Top 20 Non-Ivy League Schools - Lets Debate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Carnegie Melon University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
UC Berkeley

Second Group
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Wake Forest
William & Mary
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of Texas - Austin
Tufts

Did you forget UCLA?

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Carnegie Melon University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
UC Berkeley

Second Group
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Wake Forest
William & Mary
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of Texas - Austin
Tufts

Did you forget UCLA?

Heather Locklear went to UCLA so a hard no

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Carnegie Melon University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
UC Berkeley

Second Group
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Wake Forest
William & Mary
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of Texas - Austin
Tufts

Did you forget UCLA?

Heather Locklear went to UCLA so a hard no

I don't care for UCLA but what an idiotic statement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is missing, OP. The only school that REQUIRES all standardized tests ever sat for (no superscoring, not test optional). It is very hard to get into and the percentages listed would be even lower for admits % because they aren't on the common app and requiring test scores also limits the # of students applying. It is much harder to get into than the 11%.

^from the top 10 non-Ivy

They're in the second group

Their International Relations program is in the first group. It’s #1 in that field.

[Anonymous]

Teddy Kennedy & Jerry Falwell Jr. went to UVA Law, so if the Locklear Rule is invoked to reject UCLA, I’m going to insist UVA goes too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is missing, OP. The only school that REQUIRES all standardized tests ever sat for (no superscoring, not test optional). It is very hard to get into and the percentages listed would be even lower for admits % because they aren't on the common app and requiring test scores also limits the # of students applying. It is much harder to get into than the 11%.

^from the top 10 non-Ivy

They're in the second group

Their International Relations program is in the first group. It’s #1 in that field.

I mean, Dakota State is top in cybersecurity. Still not a top 25.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Carnegie Melon University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
UC Berkeley

Second Group
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Wake Forest
William & Mary
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of Texas - Austin
Tufts

not william & mary. Tufts is just hard to get into but not ranked anyway better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would put Carnegie Mellon on the same level as Caltech, maybe even higher. Ask any tech employer if you don't believe me.

I work in big tech and know CMU is well respected. It isn't thought of like Caltech, MIT, and Stanford though. It is just below Berkeley but above Georgia Tech (for CS and computer eng anyway) in how I see us hiring and discussing schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is missing, OP. The only school that REQUIRES all standardized tests ever sat for (no superscoring, not test optional). It is very hard to get into and the percentages listed would be even lower for admits % because they aren't on the common app and requiring test scores also limits the # of students applying. It is much harder to get into than the 11%.

^from the top 10 non-Ivy

They're in the second group

Their International Relations program is in the first group. It’s #1 in that field.

I mean, Dakota State is top in cybersecurity. Still not a top 25.

You are an idiot. Georgetown has long been considered in the same breath as the other top non-ivies--Duke, JHU, etc. We know there is a poster on here who starts entire threads bashing it every chance they get.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is missing, OP. The only school that REQUIRES all standardized tests ever sat for (no superscoring, not test optional). It is very hard to get into and the percentages listed would be even lower for admits % because they aren't on the common app and requiring test scores also limits the # of students applying. It is much harder to get into than the 11%.

^from the top 10 non-Ivy

They're in the second group

Their International Relations program is in the first group. It’s #1 in that field.

I mean, Dakota State is top in cybersecurity. Still not a top 25.

You are an idiot. Georgetown has long been considered in the same breath as the other top non-ivies--Duke, JHU, etc. We know there is a poster on here who starts entire threads bashing it every chance they get.

Dakota State has an 85% acceptance rate. Georgetown hovers around 10% and is actually lower given the self-selection of not being test-optional/requiring every score and not being on the common app.

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is missing, OP. The only school that REQUIRES all standardized tests ever sat for (no superscoring, not test optional). It is very hard to get into and the percentages listed would be even lower for admits % because they aren't on the common app and requiring test scores also limits the # of students applying. It is much harder to get into than the 11%.

^from the top 10 non-Ivy

They're in the second group

Their International Relations program is in the first group. It’s #1 in that field.

I mean, Dakota State is top in cybersecurity. Still not a top 25.

You are an idiot. Georgetown has long been considered in the same breath as the other top non-ivies--Duke, JHU, etc. We know there is a poster on here who starts entire threads bashing it every chance they get.

Dakota State has an 85% acceptance rate. Georgetown hovers around 10% and is actually lower given the self-selection of not being test-optional/requiring every score and not being on the common app.

My husband got into JHU and Duke and was rejected from Georgetown which was his first choice. Granted he was applying to Walsh.

[Anonymous]

When did NYU and Univ. Southern California started joining that group?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First group
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
California Institute of Technology
Vanderbilt University
Rice University
Washington University in St. Louis
Carnegie Melon University
University of Michigan Ann-Arbor
UC Berkeley

Second Group
Emory University
Notre Dame
Georgetown University
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Wake Forest
William & Mary
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of Texas - Austin
Tufts

Boston College is better than William and Mary and equal to Wake Forest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious OP, for what purpose is the listmaking?
For fun? For deciding where to apply?
All of these and many more as you know are fine schools (some arguably better than the Ivys not included).
I guess there's a thought to attend the "best" school you are accepted to, yet another is best fit - for so many things - major, culture, size etc, another is where one can afford.
The lists don't do much for me but curious what it does for you if you'd like to share

Everyone is obsessed IVY but for over 99 percent of people that will not happen.

The top tier non ivies Stanford, Chicago etc won’t happen for 99 percent of people either, so what’s the point?