Baltimore has turned apocalyptic. MoCo’s future?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You could always move to the five states with the highest age-adjusted death rates: Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Oklahoma, and West Virginia. Maybe the folks that are elected there are more to your liking.

when you say "deaths" do you mean by murder? Or just bad health etc.?

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Anonymous wrote:This is part of the Kia/Hyundai theft epidemic that’s happening all over the country. It is not specific to Baltimore.

This is becoming the new iT wAs wOrSe iN tHe 90s.

It was worse in the 80’s and 90’s.

Crime is still historically low.

The uptick is due to a pandemic, fentanyl and poverty. Those are not caused by “progressive “ policy.

It like the crack epidemic but it fentanyl , thanks China.

Violent crime is not historically low. There is far more nonviolent crime than violent, so when you lump them all together, you smooth out the rapid increase in violence that many jurisdictions are experiencing. Armed carjackings, for example, have gone through the roof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, the question is, what will you do about it? Certain areas of Baltimore have poverty and crime issues due to generations being held in poverty by government policies. During that whole time, MoCo seems fine. However, as poverty rates increase and gov does nothing to prevent it, crime will get worse everywhere, as it already has been happening.

Poverty is everywhere. Every country. How is a government going to prevent it? Minimum wage going up. Plenty of welfare benefits so no need to worry about food. Lots of jobs (thanks Biden!)
What more can anyone do???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I looked very carefully at investing in Baltimore real estate. Loved the vibe, the charm, the waterfront. Regretfully chose not to invest because of questionable flips, the rats, the crime.

While I was looking, I learned that blacks were lured to Baltimore with the promise of safe neighborhoods in which to raise their families. Instead, they found themselves living in a declining city with increasing crime. Very sad story.

It’s mostly people who make their own neighborhood safe (or not). Not sure how safety can be provided externally beyond the usual police presence. Private security? Defending people from their own neighbors?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, the question is, what will you do about it? Certain areas of Baltimore have poverty and crime issues due to generations being held in poverty by government policies. During that whole time, MoCo seems fine. However, as poverty rates increase and gov does nothing to prevent it, crime will get worse everywhere, as it already has been happening.

Poverty is everywhere. Every country. How is a government going to prevent it? Minimum wage going up. Plenty of welfare benefits so no need to worry about food. Lots of jobs (thanks Biden!)
What more can anyone do???

:shock:

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It's dishonest to look at death rates which include overdoses, accidents, and suicides? Overdoses, accidents, and suicides don't contribute to the apocalypse, just homicide does?

But ok, here are the age-adjusted homicide rates.

Mississippi: 23.7 per 100,000 people
Louisiana: 21.3
Alabama: 15.9
New Mexico: 14.3
South Carolina: 13.4
Missouri: 12.4
Illinois: 12.3
Maryland: 12.2
Tennessee: 12.2
Arkansas: 11.7
Georgia: 11.4

^^^And, of course, auto theft. Auto theft, the main indicator of the apocalypse! The four horsemen aren't bothering with horses anymore, they use stolen cars!

When people can no longer afford to register their vehicles in the city due to skyrocketing insurance premiums, see how well that goes for the working class who struggle every day to make ends meet. It is the apocalypse for every regular person as they’ll get more financially crushed.

Speaking of struggling, 30% of households in Baltimore do not have a personal vehicle available for use. The apocalypse for many regular people is buses that don't come when you need them, or that don't go where you need to go.

Part of 30% not owning IS because of outrageous insurance premiums already. And they’ll get worse now. And yea, they’ll be screwed because there are no good transportation alternatives available.

Insurance premiums, costs of buying a vehicle, costs of operating and maintaining a vehicle...

And there is no future tense about it. People in Baltimore need good public transportation now. Including the Baltimore Red Line, which Hogan killed, and then redistributed the money from Baltimore to road projects in rural counties with lots of Hogan voters.

Baltimore should stay in Baltimore

[Anonymous]

We need to find out where these cars are going. Somehow there’s a market for them that has increased. There needs to be a task force finding out if they are being shipped abroad and who is profiting from this crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to find out where these cars are going. Somehow there’s a market for them that has increased. There needs to be a task force finding out if they are being shipped abroad and who is profiting from this crime.

