Top 20 Non-Ivy League Schools - Lets Debate

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First the Top 10.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis

The next 10.
University of Notre Dame
UC Berkeley
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
Emory University
Georgetown University
New York University

University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Virginia


Did I miss any worthy top 20 Non-Ivy League Schools?


Bolded schools don't belong there. No tiers. Schools on your bottom 10 easily better than some of your top 10

Umich boosters are annoying
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First the Top 10.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis

The next 10.
University of Notre Dame
UC Berkeley
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
Emory University
Georgetown University
New York University

University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Virginia


Did I miss any worthy top 20 Non-Ivy League Schools?


Bolded schools don't belong there. No tiers. Schools on your bottom 10 easily better than some of your top 10


LOL serious ND hater here. It is in the top 20 already (including the ivies) and has been there for decades.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First the Top 10.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis

The next 10.
University of Notre Dame
UC Berkeley
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
Emory University
Georgetown University
New York University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Virginia

Did I miss any worthy top 20 Non-Ivy League Schools?

First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University

Second Group
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
UC Berkeley

Third Group
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
New York University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Virginia



This makes more sense Vandy Rice Washu aren't the same level as the others in the first group. And Umich, UVA etc are the same level as those in the second grouping.
Anonymous
First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Carnegie Melon University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
UC Berkeley

Second Group
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Wake Forest
William & Mary
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of Texas - Austin
Tufts
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Carnegie Melon University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
UC Berkeley

Second Group
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Wake Forest
William & Mary
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of Texas - Austin
Tufts

No, Wake Forest. UT Austin. You're delusional
Anonymous

This is basically T25

Duh
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think NYU, UVA and USC belong to this list.


Lol saw this coming. Sooo much UVA jealousy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First the Top 10.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis

The next 10.
University of Notre Dame
UC Berkeley
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
Emory University
Georgetown University
New York University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Virginia

Did I miss any worthy top 20 Non-Ivy League Schools?

First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University

Second Group
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
UC Berkeley

Third Group
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
New York University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Virginia



If you add ivys and LAC's it looks like

First group
Harvard
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
Yale
Princeton
University of Chicago
Upenn
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University

Second Group

Columbia
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt University
Brown
Rice University
Cornell
Washington University in St. Louis
Emory University
Williams
Amherst
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
UC Berkeley
Pomona

Third Group

Swarthmore
Wellesley
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
New York University
Bowdoin
Tufts
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Barnard
The University of Michigan Ann-Arbor

Honorable mentions: UNC-Chapel Hill, Boston College, Haverford, Middlebury, Georgia Tech

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Surprised that no one has challenged Cornell's standing in this matter.

Cornell is an Ivy Technically


I know. I was just trying to inject some levity into the discussion. I love Cornell. Absolutely among the best schools in the country, but Cornell belongs in the Big Ten (in large part due to the School of Agriculture).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First the Top 10.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis

The next 10.
University of Notre Dame
UC Berkeley
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
Emory University
Georgetown University
New York University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Virginia

Did I miss any worthy top 20 Non-Ivy League Schools?

First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University

Second Group
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
UC Berkeley

Third Group
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
New York University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Virginia



If you add ivys and LAC's it looks like

First group
Harvard
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
Yale
Princeton
University of Chicago
Upenn
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University

Second Group

Columbia
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt University
Brown
Rice University
Cornell
Washington University in St. Louis
Emory University
Williams
Amherst
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
UC Berkeley
Pomona

Third Group

Swarthmore
Wellesley
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
New York University
Bowdoin
Tufts
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Barnard
The University of Michigan Ann-Arbor

Honorable mentions: UNC-Chapel Hill, Boston College, Haverford, Middlebury, Georgia Tech


Yea this is it!
Anonymous
Georgetown is missing, OP. The only school that REQUIRES all standardized tests ever sat for (no superscoring, not test optional). It is very hard to get into and the percentages listed would be even lower for admits % because they aren't on the common app and requiring test scores also limits the # of students applying. It is much harder to get into than the 11%.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is missing, OP. The only school that REQUIRES all standardized tests ever sat for (no superscoring, not test optional). It is very hard to get into and the percentages listed would be even lower for admits % because they aren't on the common app and requiring test scores also limits the # of students applying. It is much harder to get into than the 11%.


^from the top 10 non-Ivy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is missing, OP. The only school that REQUIRES all standardized tests ever sat for (no superscoring, not test optional). It is very hard to get into and the percentages listed would be even lower for admits % because they aren't on the common app and requiring test scores also limits the # of students applying. It is much harder to get into than the 11%.


^from the top 10 non-Ivy

They're in the second group
Anonymous
What is the point of this exercise? What expertise is everyone offering to defend his or her position?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First the Top 10.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis

The next 10.
University of Notre Dame
UC Berkeley
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
Emory University
Georgetown University
New York University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Virginia

Did I miss any worthy top 20 Non-Ivy League Schools?

First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University

Second Group
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
UC Berkeley

Third Group
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
New York University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Virginia



If you add ivys and LAC's it looks like

First group
Harvard
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Stanford University
Yale
Princeton
University of Chicago
Upenn
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Duke University
Northwestern University

Second Group

Columbia
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt University
Brown
Rice University
Cornell
Washington University in St. Louis
Emory University
Williams
Amherst
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
UC Berkeley
Pomona

Third Group

Swarthmore
Wellesley
UCLA
Carnegie Melon University
New York University
Bowdoin
Tufts
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Barnard
The University of Michigan Ann-Arbor

Honorable mentions: UNC-Chapel Hill, Boston College, Haverford, Middlebury, Georgia Tech


Move Columbia up to the first group.
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