Systemic bias against Asian-Americans in schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you've described a school that selects URMs. That's not anti-AAPI bias.

Fwiw, there a number of AAPI students in FCPS of different backgrounds and some are high achieving and others are average. Don't have all the same concerns.

It is biased if the selection is not based on merit.

Who defines what is merit? In NVA we had a selection process to TJ which was supposed to be merit but turns out about half the kids had access to the exam questions from having attended expensive outside prep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Asian sentiment by some posters is disgusting. It's even more disgusting because they seem to have no clue how racist they are being.

A lot of Asians are very racist.

A lot of <insert race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation> are <insert prejudice>. Bigotry is bad, and fetishizing race or other category traits is a prime cause—maybe the cause. The internet loves categories.

+1 do we need to remind people about the antisemitic undercurrent in the black community?

My Asian friend's DC plays HS basketball on a team with a lot of white/Asian kids. They were playing against a mostly Hispanic team, and the Hispanic team players were mocking the Asian players with racist slanty eye comments. The coaches and refs did nothing to stop it.

Pro affirmative action people always say how some organization should be representative of the community. Well, here we have a community of many Asian American students, but the higher ups don't want the leadership to reflect the community. If the kids were mostly URM, then I'm sure you'd all be singing a different tune.

Racism is alive and well against Asian Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at a school with a significant percentage of Asian-American students but mostly white teachers. We've noticed over the past year that when teachers have a choice to choose students for leadership positions such as for panels, if they have a request from an outside entity for students to speak with, student hosts for assemblies, or for leaders for class project they are not selecting AAPI students. It's really striking and when parents first brought this up to us I was skeptical but then we saw it happen again and again. They will choose students from other minority groups who comprise only a small percentage of students at the school so it is not all white students who are being chosen.

We moved to the area from California where we were at a school with a similar percentage of AAPI students and did not see this issue. What is going on? Is it just gross stereotyping that AAPI students are not good leaders or speakers? Are we just at a terrible school?

You are overthinking this. I’m so tired of these flimsy, racist threads.

It's a popular topic with right-wing astroturfers. They feel they can sew grievance among AAPI voters with these false narratives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread hasn’t been too bad, but anyone who doubts the existence of anti-Asian racism just needs to spend some time in the AAP forum. It can get shockingly explicit there.

Of course there’s anti-Asian racism there’s also racism among the Asian community. I have a friend from China who came here at age 11. The whole extended family is here. She told me that the rest of her family would not let their children be friends with White kids because of the possibility of bad influences.

So Asians deserve to be underrepresented in their schools? How is this story relevant to the topic of the thread?

If a kid isn’t allowed to interact socially with some of the kids in a group, that kid is a poor choice to lead the group. That’s how it’s relevant.

Sounds like you’re stereotyping all AAPI based on an experience with one Chinese family. Then you’re using that stereotype to justify the bias against AAPI as leaders.

You said the point wasn’t relevant. It’s relevant. And I didn’t say all AAPI kids should be denied leadership roles on that basis. Reread my comment. I said that any child (of any race) who is unwilling to interact socially with his peers (for any reason) is a poor choice to lead those same peers. That’s obviously true. It may or may not be what’s going on at OP’s school. I have no way of knowing that, and neither do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread hasn’t been too bad, but anyone who doubts the existence of anti-Asian racism just needs to spend some time in the AAP forum. It can get shockingly explicit there.

Of course there’s anti-Asian racism there’s also racism among the Asian community. I have a friend from China who came here at age 11. The whole extended family is here. She told me that the rest of her family would not let their children be friends with White kids because of the possibility of bad influences.

So Asians deserve to be underrepresented in their schools? How is this story relevant to the topic of the thread?

If a kid isn’t allowed to interact socially with some of the kids in a group, that kid is a poor choice to lead the group. That’s how it’s relevant.

Sounds like you’re stereotyping all AAPI based on an experience with one Chinese family. Then you’re using that stereotype to justify the bias against AAPI as leaders.

You said the point wasn’t relevant. It’s relevant. And I didn’t say all AAPI kids should be denied leadership roles on that basis. Reread my comment. I said that any child (of any race) who is unwilling to interact socially with his peers (for any reason) is a poor choice to lead those same peers. That’s obviously true. It may or may not be what’s going on at OP’s school. I have no way of knowing that, and neither do you.

So you think, just based off of one interaction with a Chinese family you happened to know, you extrapolate that all Asians in a school community must take the same stance?

