Top 20 Non-Ivy League Schools - Lets Debate
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Anonymous
+1 So obvious. |
Anonymous
+2 |
Anonymous
Agree!! This is the right listing! |
Anonymous
No, there isn't. grow up |
Anonymous
This is actually pretty damn accurate based on overall rankings and rep. I do believe Chicago on down is actually like a group 2A or 1 minus because HYPSM are the top. We did this some time back and there was a long thread on it. |
Anonymous
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Was PP and I meant this is really accurate honestly.
First group Harvard Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Stanford University Yale Princeton University of Chicago Upenn Johns Hopkins University California Institute of Technology Duke University Northwestern University Second Group Columbia Dartmouth Vanderbilt University Brown Rice University Cornell Washington University in St. Louis Emory University Williams Amherst Notre Dame Georgetown University UC Berkeley Pomona Third Group Swarthmore Wellesley UCLA Carnegie Melon University New York University Bowdoin Tufts University of Southern California University of Virginia Barnard The University of Michigan Ann-Arbor Honorable mentions: UNC-Chapel Hill, Boston College, Haverford, Middlebury, Georgia Tech |
Anonymous
Funny thing is, if it were not in the Ivy Athletic Conference, it still wouldn't be on the list. |
Anonymous
If they were, maybe Rutgers could win a game or two. Cornell would be competitive in lacrosse but no other major sport. |
Anonymous
Hard maybe. No, notsomuch. |
Anonymous
I think that's only for CS. It's a one trick pony. Hence, no. Likewise, Caltech is also a one trick pony. It's STEM only. Hence, no. It's a notch below MIT and most ivies. |
Anonymous
But the great students at Cal Tech are brilliant people. My feeling is that the top category here is for colleges where kids with IQs over 180 can talk to someone. If you use that as the definition, Cal Tech belongs there. It’s a school that’s worth the money because it’s a special needs school for people who are to typical college students what typical college students are to Koko the gorilla. And, if that’s the boundary, Northwestern should go down a level. It’s a useful place full of bright people, but it’s about as intellectual as an old issue of People Magazine. |
Anonymous
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GDS is by far the best non-Ivy. |
Anonymous
I can't find much issue with this and I like that LACs are added. |
Anonymous
+1 I can't believe the obsession with lists. And no, those three do not belong on that list. |
Anonymous
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Swarthmore should be grouped with Williams and Amherst. All three should probably be in your group 2. Pomona could stay too but I'd probably swap it and Swarthmore. Pomona is a close call. Amherst, Williams, and Swarthmore are the only LACs USNWR has ever ranked #1 multiple times and none has ever been lower than 4 (Pomona has been 7 and 8 at different points though it has been on the rise, especially since it is the best western LAC).
I'd add a group 0 at the top that is just Harvard and Stanford. Their undergrad and grad programs are excellent in pretty much every department and school, which isn't the case with even Yale and MIT. Group 1 should just be Yale, MIT, Princeton, and Caltech. Move the rest of group 1 to group 2. |