Chop shops?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to find out where these cars are going. Somehow there’s a market for them that has increased. There needs to be a task force finding out if they are being shipped abroad and who is profiting from this crime.

Many are shipped to South America. Baltimore has a port.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to find out where these cars are going. Somehow there’s a market for them that has increased. There needs to be a task force finding out if they are being shipped abroad and who is profiting from this crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/07/03/tdi-towing-catalytic-converter-pennsylvania/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ

[Anonymous]

The same is happening in many lower income inner city zones.

Go to the real estate forum and check out the thread about the woman who went to Philadelphia for the Taylor Swift concert and talked about how unsafe the one portion of Center City made her feel adn she had to abandon her airBnB because it was unsafe and there was no hotel in the area to check into because of the concert. There are many cities around the country that have had increases in crime and many neighborhoods are less safe. Baltimore may be one of the worst cases, but it is not unique by any stretch of the imagination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The same is happening in many lower income inner city zones.

Go to the real estate forum and check out the thread about the woman who went to Philadelphia for the Taylor Swift concert and talked about how unsafe the one portion of Center City made her feel adn she had to abandon her airBnB because it was unsafe and there was no hotel in the area to check into because of the concert. There are many cities around the country that have had increases in crime and many neighborhoods are less safe. Baltimore may be one of the worst cases, but it is not unique by any stretch of the imagination.

Can concur from here in Denver. We were recently the worst for auto theft in the country. It is pernicious and pervasive. All neighborhoods are being hit, every night. I know many people who have had their cars stolen. Our insurance is out of control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is part of the Kia/Hyundai theft epidemic that’s happening all over the country. It is not specific to Baltimore.

This is becoming the new iT wAs wOrSe iN tHe 90s.

It was worse in the 80’s and 90’s.

Crime is still historically low.

The uptick is due to a pandemic, fentanyl and poverty. Those are not caused by “progressive “ policy.

It like the crack epidemic but it fentanyl , thanks China.

Violent crime is not historically low. There is far more nonviolent crime than violent, so when you lump them all together, you smooth out the rapid increase in violence that many jurisdictions are experiencing. Armed carjackings, for example, have gone through the roof.

No violent crime is still historically low.

Look at the numbers over decades not over months.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You could always move to the five states with the highest age-adjusted death rates: Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Oklahoma, and West Virginia. Maybe the folks that are elected there are more to your liking.

Stop being dishonest. Look at the highest MURDER rates, not death rates which include overdoses, accidents, and suicides.

It's dishonest to look at death rates which include overdoses, accidents, and suicides? Overdoses, accidents, and suicides don't contribute to the apocalypse, just homicide does?

But ok, here are the age-adjusted homicide rates.

Mississippi: 23.7 per 100,000 people
Louisiana: 21.3
Alabama: 15.9
New Mexico: 14.3
South Carolina: 13.4
Missouri: 12.4
Illinois: 12.3
Maryland: 12.2
Tennessee: 12.2
Arkansas: 11.7
Georgia: 11.4

Do you have a link for your data, PP? Where do DC, VA, CA and NY fall on the list?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You could always move to the five states with the highest age-adjusted death rates: Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Oklahoma, and West Virginia. Maybe the folks that are elected there are more to your liking.

Stop being dishonest. Look at the highest MURDER rates, not death rates which include overdoses, accidents, and suicides.

It's dishonest to look at death rates which include overdoses, accidents, and suicides? Overdoses, accidents, and suicides don't contribute to the apocalypse, just homicide does?

But ok, here are the age-adjusted homicide rates.

Mississippi: 23.7 per 100,000 people
Louisiana: 21.3
Alabama: 15.9
New Mexico: 14.3
South Carolina: 13.4
Missouri: 12.4
Illinois: 12.3
Maryland: 12.2
Tennessee: 12.2
Arkansas: 11.7
Georgia: 11.4

Do you have a link for your data, PP? Where do DC, VA, CA and NY fall on the list?

Try Googling: age-adjusted homicide rate