[Anonymous]

I am sure they will be fine though. Where I live Asians flock to good schools, previously majority white, make up the majority of the school and hog the key positions as much as they can. Do you think they think about any other race or ethnicity? Ha!
And before you label me racist I am part Asian, just not from a typical diaspora and lived in a majority white communities and kind of pass for white (because of the way I look). I am privy to some Asian conversations though.

Each and every group will always try to occupy as many key positions as possible if circumstances permit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at a school with a significant percentage of Asian-American students but mostly white teachers. We've noticed over the past year that when teachers have a choice to choose students for leadership positions such as for panels, if they have a request from an outside entity for students to speak with, student hosts for assemblies, or for leaders for class project they are not selecting AAPI students. It's really striking and when parents first brought this up to us I was skeptical but then we saw it happen again and again. They will choose students from other minority groups who comprise only a small percentage of students at the school so it is not all white students who are being chosen.

We moved to the area from California where we were at a school with a similar percentage of AAPI students and did not see this issue. What is going on? Is it just gross stereotyping that AAPI students are not good leaders or speakers? Are we just at a terrible school?

You are overthinking this. I’m so tired of these flimsy, racist threads.

It's a popular topic with right-wing astroturfers. They feel they can sew grievance among AAPI voters with these false narratives.

That’s a weird framing. Sounds like you want to ignore Asian Americans sharing their lived experiences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are at a school with a significant percentage of Asian-American students but mostly white teachers. We've noticed over the past year that when teachers have a choice to choose students for leadership positions such as for panels, if they have a request from an outside entity for students to speak with, student hosts for assemblies, or for leaders for class project they are not selecting AAPI students. It's really striking and when parents first brought this up to us I was skeptical but then we saw it happen again and again. They will choose students from other minority groups who comprise only a small percentage of students at the school so it is not all white students who are being chosen.

We moved to the area from California where we were at a school with a similar percentage of AAPI students and did not see this issue. What is going on? Is it just gross stereotyping that AAPI students are not good leaders or speakers? Are we just at a terrible school?

Ahem...have you asked those students whether they want to become teachers when they grow up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at a school with a significant percentage of Asian-American students but mostly white teachers. We've noticed over the past year that when teachers have a choice to choose students for leadership positions such as for panels, if they have a request from an outside entity for students to speak with, student hosts for assemblies, or for leaders for class project they are not selecting AAPI students. It's really striking and when parents first brought this up to us I was skeptical but then we saw it happen again and again. They will choose students from other minority groups who comprise only a small percentage of students at the school so it is not all white students who are being chosen.

We moved to the area from California where we were at a school with a similar percentage of AAPI students and did not see this issue. What is going on? Is it just gross stereotyping that AAPI students are not good leaders or speakers? Are we just at a terrible school?

Ahem...have you asked those students whether they want to become teachers when they grow up?

Are you saying we should expect white teachers to be biased against AAPI students? We shouldn’t try to hold them accountable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at a school with a significant percentage of Asian-American students but mostly white teachers. We've noticed over the past year that when teachers have a choice to choose students for leadership positions such as for panels, if they have a request from an outside entity for students to speak with, student hosts for assemblies, or for leaders for class project they are not selecting AAPI students. It's really striking and when parents first brought this up to us I was skeptical but then we saw it happen again and again. They will choose students from other minority groups who comprise only a small percentage of students at the school so it is not all white students who are being chosen.

We moved to the area from California where we were at a school with a similar percentage of AAPI students and did not see this issue. What is going on? Is it just gross stereotyping that AAPI students are not good leaders or speakers? Are we just at a terrible school?

Ahem...have you asked those students whether they want to become teachers when they grow up?

Of course not! And if OP's DC wanted to be a teacher, she would steer her strongly away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Asian sentiment by some posters is disgusting. It's even more disgusting because they seem to have no clue how racist they are being.

A lot of Asians are very racist.

A lot of <insert race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation> are <insert prejudice>. Bigotry is bad, and fetishizing race or other category traits is a prime cause—maybe the cause. The internet loves categories.

+1 do we need to remind people about the antisemitic undercurrent in the black community?

My Asian friend's DC plays HS basketball on a team with a lot of white/Asian kids. They were playing against a mostly Hispanic team, and the Hispanic team players were mocking the Asian players with racist slanty eye comments. The coaches and refs did nothing to stop it.

Pro affirmative action people always say how some organization should be representative of the community. Well, here we have a community of many Asian American students, but the higher ups don't want the leadership to reflect the community. If the kids were mostly URM, then I'm sure you'd all be singing a different tune.

