access to the privates. Covid exposed the NOVA public rot.

Can’t really get too excited about the idea of moving to MoCo for stuffy privates and then paying higher taxes all to underwrite MCPS’s expenditures of legal fees to defend allegations of sexual harassment and probe just how incompetent McKnight has been as superintendent.

Enjoy! Meanwhile we’ll take the greater job growth and equity appreciation across the river.

And UMD as your only real in-state public university—instead of UVA, William&Mary, VA Tech, JMU, GMU etc

B1G ten UMD, Annapolis, Georgetown and Hopkins all within a 30 mile radius is a vastly superior educational community. UMD alone has more national championships and alum have more nobels, pulitzers, emmys, academy awards and fields medals than all the Va colleges put together.

Completely unsubstantiated claim.

Emmys and Academy awards — fitting with the histrionics of most of Maryland’s population.

Nobels, National Championships, Fields Medals and Pulitzers as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CityCast DC podcast just had an episode with a Washington Business Journal reporter titled “DC is Losing Jobs to Virginia”
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1OKuIhD56t2RhcsBN0tuzS?si=Hw2KpTP0RNqkEqZXueQepA

Basic premise is that the DC Metro area is doing well but the recent job growth is largely tilted towards VA, with DC and MD not seeing the same booming job growth.

Reporter says he sees this being a long term trend. Thoughts on how this will impact residential real estate in the area?

Are there any stats to back this up?.

Reported in April 2023: “Virginia has gained 99,900 jobs in the past year, a job growth rate of 2.5%, outpacing Maryland’s annual job growth rate of 1.3%. Maryland has gained 35,900 jobs in the past year.”

With Amazon doing RTO that’s at least a few thousand more jobs in VA than in the past, and that’s just one company.

It's primarily in the south. Everyone loves to bring up amazon, but that's not panning out how it was originally promised.

https://roanoke.org/2023/07/06/roanoke-region-boasts-highest-job-growth-rates-in-30-years-outperforming-state-and-most-virginia-metros/

Have you been to Pentagon City recently? It’s a pretty noticeable transformation that’s not even done yet, and in the next few years the new Virginia Tech campus in Potomac Yard will bring more jobs and residents.

That's what you have been saying for the past 2 decades. But Maryland is still strong. The richest state in the country (by HHI), and the best suburbs to live in the DMV are mostly on the MD side. Try harder.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/search/best-suburbs/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

lol, the first three results are made up places. Why are people too embarrassed to say they live in Rockville?

[Anonymous]

Virginia is rightly defensive and paranoid. There is no reason for tourists to cross the river owned by DC and Maryland. Except to go to the hardscrabble polluting airports.

[Anonymous]

Job growth is not an issue in MoCo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/09/montgomery-county-unemployment-low/

Also, this: "Across the D.C. region, only Arlington County and Fairfax County had a higher office vacancy rate than Montgomery over the last quarter"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work in IT and we made this calculation when we moved to NoVa from DC 10 years ago. My spouse works in DC and we could have gone to VA or MD - but we knew my future opportunities would be in VA.

There is a lot to like about MD. It’s a better fit for us politically and it’s closer to visit family, but work commute and opportunities were more important.

Here’s the first real response. I made the same move from DC to NoVA for the same reason. It’s not that I dislike MD; it’s that the vast majority of future IT/Tech jobs for me will be in NoVA so I chose it over MD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The economies are somewhat different, Nova has high-tech and data centers, Montgomery has medical research. Metro locations are doing ok, non-metro locations are doing worse. Values aren’t that different between same-distance neighborhoods in relation to DC.

PGCo has always lagged, and doesn’t have as many big employers, except for UMD. You can’t compare the overall states, the demographics are different.

PG county is richer than 21 Virginia counties.

That’s why Md is the richest state in the USA

https://mensgear.net/richest-states-us/#:~:text=1-,Maryland%20–%20%2490%2C203,to%20the%20nation's%20overall%20progress.

Most of the us is poor. This means nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CityCast DC podcast just had an episode with a Washington Business Journal reporter titled “DC is Losing Jobs to Virginia”
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1OKuIhD56t2RhcsBN0tuzS?si=Hw2KpTP0RNqkEqZXueQepA

Basic premise is that the DC Metro area is doing well but the recent job growth is largely tilted towards VA, with DC and MD not seeing the same booming job growth.

Reporter says he sees this being a long term trend. Thoughts on how this will impact residential real estate in the area?

Are there any stats to back this up?.

Reported in April 2023: “Virginia has gained 99,900 jobs in the past year, a job growth rate of 2.5%, outpacing Maryland’s annual job growth rate of 1.3%. Maryland has gained 35,900 jobs in the past year.”

With Amazon doing RTO that’s at least a few thousand more jobs in VA than in the past, and that’s just one company.

It's primarily in the south. Everyone loves to bring up amazon, but that's not panning out how it was originally promised.

https://roanoke.org/2023/07/06/roanoke-region-boasts-highest-job-growth-rates-in-30-years-outperforming-state-and-most-virginia-metros/

Have you been to Pentagon City recently? It’s a pretty noticeable transformation that’s not even done yet, and in the next few years the new Virginia Tech campus in Potomac Yard will bring more jobs and residents.

That's what you have been saying for the past 2 decades. But Maryland is still strong. The richest state in the country (by HHI), and the best suburbs to live in the DMV are mostly on the MD side. Try harder.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/search/best-suburbs/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

lol, the first three results are made up places. Why are people too embarrassed to say they live in Rockville?

dp.. regardless, that post still stands.

-Rockville resident

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Publics are trash everywhere. Nova is a unplanned public hardscrabble. Md has all the privates and country clubs separated by Maryland’s Potomac river.

+1

We moved to moco for easy access to the privates. Covid exposed the NOVA public rot.

Can’t really get too excited about the idea of moving to MoCo for stuffy privates and then paying higher taxes all to underwrite MCPS’s expenditures of legal fees to defend allegations of sexual harassment and probe just how incompetent McKnight has been as superintendent.

Enjoy! Meanwhile we’ll take the greater job growth and equity appreciation across the river.

And UMD as your only real in-state public university—instead of UVA, William&Mary, VA Tech, JMU, GMU etc

because VA is bigger. CA has even more great in state options than Va. Why? Because CA is bigger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Virginia is rightly defensive and paranoid. There is no reason for tourists to cross the river owned by DC and Maryland. Except to go to the hardscrabble polluting airports.

Where do tourists go in moco? Rio? DTSS?

[Anonymous]

This Washington Post interview makes an interesting point: “When large headquarters move to the metropolitan area, they almost never consider Maryland and D.C.,” said Yesim Sayin Taylor, executive director of the D.C. Policy Center. “They invariably locate in Northern Virginia, and that’s now snowballing. The Dulles corridor has become a huge attraction to technology companies.”