Umich boosters are annoying |
LOL serious ND hater here. It is in the top 20 already (including the ivies) and has been there for decades. |
This makes more sense Vandy Rice Washu aren't the same level as the others in the first group. And Umich, UVA etc are the same level as those in the second grouping. |
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First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) University of Chicago Johns Hopkins University California Institute of Technology Vanderbilt University Rice University Washington University in St. Louis Carnegie Melon University University of Michigan Ann-Arbor UC Berkeley Second Group Emory University Notre Dame Georgetown University University of Southern California University of Virginia Wake Forest William & Mary University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill University of Texas - Austin Tufts |
No, Wake Forest. UT Austin. You're delusional |
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This is basically T25 Duh |
Lol saw this coming. Sooo much UVA jealousy. |
If you add ivys and LAC's it looks like First group Harvard Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Stanford University Yale Princeton University of Chicago Upenn Johns Hopkins University California Institute of Technology Duke University Northwestern University Second Group Columbia Dartmouth Vanderbilt University Brown Rice University Cornell Washington University in St. Louis Emory University Williams Amherst Notre Dame Georgetown University UC Berkeley Pomona Third Group Swarthmore Wellesley UCLA Carnegie Melon University New York University Bowdoin Tufts University of Southern California University of Virginia Barnard The University of Michigan Ann-Arbor Honorable mentions: UNC-Chapel Hill, Boston College, Haverford, Middlebury, Georgia Tech |
I know. I was just trying to inject some levity into the discussion. I love Cornell. Absolutely among the best schools in the country, but Cornell belongs in the Big Ten (in large part due to the School of Agriculture). |
Yea this is it! |
| Georgetown is missing, OP. The only school that REQUIRES all standardized tests ever sat for (no superscoring, not test optional). It is very hard to get into and the percentages listed would be even lower for admits % because they aren't on the common app and requiring test scores also limits the # of students applying. It is much harder to get into than the 11%. |
^from the top 10 non-Ivy |
They're in the second group |
| What is the point of this exercise? What expertise is everyone offering to defend his or her position? |
Move Columbia up to the first group. |