Racism is alive and well against Asian Americans.

Keep voting for racism, and you'll get more of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Asian sentiment by some posters is disgusting. It's even more disgusting because they seem to have no clue how racist they are being.

A lot of Asians are very racist.

A lot of <insert race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation> are <insert prejudice>. Bigotry is bad, and fetishizing race or other category traits is a prime cause—maybe the cause. The internet loves categories.

+1 do we need to remind people about the antisemitic undercurrent in the black community?

My Asian friend's DC plays HS basketball on a team with a lot of white/Asian kids. They were playing against a mostly Hispanic team, and the Hispanic team players were mocking the Asian players with racist slanty eye comments. The coaches and refs did nothing to stop it.

Pro affirmative action people always say how some organization should be representative of the community. Well, here we have a community of many Asian American students, but the higher ups don't want the leadership to reflect the community. If the kids were mostly URM, then I'm sure you'd all be singing a different tune.

Racism is alive and well against Asian Americans.

Keep voting for racism, and you'll get more of it.

Can’t tell if you’re asking the PP to vote D or R.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Asian sentiment by some posters is disgusting. It's even more disgusting because they seem to have no clue how racist they are being.

A lot of Asians are very racist.

A lot of <insert race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation> are <insert prejudice>. Bigotry is bad, and fetishizing race or other category traits is a prime cause—maybe the cause. The internet loves categories.

+1 do we need to remind people about the antisemitic undercurrent in the black community?

My Asian friend's DC plays HS basketball on a team with a lot of white/Asian kids. They were playing against a mostly Hispanic team, and the Hispanic team players were mocking the Asian players with racist slanty eye comments. The coaches and refs did nothing to stop it.

Pro affirmative action people always say how some organization should be representative of the community. Well, here we have a community of many Asian American students, but the higher ups don't want the leadership to reflect the community. If the kids were mostly URM, then I'm sure you'd all be singing a different tune.

Racism is alive and well against Asian Americans.

Keep voting for racism, and you'll get more of it.

Can’t tell if you’re asking the PP to vote D or R.

Neither. I'm just asking PP to consider the implications of his/ her own voting, whatever it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anti-Asian sentiment by some posters is disgusting. It's even more disgusting because they seem to have no clue how racist they are being.

A lot of Asians are very racist.

A lot of <insert race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation> are <insert prejudice>. Bigotry is bad, and fetishizing race or other category traits is a prime cause—maybe the cause. The internet loves categories.

+1 do we need to remind people about the antisemitic undercurrent in the black community?

My Asian friend's DC plays HS basketball on a team with a lot of white/Asian kids. They were playing against a mostly Hispanic team, and the Hispanic team players were mocking the Asian players with racist slanty eye comments. The coaches and refs did nothing to stop it.

Pro affirmative action people always say how some organization should be representative of the community. Well, here we have a community of many Asian American students, but the higher ups don't want the leadership to reflect the community. If the kids were mostly URM, then I'm sure you'd all be singing a different tune.

Racism is alive and well against Asian Americans.

Keep voting for racism, and you'll get more of it.

Can’t tell if you’re asking the PP to vote D or R.

Neither. I'm just asking PP to consider the implications of his/ her own voting, whatever it is.

NP
Meaning both D and R are racist so whichever they vote or the country leans towards, Asians will have to put up with systemic bias?
I actually agree with you there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at a school with a significant percentage of Asian-American students but mostly white teachers. We've noticed over the past year that when teachers have a choice to choose students for leadership positions such as for panels, if they have a request from an outside entity for students to speak with, student hosts for assemblies, or for leaders for class project they are not selecting AAPI students. It's really striking and when parents first brought this up to us I was skeptical but then we saw it happen again and again. They will choose students from other minority groups who comprise only a small percentage of students at the school so it is not all white students who are being chosen.

We moved to the area from California where we were at a school with a similar percentage of AAPI students and did not see this issue. What is going on? Is it just gross stereotyping that AAPI students are not good leaders or speakers? Are we just at a terrible school?

You are overthinking this. I’m so tired of these flimsy, racist threads.

It's a popular topic with right-wing astroturfers. They feel they can sew grievance among AAPI voters with these false narratives.

That’s a weird framing. Sounds like you want to ignore Asian Americans sharing their lived experiences.

Doesn't want them voting for Republicans, but also doesn't want Democrats to stop discriminating against Asians.