Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think she'll really be in prison for the entire 11 years. I can't imagine her husband waiting for her.

Your point is ?

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She’s a psychopath.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize she got 11 years. That seems pretty long for a non-violent, white collar crime. Meanwhile in DC actual murders get less time.

They want to make an example put of her because she's a woman who flew too close to the sun. See Martha Stewart.

The WeWork guy needs to be in prison. Along with a dozen other tech bros

Exactly. Why are the Neumanns still out and about? So GROSS.

Yup...it is so gross that the harpies on DCUM have so much schaudenfreude about a white woman going to jail.

You don't understand. They're saying her sentence seems harsh, whereas other tech CEOs (men) got away with no prison time AND golden parachute deals, which is unfair to women CEOs

Which ones? Provide links. This sentence is extremely light. She was a total fraud. Her devices gave false HIV results, miscarriage, and cancer diagnosis. When anyone in the field heard her claim they said it was way too little blood being drawn to detect anything.

The SEC charged her with raised 700 million on false claims about her machines and she ended up paying 500k fine. That was all she had to paid.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize she got 11 years. That seems pretty long for a non-violent, white collar crime. Meanwhile in DC actual murders get less time.

They want to make an example put of her because she's a woman who flew too close to the sun. See Martha Stewart.

The WeWork guy needs to be in prison. Along with a dozen other tech bros

If you say so, but I doubt it. Her male co-conspirator received more prison time for the same offenses. It seems that she was given a break because she was a female.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand prison for non violent crimes like fraud, etc. These people don't need to be out of society for the sake of public safety. They need to make restitution. There are so many mandatory public service type sentences that would benefit society and benefit the person, too. This does nothing but ruin her family's life, too. These children have no mother, now. Her parents are devastated. Yes, I believe she had kids because she wouldn't have ɓeen able to later, not to sway the sentence.
I don't need my tax dollars going to this. Let her and so many others non violent offenders do real time in society. Limit their travel, how much they can spend, where they can live, how they live, etc., like so many people on Section 8, SNAP benefits, Medicaid. Let them help in homeless shelters, etc., Make them pay restitution with timeoutside, not serve it in a cell which accomplishes nothing.

I wish I had a say in sentencing all those college pay off parents. I think there were better ideas for them, too. Some people need to see how others live.

I really do feel for this woman. She effed up big time, deserves a sentence, deserves to pay off investors, but what will this accomplish?

Oh yes. Why should rich people be punished. Just let them write a check and be done with it. Poor people should of course spend their time in prison kicked away from
Society. That’s quite a message PP. white collar crime pays. White collar criminals defraud, steal, malign, embezzle, perjure, cheat, blackmail, traffic, launder drug money, and extort without impunity. Simply make sure you are not caught holding a knife while committing your crimes. As long as you can write a check if you get caught, you’re good. Your sentiment PP is so offensive.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand prison for non violent crimes like fraud, etc. These people don't need to be out of society for the sake of public safety. They need to make restitution. There are so many mandatory public service type sentences that would benefit society and benefit the person, too. This does nothing but ruin her family's life, too. These children have no mother, now. Her parents are devastated. Yes, I believe she had kids because she wouldn't have ɓeen able to later, not to sway the sentence.
I don't need my tax dollars going to this. Let her and so many others non violent offenders do real time in society. Limit their travel, how much they can spend, where they can live, how they live, etc., like so many people on Section 8, SNAP benefits, Medicaid. Let them help in homeless shelters, etc., Make them pay restitution with timeoutside, not serve it in a cell which accomplishes nothing.

I wish I had a say in sentencing all those college pay off parents. I think there were better ideas for them, too. Some people need to see how others live.

I really do feel for this woman. She effed up big time, deserves a sentence, deserves to pay off investors, but what will this accomplish?

Criminal behavior deserves prison time as a punishment.

There are more ways to punish someone than prison. Prison is a waste of money especially when people can repay society with service, and, in this case, money.

Well then prison should be considered a waste of money for all prisoners. All criminals should be allowed to simply repay society with service and if the criminal is flush with cash, they can walk away by writing a fat check.

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Anonymous wrote:NPR’s reporting on her today was insane. They introduced the piece with something like “She aimed to revolutionize health care.” She did no such thing. The product was a fraud from the first day to the last. She aimed to bilk investors and purchasers. The end.

And she caused "regular people" real harm. It was not just her VC rich guy investors that she defrauded. She defrauded the public. She deployed the device in pharmacies! She had a deal with Walgreens. And it was ALL PRETEND!! The device never worked. Real people went to a pharmacy to get blood work, they were given faulty results. How many people do you think spent loads of money to get the correct results? People could have died with mis-diagnosis. And she KNEW it fake. That's the entire point.

People seem to think she just did some money crimes. It was way beyond that and absolutely horrific. She buried anyone who tried to blow the whistle. A reasearcher on her staff killed himself from the pressure. She ruined lives. She deserves prison.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think she'll really be in prison for the entire 11 years. I can't imagine her husband waiting for her.

Your point is ?

Agree. She’s appealing. She is in prison during the appeal.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand prison for non violent crimes like fraud, etc. These people don't need to be out of society for the sake of public safety. They need to make restitution. There are so many mandatory public service type sentences that would benefit society and benefit the person, too. This does nothing but ruin her family's life, too. These children have no mother, now. Her parents are devastated. Yes, I believe she had kids because she wouldn't have ɓeen able to later, not to sway the sentence.
I don't need my tax dollars going to this. Let her and so many others non violent offenders do real time in society. Limit their travel, how much they can spend, where they can live, how they live, etc., like so many people on Section 8, SNAP benefits, Medicaid. Let them help in homeless shelters, etc., Make them pay restitution with timeoutside, not serve it in a cell which accomplishes nothing.

I wish I had a say in sentencing all those college pay off parents. I think there were better ideas for them, too. Some people need to see how others live.

I really do feel for this woman. She effed up big time, deserves a sentence, deserves to pay off investors, but what will this accomplish?

Criminal behavior deserves prison time as a punishment.

There are more ways to punish someone than prison. Prison is a waste of money especially when people can repay society with service, and, in this case, money.

Well then prison should be considered a waste of money for all prisoners. All criminals should be allowed to simply repay society with service and if the criminal is flush with cash, they can walk away by writing a fat check.

+1 Prison should just be for poor people

[Anonymous]

The ironic thing is, I’m pretty sure that what she was trying to do with the blood tests will actually come to pass in the next 10-15 years. The technology wasn’t there yet but it will be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ironic thing is, I’m pretty sure that what she was trying to do with the blood tests will actually come to pass in the next 10-15 years. The technology wasn’t there yet but it will be.

It's not only the testing she was fraudulent about. She wanted it in that tiny little device. Even if they figure out the testing, it won't be some kiosk at Walgreens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize she got 11 years. That seems pretty long for a non-violent, white collar crime. Meanwhile in DC actual murders get less time.

They want to make an example put of her because she's a woman who flew too close to the sun. See Martha Stewart.

The WeWork guy needs to be in prison. Along with a dozen other tech bros

If you say so, but I doubt it. Her male co-conspirator received more prison time for the same offenses. It seems that she was given a break because she was a female.

White well connected females usually do not service prison time. They are treated at more lenient by the legal system. The system views women as innocent victims. Look at Holmes defense. She was controlled and manipulated by a man.

This difference in sentencing is very noticeable with teachers who have sex with kids but it applies a cross the legal system.

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Anonymous wrote:The ironic thing is, I’m pretty sure that what she was trying to do with the blood tests will actually come to pass in the next 10-15 years. The technology wasn’t there yet but it will be.

No. This is not true. It’s a physical limit thing. The small amount of blood drawn by Holmes(a finger pick) is not large enough to actually capture what is in the blood. She was just making things up.

[Anonymous]

Fun fact: a chef I worked with in college became the head of food services at that prison back in the '90's. I wonder if he is still there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NPR’s reporting on her today was insane. They introduced the piece with something like “She aimed to revolutionize health care.” She did no such thing. The product was a fraud from the first day to the last. She aimed to bilk investors and purchasers. The end.

And she caused "regular people" real harm. It was not just her VC rich guy investors that she defrauded. She defrauded the public. She deployed the device in pharmacies! She had a deal with Walgreens. And it was ALL PRETEND!! The device never worked. Real people went to a pharmacy to get blood work, they were given faulty results. How many people do you think spent loads of money to get the correct results? People could have died with mis-diagnosis. And she KNEW it fake. That's the entire point.

People seem to think she just did some money crimes. It was way beyond that and absolutely horrific. She buried anyone who tried to blow the whistle. A reasearcher on her staff killed himself from the pressure. She ruined lives. She deserves prison.

She was drawing blood and using existing machine by other companies to do the analysis. It was just a con.